My first 2h open play after 100h solo

[Knightshark]

I played ~100h solo and had amazing fun. I loved it. Amazing game. Yesterday i started playing open, because everyone said it's much more fun. I had two "encounters" with players.

1. I was bounty hunting at nav point. There was another cmdr, had no bounty on him, i greeted, let him chase his targets. He on the other had had big fun killing mine. Well, it's valid. But no fun.

2. I was in my A grade type 6, had collected 80t of rares in 2h. Just left the station, aligned with the jumppoint, then a sound of engines boosting, big face of an ASP rushing towards me, boom. 80t rares gone, 2h gone, 250kCr insurance gone, 100kCr uncollected bounties, gone, fun gone, amazing feeling about this game gone.


I'm not going to play open anymore [edit: when trading]. Sad, because NPC are lame and generic. When it comes to NPC Elite means nothing, they are all easy kills with a nice viper. But some cmdrs are obviously stupid children seeking the GTA experience. Damn.

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Disclaimer: This post does not claim to provide a representative sample of the overall open-play experience.

Also, the devs are aware of the ramming problem and are working on a solution:

Hello Commanders!

A couple of comments about ramming and griefing to add to the discussion:

Ramming is not something we particularly want to encourage. As a desperate gambit during a combat encounter it's fine ("ramming speed!"), but as a path of least resistance and as a way of bypassing the crime system in my opinion it is undesirable. I guess by this definition it is sliding into exploitation/griefing territory. So we are looking at ways we can address such issues.

One thing we're considering is an update to collision system to limit the ability of smaller (and normally faster, more manoeuvrable) ships to cause damage to larger vessels. We will also investigate ramming crimes around starports. It's worth calling out though that this is quite a tricky issue to solve in a fair manner, so no ETA.

On a related note, when you spool up the FSD to make a hyperspace jump or to enter super cruise you are not locked into a straight flight path until the final five seconds. During this countdown you are also invulnerable, so if you believe yourself to be at risk of being rammed you can manoeuvre until the last moment. It's not a foolproof answer, but it can sometimes help.

 

[Kudach]

I played ~100h solo and had amazing fun. I loved it. Amazing game. Yesterday i started playing open, because everyone said it's much more fun. I had two "encounters" with players.

1. I was bounty hunting at nav point. There was another cmdr, had no bounty on him, i greeted, let him chase his targets. He on the other had had big fun killing mine. Well, it's valid. But no fun.

2. I was in my A grade type 6, had collected 80t of rares in 2h. Just left the station, aligned with the jumppoint, then a sound of engines boosting, big face of an ASP rushing towards me, boom. 80t rares gone, 2h gone, 250kCr insurance gone, 100kCr uncollected bounties, gone, fun gone, amazing feeling about this game gone.


I'm not going to play open anymore. Sad, because NPC are lame and generic. When it comes to NPC Elite means nothing, they are all easy kills with a nice viper. But some cmdrs are obviously stupid children seeking the GTA experience. Damn.

Your problems started when you kept doing rares in a type-6

 

[Knightshark]

Your problems started when you kept doing rares in a type-6

What? Such nonsense.

 

[scoda]

I use to think Trade in Solo, but I trade in Open now... Much more fun and engaging..

 

[Skip Intro]

What station did you get zapped at?

 

[Knightshark]

I just see no advantages of trading in open at this time... Trade in solo and bring combat ships only to open...

Yes, earn money in solo and then bring the big ships to open where you can wreak havok on the community. I'd say, somethings wrong. And ramming is just * up, allows you to kill players for cheap fun without punishment.

 

[Extrasmooth]

It's not really about advantages but more of an gameplay experience issue. If you don't want to be hassled by other players then Solo is they way to go (or Group if you want to do group based PvE). If on the other hand you want to bump into other CMDRs, say hello and then blow them away Open Play is the mode of choice.

 

[CMDR Kolibri]

@Knightshark
Try a private group, e.g. this one: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362 (Mobius PvE)

 

[Martin1956]

I played ~100h solo and had amazing fun. I loved it. Amazing game. Yesterday i started playing open, because everyone said it's much more fun. I had two "encounters" with players.

1. I was bounty hunting at nav point. There was another cmdr, had no bounty on him, i greeted, let him chase his targets. He on the other had had big fun killing mine. Well, it's valid. But no fun.

2. I was in my A grade type 6, had collected 80t of rares in 2h. Just left the station, aligned with the jumppoint, then a sound of engines boosting, big face of an ASP rushing towards me, boom. 80t rares gone, 2h gone, 250kCr insurance gone, 100kCr uncollected bounties, gone, fun gone, amazing feeling about this game gone.


I'm not going to play open anymore. Sad, because NPC are lame and generic. When it comes to NPC Elite means nothing, they are all easy kills with a nice viper. But some cmdrs are obviously stupid children seeking the GTA experience. Damn.

Can and will happen in Solo too, I have been rammed and nearly wiped out by a gert big and very dark Lakon just outside the Space Port.

 

[Knightshark]

What station did you get zapped at?

Lave
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[scoda]

Yes, earn money in solo and then bring the big ships to open where you can wreak havok on the community. I'd say, somethings wrong. And ramming is just * up, allows you to kill players for cheap fun without punishment.

I completely agree with you..

 

[StarTux]

Maybe try private group next, it should still bring in the experiences of other people, but perhaps less of what you don't like. Open is pretty much that, some love it and would have had no issues with the experience you just had and moved on, others, not so much.

 

[Knightshark]

Can and will happen in Solo too, I have been rammed and nearly wiped out by a gert big and very dark Lakon just outside the Space Port.

No that is certainly no true. I way outside of the station 10km+ away in open space. NPCs to not boost into me in these situations.

 

[StarTux]

Yes, earn money in solo and then bring the big ships to open where you can wreak havok on the community. I'd say, somethings wrong. And ramming is just * up, allows you to kill players for cheap fun without punishment.

No way on knowing if that Asp wasn't built up in Open.

 

[Blast Hardcheese]

Yes, earn money in solo and then bring the big ships to open where you can wreak havok on the community. I'd say, somethings wrong. And ramming is just * up, allows you to kill players for cheap fun without punishment.

except that isn't true. Yeah you might have a bigger ship, but you'll still be useless against commanders who have had practice fighting other players. you'll still be likely to be taken out by player driven eagles vipers and cobras.

 

[Jarn]

I just see no advantages of trading in open at this time... Trade in solo and bring combat ships only to open...

I seriously hope they make Open and Solo/Group modes so that you can't transfer credits/ships over. Essentially two commander slots. Roll it in a patch, next time you login you're presented with the option of permanently choosing a mode for your current commander, then you can make another one for Open or Solo/Group.

 

[Knightshark]

@Knightshark
Try a private group, e.g. this one: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362 (Mobius PvE)

Sounds great, thx!

 

[Skip Intro]

I seriously hope they make Open and Solo/Group modes so that you can't transfer credits/ships over. Essentially two commander slots. Roll it in a patch, next time you login you're presented with the option of permanently choosing a mode for your current commander, then you can make another one for Open or Solo/Group.

How about not?

 

[Jarn]

How about not?

You could just play Euro Truck Simulator 2 if you want to haul cargo in a peaceful world.

 

[Dissentient]

It's common sense to never enter open without a combat-geared full-A ship. Otherwise you are just asking for it. And even then, you may encounter a dumbfire-eagle that will kill you with one valley or some suicidal cobra with torpedoes.