Oh man if only we had a thread for that. Oh wait, we do! https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...V-Hotel-California?highlight=hotel+california
Need official PVE mode
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The idea of an "Open PvE mode" is nice and all, but just how would it work?
Are players magically gonna be incapable of damaging each other, as well as clipping through each other?
Might as well let players use the same docking pad if that's the case — then it will be just like an MMORPG, where you can see 50+ players standing inside each other while talking to the same NPC in a bank.
If by nice you mean ridiculous, both for the reason you pointed out and others, I agree.
But hey, that's just my take on it. Nothing against others that want to play that sort of game; I'm just not keen on the notion of letting Open fall into the realm of being the de facto only for PVPers mode.
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Well this is not the beginning anymore...
Before this thread inevitably ends up merging with Hotel California (which given the subject matter, I have no doubt it will), I'd like to remind everyone of a simple fact-
Nature abhors a vacuum. This is how a "power vacuum" originates.
The Mobius PvE group was an eventual response to the lack of a PvE mode for Open when Elite Dangerous was released. If Frontier Developments had included game mechanics that separated the two modes (PvP/PvE) then there would have been no need to introduce a private group that excluded PvP.
The responsibility here does not lie with Mobius, nor the Mobius PvE group itself- it lies exactly where it originated... with Frontier's decision to release the game without a proper C&P/Karma or even basic PvP/PvE flagging mechanics to prevent abuse of players in Open.
That said, until either PvE Open or PvP/PvE flagging mechanics are introduced, Private groups like Mobius are here to stay- might as well grab a straw and suck it up.
Nature abhors a vacuum. This is how a "power vacuum" originates.
The Mobius PvE group was an eventual response to the lack of a PvE mode for Open when Elite Dangerous was released. If Frontier Developments had included game mechanics that separated the two modes (PvP/PvE) then there would have been no need to introduce a private group that excluded PvP.
The responsibility here does not lie with Mobius, nor the Mobius PvE group itself- it lies exactly where it originated... with Frontier's decision to release the game without a proper C&P/Karma or even basic PvP/PvE flagging mechanics to prevent abuse of players in Open.
That said, until either PvE Open or PvP/PvE flagging mechanics are introduced, Private groups like Mobius are here to stay- might as well grab a straw and suck it up.
Mobius is providing a much wanted game mode for a considerable time by now, FD is aware of that no doubt.
If FD had any interest in providing a pve only mode by themselves they would have done so already me thinks.
No matter what you do, open will remain the pvp mode within ED, no karma system will change that unless the penalties become so harsh that certain groups of people will stop playing al together.
And I don't think that's something FD would prefer.
If FD had any interest in providing a pve only mode by themselves they would have done so already me thinks.
No matter what you do, open will remain the pvp mode within ED, no karma system will change that unless the penalties become so harsh that certain groups of people will stop playing al together.
And I don't think that's something FD would prefer.
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Well statistically with the number of player of the game vs the actual number of PVP players, PVP is pretty rare!
Also judging by the screaming from the Mobius community when they get ganked, its certainly meaningful.
Never mind, someone put it way better than I could've, and he knows who he is because he's the only one that received rep from me.
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No, they should come back to open and you and your boys should not have a free hand in every system to impose your version of PVP on the PVE community.
You kill in high security you should be getting a 30 day permit ban from the system.
You kill a cmdr in a high security system you should be getting no insurance for 30 days.
Bring a proper crime and punishment and Open will flourish for PVP and PVE players alike.
Don't trivialize the issue then? Half the responses here aren't exaggerated by any means and are based off observations that players hold inside the game, they just as much as you or anyone else, deserve to be heard on the issue. It's a serious issue because of the fact that there's two different play styles being heard here, but a serious disconnect as to how they interact with each other despite being located on the same server. The problem is that theres no proper PVP/PVE or PVPVE flagging system, and players can willfully run rampant throughout each of the game modes screwing stuff up for people, or whole groups without even being seen.
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I fly lots in Open and I'm not a PvPer, and neither I suspect are loads of the other people I meet and say hi to in Open.
That's almost always the case though. Devs have an idea and make a game from it. Players come to the game, and then want the things which the devs didn't want
What this game is supposed to be about, what Braben might have had as a vision for ED where everyone is in a single shared galaxy, working together or alone, doing CMDR things with the occasional PvP encounter .. is, unfortunately, not what many in the community want; as is clearly evident by a 40,000 strong PvE community focused solely in the Mobius cluster (see what I did there, hehe).
In MMO's it's sensible, good planning and shows consideration of the players needs, to introduce game modes that cater to all kinds of play styles. IMHO, Open PvP and Open PvE should have been the bare minimum of Open selections (perhaps RPPvP and RPPvE if sufficiently desired
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Sounds good to me. [up]
No, I changed my answer when I realized this wasn't going to be the usual Mobius trolling session and more of an actual suggestion. I agree, there should be an official PvE mode, coop, whatever you want to call it.
FDev wouldn't support a usable API for external tools either until the toolmakers went on strike. Once they did, FDev moved quick enough.
We don't impose anything on anyone and are also part of the PvE community. We are just playing under FDevs rules in Open.
We should be heavily rewarded for killing a CMDR in high security system.
Not sure how this thread, or your change of thread title belongs in Suggestions? Unless Frontier Developments has a suggestions forum exclusively for Mobius PvE group? Maybe it should have?
I was suggesting that Mobius pull the plug on his PvE groups, thus helping Frontier Developments see their game for what it is.
By moving my post from General Discussion to Suggestions you have actually altered my post to something that it is not. Please don't do that. Please put my unaltered post back where it belongs. Thank you.
To be clear: the core content of my original post was that Mobius should shut down his private groups. How this could read as a suggestion for Frontier Developments baffles me.
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As Op isn't happy with the current iteration of his thread, it will now be closed.
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