haha, I best leave then.
My first 2h open play after 100h solo
- Thread starter Knightshark
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haha, I best leave then.
What about fun ? Why always think about incentive to go play open like if FD needed to beg you ? Why not just pure FUN.
Fun of being interdicted and having interaction with other players
Fun because you know you could've explode but you didnt...you managed to escape with a big smile.
Fun seing all those Npcs stacking up in the hangar door and all getting blown up to bits.
Fun because a player tried to ram you but you avoided it.....And he crashed into the Conda behind you.
Fun helping a newcomer in its sidewinder trying make some money and end up spending hours with him doing crazy stuff.
Fun has been forgotten by too many of you.
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Red Cypher
Banned
The irony in this last sentence is amazing.
Solo's too boring... but when things get exciting and challenging, it's too much and it's because of stupid children seeking a GTA experience.
Just because dev said something doesn't mean you have to immideatly agree with him. My personal opinion is that people with "psychopathic tendencies" only make the game worse. Not pirates, but people who do things simply because they can.
No that makes you a Psychopath... and Psychopaths AND Psychopathic behaviour are a VALID part of the gameplay as has been mentioned by the developers, you even get Psychopathic NPC's!!!
GRIEFING is if said player in the Asp would continue killing the same player in the Lakon over and over whenever that player saw the other player in the game
GRIEFING would be if the player ramming also continued to ram the same player when he/she respawned from inside the station over and over and over...
If the Sidewinder went to ANOTHER point and the Anaconda followed the sidewinder and continued to kill all the sidewinders targets and hyperjumping with the sidewinder time and time again then yes that could be considered GRIEFING
The reference point from alpha WAS the fact the GUY BLOWING THE SIDEYS UP WAS DOING IT TO THE SAME GROUP OF PLAYERS EVERY TIME THEY EMERGED FROM THE SLOT ERGO THE SAME PLAYERS OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!!
As for the rest of your statement the mechanics. and indeed as has been mentioned about the DEVS saying as much, Psychotic behaviour is supported as valid gameplay, repeated psychotic behaviour on one individual by another can be avoided using the IN GAME TOOLS such as you BLOCKING PLAYERS to reduce the chances of them being in your instance etc...
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Welcome to online gaming, how may I help you?
The "advantage" to trading in open is doing it with some players around that might attack you. If you are trading to just make the maximum money then you are probably better off hiding in solo to do it. Some people don't find that very fun.
Great post, I wish more of these cry "griefer" people would read this. You really can't grief in this game.
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Troll la lol la lol..
Had to fix a few things here.
None of this is griefing. Oh and those war mechanics you are mentioned are in fact used as you might put it to grief whole corp's in high sec. Griefing is a form of online harassment meant to target a individual or group of individuals for the purpose of causing that person/peoples mental anguish.
Here are some valid examples of griefing.
1. Someone is following you around bombarding your comm's with unacceptable rude comments.
2. Someone using outside means to contact you out of game, this was a "thing" in Eve, some people would contact the employers of some players in opposing corp's and in some cases even stalked them.
3. Someone is using a exploit known or otherwise to deny you access to a section of the game meant to be available to everyone at all times.
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Online gameing you say? I played wow for 3 years, and there you could go to low level zones and kill as many people as you like without consequence. Or untill someone your level showed up. Yes you could do that, yet people i played with never actually did it. And we all pretty much thought that it was lame and stupid. So no, welcome to being a psychopath. Because i personally don't have any desire to ram anyone, or kill without a purpose.
There is this thing called balance. The "fun" of open must be balanced by the "not fun" parts. If the balance is too heavy to "not fun" side (different to each person), then one will not choose open, because there's no incentive.
You (not you, but in general) want more traders for pirates? Make them come by offering double or even triple trading profit in the open!
You want bounty hunters to hunt human pirates? Make PvP bounties bigger AND harder to clean so the pirates actually worth something (say 24 hours minimum before bounties can start being cleared, at a rate of 1 bounty per day).
