New Fusion Game?

I know only one zoo here in the area that has a small roller coaster (serengeti park, hodenhagen). It stands a little further away from the animals.
Roller coasters always make noise and for my taste they don't belong in a zoo, there are amusement parks for that.
When i go to a zoo, I want to see animals and not ride a roller coaster.
For me, the highest of emotions is a children's carousel, maybe a theater or a small circus. (for me the trasport rides are already too much, I've never built one of them)
I don't even like petting zoos, I like to look at the farm animals, but I don't think it's okay that anything and everyone can touch them.
Roller coasters in zoos are just not what I imagine a zoo game to be.

From me definitely a "No, please not!"
 
I've never been to a zoo with rides other than carousels, boats, wheels or transport rides. However, I'm dying to go to Disney's Animal Kingdom.

So while I wouldn't mind being able to mix both games, I think it's better to focus on the zoo side for the upcoming DLCs. Maybe if support continues for several years, they could add some coasters after many more animals have already been added.
 
I don't think they can do it with two preexisting games, but if they ever opt to make planet aquarium they could totally make it fuseable with PZ
 
Leaf - I did ask in another topic discussion - but are you still tinkering with a train Mod - or another transport option?

Would be great and make the game even more epic.
Hi GGG! Thanks for asking - I was able to work with GiornoPizza to basically unlock a ton of hidden mechanics behind all five transportation types. You can download PlanetZoo+ to find them out, but they include and are not limited to:

-Multiple Leveled Boats, meaning they can go up and down, and when they go down they splash. Pretty cool stuff!
-All transport rides can invert or turn up to 180 degrees, allowing for loops, banked curves, and more
-All transport rides can have as short as 5 meter segments up to 50m~
-All transport rides can be placed anywhere and can go through anything, allowing for closer scenery interaction
-All transport rides have larger speed limits up to 100~mph

Let me know if you need a link to it - I’d be happy to send it to you.

Anyways, back to the topic at hand.

I feel like you guys don’t understand the fact that zoos are an entertainment complex when you look at it. They’ve made long strides since their origins of sideshow circuses and have included a lot more aspects of animal welfare, education, and more, but they’re still entertainment facilities.

For a business to run, it’s important to have a constant source for money to be made. Animals are EXTREMELY expensive after all, and caring for them up to AZA standards is moreso. Seeing this, two of my favorite parks - Animal Kingdom and ZooTampa have opted for a hybrid model that touches upon theme parks. They incorporate a variety of Flat Rides, Tracked Rides, and Coasters which enhance the guest experience, usually costs more money, and just generally being a lot cooler than the rest. And they have the PINNACLE of animal care standards out there. So no, the argument of “Only bad zoos have rides” doesn’t necessarily work here.

Plus, in terms of noise, we already have an ingame system that would work well for this. We have the staff building negative effects on guests, so the same can be done for animals and coasters in terms of noise. Granted, I will say that junior coasters aren’t that loud, so it would be probably the most beneficial type to include. (I will say this argument doesn’t really hold up since we can’t mute the train, and you can hear it across an entire damn park)

Heck, if you have a problem with “coasters”, there’s a shank-ton of other types of rides that’ve been included in zoos as well. Log flumes, river rapids, carousels, pirate ships, and more. All of which already have code within the game that I have seen with my very own eyes. I can’t post it here, but I’d be more than happy to show someone if they request it. So then, the argument thay this would take a ton of time away from developers is also negated, it’s just connecting the dots at that point, and I can guarantee it would be an insane addition to have that would get a ton more people into the game. And again, animal developers are not ride developers. This would hardly take a day for someone who is trained by Frontier to accomplish. The only reason why we haven’t done it yet is because our home-made backend tools can’t accomplish this. Meanwhile, Frontier with their developmental assets can.

Again, not sure why I can’t ask for something without being chewed out at all angles. I come to provide a hopeful expectation of what I hope to get out of a game so that I can improve my parks within AZA standards. It’s awfully childish to say “You can’t have that. That will take away from my animals!” when I have explained that it isn’t the case. If anything, this will take away from more scenery which I understand a majority of the players on the forums would rather have an animal pack - which I’d be happy with. I understand what I’m asking for doesn’t necessarily fit within the European Zoo standard, but it’s an American / Australian thing that I feel could be tastefully done and bring homage to Frontier’s sandbox predecessor.
 
It’s awfully childish to say “You can’t have that. That will take away from my animals!”
I could be wrong I suppose, but I haven’t seen anybody say ‘you can’t have that’ just ‘I don’t want that’. Feel free to say you want whatever you want but others are perfectly within their rights to say they don’t want it.

I understand what I’m asking for doesn’t necessarily fit within the European Zoo standard, but it’s an American / Australian thing that I feel could be tastefully done and bring homage to Frontier’s sandbox predecessor.
It’s not an Australian thing either….

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TBH I don’t see how the addition of coasters/flumes etc. could be ‘tastefully’ done - I’ve never seen them done tastefully in any context, let alone a zoo.)
 
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Maybe this is really an American thing, which I, as a European, cannot understand.
But that's not particularly bad either.
For me, a zoo simply stands for something different than you Leaf, and that's okay too.
For me, a zoo is a place of calm, where I can go for a walk the whole day and observe animals, you want to have fun. That is also completely ok.

Most of the zoos that I know are treated like cultural institutions, like a theater or a public bath, they are financed with donations, taxes and the income. Using tax money to build a roller coaster, um ... that should be explained to the population, a roller coaster is not a cultural asset.

And everyone is allowed to write what they like and what not, that is part of the freedom of expression.
Nobody is here against something you would like and nobody is here against you. I understand your intuition in the game and I like your humor and I really enjoy your viedeos on yt. But please don't always take everything personally, nobody is against you here!
Everyone is welcome to write here, a forum lives from different opinions, points of view and discussions.
 
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I would not like to see coasters per se, but some different styles of the current rides would be a blessing. An old fashioned cableway, without the weird futuristic orbs and the metal frames would be excellent, as would a jeep ride with an actual driver and without the trails!

Also, those small mini-train-bus hybrids (not sure what is the actual word for them) that are so common in zoos, I would love.
 
WP2 had dlc called Crazy Zoo which connected zoo and theme park into one thing. In my opinion the best dlc concept any zoo game ever got. It had not only animals, but also many interesting guest atractions, for example:
  • shark diving
  • kangaroo boxing
  • playgrounds for kids
  • new rides: jeeps, helicopters, boats and animal rides (elephants and camels)
  • crazy decorations and unique shops
I agree with leaf that frontier one time could add new guest attractions instead of building pieces in dlc.
 
Animals are EXTREMELY expensive after all, and caring for them up to AZA standards is moreso.

That's an interesting point of view.
Do you think keeping animals is more expensive than buying, building, operating and maintaing coasters/rides up to TÜV standards and their surroundings on an annual basis? (taken into account it varies per ride of course).

I think it's more expensive to have rides, than animals if you ask me.
 
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Again, not sure why I can’t ask for something without being chewed out at all angles.
Literally nobody has done this. This is a discussion forum - people say what they want, and sometimes people disagree with those ideas. That's just the way it works. Just because it seems more people disagree with you than agree with you doesn't mean it's "gatekeeping" (I don't actually think you know what that means), it just means that the idea isn't going to be popular on this particular medium.
 
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