Moderators? More like onesiderators...

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Harrimon Hoxx

Harrimon Hoxx
cmdr awesome said:
I'm no supporter of the OP, but that's the most stalky, baity and disrespectful post I've seen from a mod.
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I'd say it was playful rather than disrespectful. Just a reminder that you can't fire off and think no-one heard the shots just because the cops didn't come a-running at the time.

I would say well done to the Mods for not locking the thread when they could easily have done so and defended their actions by saying the OP broke some form of forum rules (who knows them all anyway? I'm here to read about Elite and see people's opinions, not to read a rule book.....if only we had some form of moderation to keep us within the boundaries of decency).
 

JeffRyan

JeffRyan
Threads like this amuse me. I don't always agree with the mods closing some threads and letting others stay open. (And that has little to do with FD criticism, just other things). They're simple, flawed human beings. And considering their many many personal shortcomings (I'm thinking of TJ in particular) they do a fantastic job.
 

Toscaner

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seems to me the OP reads a different forum..

omg as soon as the game releases this forum will drown in tears and of course "contructive criticism" by "professional gaming analysts"
 

jabokai

jabokai
Jenner said:
People are welcome to hate on the game or defend the game as long as it's done in a civil manner and is respectful of the forum rules and fellow posters.
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The FD defence squad are adept at getting critical threads closed down by taking the argument in circular directions, posting off topic "humour" and actually calling for the thread to be closed... Seen way too many threads of that kind closed with a "I think this thread has run it's course" comment and strangely, never seen any big-up FD threads closed with the same comments.

JeffRyan said:
Threads like this amuse me. I don't always agree with the mods closing some threads and letting others stay open. (And that has little to do with FD criticism, just other things). They're simple, flawed human beings. And considering their many many personal shortcomings (I'm thinking of TJ in particular) they do a fantastic job.
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TJ is an exemplar of forum mods and Brett C does a lot of good behind the scenes work. Geraldine was awesome too... That's pretty much all the comments I can write without getting an infraction. :)
 

Faerie

Faerie
cmdr awesome said:
I'm no supporter of the OP, but that's the most stalky, baity and disrespectful post I've seen from a mod.
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I think you're determined to be offended. Modding a forum can be enormous fun but it does demand a lot of commitment & time that could be spent with your family, climbing a mountain, or a million other things.
Try not to forget that mods are (approximately) human too. Let them have their fun. ;)
 

Wolf

Wolf
1. This thread is still open. Point made. ;)

2. There is a lot of work done by mods that does not show on forums. Not everything involves a post that can be seen by normal users.
I can imagine, that with over 50.000 users and new users joining by the hundreds, being a mod here could easily turn into a full-time job without ever writing a single post. As far as I know, they need to approve new users posts as spam-counter-measure (Don't remember how it was when I joined)
And then there are the reports. Each and every one of them has to be read and processed. And I expect a forum of this size has a lot of reports. Many may be false alarms the nature of "User A said something that displeases me", but that does not make it less work.
So I would not jump to the conclusion a mod is not doing anything, just because I don't see any posts of them.

Even if I also think I would have ruled differently in some cases of moderation: keep up the good work and kudos for taking the job in the first place!
 
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Siggi

Siggi
Faerie said:
I think you're determined to be offended. Modding a forum can be enormous fun but it does demand a lot of commitment & time that could be spent with your family, climbing a mountain, or a million other things.
Try not to forget that mods are (approximately) human too. Let them have their fun. ;)
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And if it didn't give them pleasure to do it they wouldn't do it. So let's do away with the 'heroic sacrifice', if we may.
 
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Iskariot

Iskariot
philtor said:
Seriously. They'll let anything stay on the forums as long as it's in defense of fdev, and will delete out even constructive negative. It's sad really. Still have high hopes for the game, but I'm done with this silly rose tinted forum. It's a joke.
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Nonsense. You obviously have not been reading a lot on the forums. There are many, very critical threads on here.
But it depends on your attitude and the way you phrase things. Some people have a very negative, non-constructive, highly poisoness attitude.
Critique is always welcome if you want to constructively contribute without poisoning the well.
 

Faerie

Faerie
Siggi said:
And if it didn't give them pleasure to do it they wouldn't do it. So let's do away with the 'heroic sacrifice', if we may.
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As a former long-time mod on many forums I wouldn't call it pleasure so much as satisfaction in a job well done, nor is it any kind of "heroic sacrifice" - you do it because you want to help, but you can usually hand over the reins to others when you have other commitments or are simply in need of a rest.
All the same, it doesn't make it any less of a commitment & time sink because you have to be reliable. An unreliable mod just makes things harder for the others.
 
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Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
Siggi said:
And if it didn't give them pleasure to do it they wouldn't do it. So let's do away with the 'heroic sacrifice', if we may.
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It may simply be a role that is satisfying to the person performing it as they know that it needs to be done. That does not mean to say that is it pleasurable.
 
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flint read

flint read
well this post has been here most of the week now so i guess the OP is just straight out wrong!

also the amount of antagonistic ans totally whining threads this week is proof that they are not being biased against criticism maybe they just closed a thread on you for a valid reason? and you simply don't like it i don't know but hey you certainly cant accuse them of censorship in favour of Frontier after what I've been seeing this week, so what exactly is your point im confused?

better luck next time bud :D
 

Zieman

Zieman
Siggi said:
And if it didn't give them pleasure to do it they wouldn't do it. So let's do away with the 'heroic sacrifice', if we may.
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On how many forums are you a moderator?

Being a moderator is really a chore if you try to do it decently. And most of the time you just get flak from morons who don't grasp the difference between shouting obscenities and constructive criticism.
 
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flint read

flint read
Zieman said:
On how many forums are you a moderator?

Being a moderator is really a chore if you try to do it decently. And most of the time you just get flak from morons who don't grasp the difference between shouting obscenities and constructive criticism.
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exactly i have moderated quite a few forums and it is hard work if you do it well and (not saying this is necesarily the Op's type) you will often get an astounding range of just plain abuse from some posters, it's as if they can hide behind some made up name and there for not be held responsible for being a jerk to people all the time.

If you want to say it you best make sure you really really mean it try using your actual name and i can respect it more i may not agree but at least i will feel you have the courage of your convictions when you get insulting (again for clarity not aimed at the OP i have no way of knowing what caused the infraction) but im confident the mod action was reasonable for the circumstances.

i made a comment in a thread a while back and it could when read back be taken the wrong way and set a bad example the mods simply engaged with me let me explain and we had a good natured chat about it no harm done.

this is why i suspect your posting that got taken down probably deserved it try re writing it from a more cool headed space and see if it stays, would be my suggestion.
 
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JeffRyan

JeffRyan
cmdr awesome said:
I'm no supporter of the OP, but that's the most stalky, baity and disrespectful post I've seen from a mod.
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Ha ha! Dude, they responded to a blatantly hostile post about their own VOLUNTEER job with humour. I don't know if I'd have done the same.
 
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Dr Zachary Smith

Dr Zachary Smith
It's not the mods so much as the odd fool who takes offence and decides to flag a post for whatever reason, bringing even the slightest hint of negativity to the attention of said "moderators", I would think, since they don't really have the time to baby sit every thread, but yeh it can get a bit stuffy round here, I foresee alternative ED forums flourishing in the future as a result :)

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Corwyn said:
Besides, who's definition of a "constructive negative" are we going by? The moderators have rules they're required to follow for doing their jobs, they don't do things arbitrarily.
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Yes they do it is within their remit do delete a post or give you the opportunity to edit...
 
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