Never First Discovered, But...

[Jenner]

Those firsts Jenner and me picked up tonight in that other thread were only 1200 ly from Shinrarta.

Such a tiny % of the galaxy is tagged,they're everywhere.

That's true! There are obviously still undiscovered systems close to the bubble, although I do admit that most of the nebula I visited were all claimed.

Still, from what I've been told there are plenty of things to put your name on rather near by so long as you strike out in a direction that most others do not.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Quite seriously, I've been on for 13 hours or so, and I'm getting more than a little frustrated.

There is no casual aspect to this game. You have to be time-rich, to play it.

What scares me is that the time commitments, for the non-combat player, are going to drive new customers off.

Elite does not have a new car smell any more. It smells (inside) like every space geek has tried it at least once.

That GenCon/ComicCon smell.


The ship needs a thorough decontam.

I am very casual, twice a week for a few hours and seem to have no issues playing when exploring or doing any other activity. I have a ton of first discovered by as well. What exactly is the issue?

 

[cael]

i went out only 2k ly and had 13 firsts it really is just going to nowhere. a place why would anyone go to then if you keep seeing names go ether above or blow the ring.

 

[Schmack]

The game has to be like it is or it would die a quick death when all was discovered, or when nothing was discovered (resets). If you are just now getting into the game, for example, you'd feel like you dropped into an active environment that was active long before you go there, because things are already labeled as being discovered. However if you travel some, you get to be the one to stamp that celestial body with the knowledge that anyone who passes through will say "him again". That has some draw to it. Imagine getting into the game and nothing is discovered. There would be no novelty to it, because all the 1st comers are discovering everything they scan. You'd have to get in after a year or so to get the feeling that you're finding hidden gems. It seems that's what this game is about now, especially exploring - finding those rarities that make the trip worth it, and not just visually. Someday a system you discovered might become inhabited.

I can go just 1K outside the bubble and find undiscovered systems. Once you find one, you can try in each direction from that one with an economic route and likely find a path of undiscovered systems that has been ignored due to fastest route or even economy from a more common point which shifts the system LY span just enough to have all new materials.

 

[etien]

Well, I did the ruins quest run ( got the 210m, I am probably one of the last lucky one ), followed the well published walk through on Reddit, so I guess I did follow one of the most heavily trafiqued road, on the way back and forth, I found around 20 non registered planets ( including some nice mineral rich ) and a couple of stars, so I can say there is still plenty around, used a non optimized aspx ( range in the 34 ) so maybe that's why. You seem very unlucky

 

[Vasious]

I've gone up and down the Z axis, 8's around a point, random walks determined by dice, alternating economic routes with random jumps...

Nothing compares with the guys stealing nebula's from each other, on the outer spiral arms. They must have low berths, or something, to alter personal time perception.

I don't drink, so I cannot resort to that solace.

1%'/rs, enjoy your dominance, You. Have. Won.



Nyet, my good Lizard. Because it requires human lifetimes to accomplish. Count every grain of sand in the Sahara, the 1% guys will never admit all the good stuff has been taken.

I am doing the Guardians mission with a friend and there have been heaps of systems complete uncharged, including Terraformable water worlds and that is still with 1000 light years of Sol.

*edit*
reading the later posts by you I regret replying, nice attitude, wonderful person...

 

[cheesenbiscuits]

If you go out far enough it's all undiscovered.
At Sag A*,one of the most popular destinations,due to the star density,there are vast swathes of undiscovered systems.

 

[Factabulous]

Currently out in Skaudai doing an area search for Ancient Ruins and there are an annoying number of undiscovered systems - each new one adds to the number of systems I have to search (First world problems!)

Anyway OP: You do know you have a Frame Shift Drive (FSD) and can leave the starter system - right (Good look on your first discovery!)

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

At 800+ lightyears in any direction but going directly to a galactic POI, space is completely undiscovered. Maybe you win the jackpot and find an already discovered one sometimes out in the black. I did roughly 50.000 scans in the last 30 months... guess how many times my name is on the map... and it is never a problem to find completely undiscovered space. On my last tour, i scanned 132 undiscovered neutron stars, only 5 jumps away from the galactic core and there are thousands more... You just have to look. It is that easy.

Maybe this will help you

1 - equip a detailed surface scanner, or no name will be appearing, even if you are first
2 - go out further than a handful of lightyears (you can reach any point in the galaxy within 16 hours of flight)
3 - go out there as an explorer (be curious, take detours, keep an eye on the map, fly with a full tank)

Good luck and Godspeed!

o7

 

[Hadarmil]

You want guaranteed 99% firsts 400ly from the the bubble, guaranteed?

Filter your route to red dwarfs.

Sure, most are nothing but icy bodies and the occasional gas giant. But it's real easy finding the nice stuff and people almost always just ignore them but if there's any terraformables you can just park while scopping and point your nose at anything interesting - everything is in scanning range.

And they make up 70% of stars in the galaxy, so even right next to the bubble there's tons of undiscovered ones.

 

[Stigbob]

I got a first discovered about 700 ly from the bubble day before yesterday, whilst on the way back in from a splurge of first discoveries about 1700 ly out. I only had a look at the system map as I was refueling from near empty.