Make the carrot tastier!
Oh, another thing. People still complain etc. because they still care about the game. If they gave up they leave and the most you will hear from them is the bitter goodbye post (mostly you will hear nothing tho). Yes you can't please everyone, but if many gave up, I don't think the "tough as nails bootcamp sergeant hardcore" guys are enough to sustain this thing in the long run.
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even the fanboys have to admit, as it currently stands, entering open in anything but a full-A-fit flavor of the month setup ship is asking to be repeatedly killed on site by every other player who IS using the aforementioned ships. And there is no reason for traders to eb in open period unless they are either A) in love with losing money everytime they undock, or B) trading in an area so underpopulated they may as well be in solo anyways.
currently, if a player wants meaningful and not crap "player itneraction/pvp" theyd be better off in EVE. because right now there is near 0 punishment for the "pvp'er" and ALL the risk for the "victim". And as long as that situation exists, open play will be little but a combat arena version of elite that slowly hemorrhages players until the game as a whole begins to suffer.
currently, if a player wants meaningful and not crap "player itneraction/pvp" theyd be better off in EVE. because right now there is near 0 punishment for the "pvp'er" and ALL the risk for the "victim". And as long as that situation exists, open play will be little but a combat arena version of elite that slowly hemorrhages players until the game as a whole begins to suffer.
ShadowGar
Banned
OP's explanation of events shows the game is working fine.
To bad he left dock and ignored his surroundings. If this is what everyone is doing, blindly flying around carrying expensive cargo without being cautious, maybe I need to start hunting at docks instead of in Supercruise XD
When things like this happen, it puts a smile on my face. Seeing someone get ripped out of their past gameplay experiences of being catered to in themeparks and thrown into a sandbox kicking and screaming is nice to watch.
To bad he left dock and ignored his surroundings. If this is what everyone is doing, blindly flying around carrying expensive cargo without being cautious, maybe I need to start hunting at docks instead of in Supercruise XD
When things like this happen, it puts a smile on my face. Seeing someone get ripped out of their past gameplay experiences of being catered to in themeparks and thrown into a sandbox kicking and screaming is nice to watch.
well said! Agreed.. +1
There are still huge chunks of code to go in and or be repaired in this game.
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Can honestly say that I remember the NPC ships in the original game being very good at avoiding colliding with the player.
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Oh and the docking computer worked as well.
what is fun?
also just to clarify something, I have ONLY played OPEN...
I am not a Psychopath, I have engaged with other players in combat and killed and been killed etc...
I trade, mine, bounty hunt, explore, and roleplay and all in all I have a lot of fun...
The game is MEANT TO BE FUN, there are times I have been so frustrated I wanted to "fist the screen" lol but that is also part of the fun if you think about it...
What is the best sort of entertainment really? I know its an individual thing but for me its this..
Something that lets me feel like I have achieved something, but in getting to that achievement there has to have been discoveries, gains, setbacks, emotive moments of highs, lows, mediocrity, humbling and hubris, joy, fear and excitement along the way...
If I can get those things from a game then it has entertained me...
and open play does that for me...
One thing I can say is open play is only as 'boring' as you want to allow it to be...
also just to clarify something, I have ONLY played OPEN...
I am not a Psychopath, I have engaged with other players in combat and killed and been killed etc...
I trade, mine, bounty hunt, explore, and roleplay and all in all I have a lot of fun...
The game is MEANT TO BE FUN, there are times I have been so frustrated I wanted to "fist the screen" lol but that is also part of the fun if you think about it...
What is the best sort of entertainment really? I know its an individual thing but for me its this..
Something that lets me feel like I have achieved something, but in getting to that achievement there has to have been discoveries, gains, setbacks, emotive moments of highs, lows, mediocrity, humbling and hubris, joy, fear and excitement along the way...
If I can get those things from a game then it has entertained me...
and open play does that for me...
One thing I can say is open play is only as 'boring' as you want to allow it to be...
