More information for Crime & Punishment in ODYSEEY needed

Rob Galaxy

Rob Galaxy
Bruce G said:
Greetings Commanders,

Thank you all for your comments and feedback on the recent announcement regarding Odyssey and Horizons compatibility. We understand that the post left some aspects unclear which we'd like to address below. We've also included some additional details.


Crime
  • When playing ED: Odyssey after playing ED: Horizons:
    • Crimes on players’ ships will be transferred to their commander, superpower bounties will be generated accordingly
  • When playing ED: Horizons after having played ED: Odyssey:
    • Crimes committed in the vessel will stay with the vessel, and superpower bounties for vessels will be regenerated
    • Crimes committed on foot will be transferred on vessel with biggest bounty for specific jurisdiction, or to active vessel if no other way
    • Impounded ships will be released, but the impound cost will be added to the bounty for that vessel
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In topic (see above) Bruce told a bit about Crimes. But the system in ODYSEEY should be explained more in detail.

Regarding the transfer of the ships crimes to the commander in ODYSEEY leads to following question:
Are fines and bounties now in ODYSEEY always applied to the commander?
If this should be the case, I wonder.
Because meanwhile I earned several fines and bounties and two of them were applied to the ship I used as I commited a crime.
May be more than two, but I registered these two fines only as I changed ships.
And I could not see these in my transactions panel in ship and not on foot via INsight.

Another question:
Is in ODYSEEY a difference if the crime happens on foot or happens with the ship?

Next question is, what is a crime in ODYSSEY? Because following is confusing:
I plunder an abandoned settlement. The settlement stays green or orange, anything is good.
I plunder another abandoned settlement. The settlement goes red and hostile to me.
Atm I have no clue what was the difference here. What triggers that some settlements become hostile?
 
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nexusreject

nexusreject
Crime & punishment like many things in Odyssey is broken. Somehow FDev think that a painful 20-30 minute game loop over 200cr fine is more immersive than ship interiors. Trying to find answers on the system of crime & punishment within the game when Frontier has innumerable problems due to corporate governance on their premature arrival that had a 3 year gestation period is laughable.
 

Rudi Raumkraut

Rudi Raumkraut
Rob Galaxy said:
In topic (see above) Bruce told a bit about Crimes. But the system in ODYSEEY should be explained more in detail.

Regarding the transfer of the ships crimes to the commander in ODYSEEY leads to following question:
Are fines and bounties now in ODYSEEY always applied to the commander?
If this should be the case, I wonder.
Because meanwhile I earned several fines and bounties and two of them were applied to the ship I used as I commited a crime.
May be more than two, but I registered these two fines only as I changed ships.
And I could not see these in my transactions panel in ship and not on foot via INsight.

Another question:
Is in ODYSEEY a difference if the crime happens on foot or happens with the ship?

Next question is, what is a crime in ODYSSEY? Because following is confusing:
I plunder an abandoned settlement. The settlement stays green or orange, anything is good.
I plunder another abandoned settlement. The settlement goes red and hostile to me.
Atm I have no clue what was the difference here. What triggers that some settlements become hostile?
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I noticed that it sometimes need a relog to menu to make fines visible at an IF so they can be paid off
 

Shir

Shir
I wonder how that will work. Have a 3.2 billion bounty on my BGS Corvette right now in Horizons.. will my commander be wanted for that amount if I get Odyssey? That's insane, to change the rules of the game like that all of a sudden..
 

Rudi Raumkraut

Rudi Raumkraut
Shir said:
I wonder how that will work. Have a 3.2 billion bounty on my BGS Corvette right now in Horizons.. will my commander be wanted for that amount if I get Odyssey? That's insane, to change the rules of the game like that all of a sudden..
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well, to get a 3.2bln bounty you had to "bend" the rules yourself quite a while, so it shouldnt come "all of a sudden" ;)
and yes, should use Horizons to clear them before the big merge :)
 

Shir

Shir
But in horizons you don't need to clear them, and it's not bending the rules, it's enjoying the game. At one point my Bgs Corvette got shot by the Atr and I had to pay 1.2 billion bounty. That was fine.

But still I can do all gameplay styles with my other ships, and that's the only reason I engineered this Corvette and started playing bgs in the first place, amounting to this huge bounty. (I play in independent systems so no superpower problems).

If Frontier changes the rules and all of a sudden I'm in 3 billion debt... I think such a drastic change should come with a bounty reset. Again because they did change the rules saying it's ok to play this way (originally bounties were on a Commander so you wouldn't do major crime), now they change them again. Typical of course of a company that doesn't understand how people play their games at depth..
 
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