This method works for me, but I'm an amateur.

Pick a direction away from anything that looks like a point of interest then pick an angle up or down from the bubble and set a bookmark about 900 ly out, go to it and set another one a similar distance (you can do khan and only move in 2d now), start checking for undiscovered stuff at about 1500 ly. If you see anything already discovered jump another couple of hundred ly at a random angle away from the bubble and look again. Beyond 2000 ly most jumps will be first discoveries unless you are near something people gravitate towards.

Once you've found a place no-one else has been to scan everything you want and then bookmark your furthest point before heading back. When you head back rearrange your midway bookmarks so you use a different route. If you go on another expedition pick up from your furthest bookmark, and move the partway bookmarks again so you visit different systems whilst traveling.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Dunno...

Often enough, I found out the good stuff isn't far away. In fact, it often was very close by. Always was.

So instead of honking until my ears bleed over xxxxx LY, I hop a mere few dozen LY away - and voila, undiscovered Systems. A dime a dozen.
I'd rather do that than chase distant Nebulae, only to find out I'm "Tourist #42 - checkin at the nearby Hotel please, right across the street".

 

[Zenith]

It's about personal goals IMO.
OP has a personal goal to get a "First discovered by..." tag on a system relatively close to the bubble. Simply due to the number of players and over 2.5 years of time, most systems within 2000ly are already discovered.

Now you could set yourself a goal to get a tag on a "named" star, that is one with a proper name or star catalogue designation. I'm happy that I've got my name on some HD and HIP and believe me, there are still a fair number available to find.

Or set yourself a goal to get out to a given star cluster and fully scan all the systems that make up the cluster. I can name 4 NGC star clusters that aren't surveyed or otherwise scanned properly. Right now I'm roughly halfway through scanning 120 or so systems in an NGC star cluster. Someone has scanned most of the stars, and the occasional water world or interesting planet, but they left the rest of the system unmapped. I'm scanning every body for both myself and for EDSM.

Without personal goals, exploration can get samey quite quickly.

 

[Tarman]

Help, we finally ran out of planetary bodies to discover!

*looks at all the OTHER galaxies on the map besides the Milky Way even if that were a realistic statement

Oh wait >____>

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Help, we finally ran out of planetary bodies to discover!

*looks at all the OTHER galaxies on the map besides the Milky Way even if that were a realistic statement

Oh wait >____>

Good Nyborg, man.

I got a first discovered about 700 ly from the bubble day before yesterday, whilst on the way back in from a splurge of first discoveries about 1700 ly out. I only had a look at the system map as I was refueling from near empty.

This method works for me, but I'm an amateur.

Pick a direction away from anything that looks like a point of interest then pick an angle up or down from the bubble and set a bookmark about 900 ly out, go to it and set another one a similar distance (you can do khan and only move in 2d now), start checking for undiscovered stuff at about 1500 ly. If you see anything already discovered jump another couple of hundred ly at a random angle away from the bubble and look again. Beyond 2000 ly most jumps will be first discoveries unless you are near something people gravitate towards.

Once you've found a place no-one else has been to scan everything you want and then bookmark your furthest point before heading back. When you head back rearrange your midway bookmarks so you use a different route. If you go on another expedition pick up from your furthest bookmark, and move the partway bookmarks again so you visit different systems whilst traveling.

Tried that. You really have to go 5K out+, before you get a chance.

That is not fair to new players.

 

[Uncoupledlight9]

I only discovered my first planet maybe a month or so ago and it was near the LBN 623 Nebula about 600ly out.

This week I ventured out to the Jellyfish Nebula skirting around Barnard's Loop/Horsehead Nebula and I was surprised to find 10's of completely unclaimed systems just beyond this. I scanned a few, but it got to the point where I just honked and scooped otherwise it would have taken forever to get to my destination.

 

[AJW]

Tried that. You really have to go 5K out+, before you get a chance.

That is not fair to new players.

Ok, to be fair to new players, there will be a complete wipe of everything (discoveries, credits, ships...), once a week.

Happy?

 

[Ralph Vargr]

I scanned a few, but it got to the point where I just honked and scooped otherwise it would have taken forever to get to my destination.

You have just named Elite's public shame. Grind.

Ok, to be fair to new players, there will be a complete wipe of everything (discoveries, credits, ships...), once a week.

Happy?

Yes, thank you.

 

[Stigbob]

Tried that. You really have to go 5K out+, before you get a chance.

5000 is either an exaggeration or you are sticking to very very straight lines between obvious destinations, you need to get a bit random with it.

I'm not telling you were I go but it's less than half that.

That is not fair to new players.

New players have the huge advantage of engineered FSD's and remote stations scattered between the bubble and Colonia, even if they did have to travel 5000 ly it would only take a couple of hours.

 

[Cmdr Esteban]

...you can do khan and only move in 2d now.

I've given you too much rep for your informative player-blocking posts. Otherwise it would be another +1 for this gem, and particularly for the obscure Spock reference to Khan's flawed tactics in the Battle of the Mutara Nebula: "He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking". Kirk command response: "All stop. Z minus 10,000 metres."