New huge supergiant discovered in a cluster of 26 supergiants

777Driver

777Driver
Not sure if it's a sim engine limitation, or because UY Scuti is highly unlikely to still exist in 33xx. Either way, I doubt we are seeing any new supergiants in game.

None of these stars are likely to exist in reality, UY Scuti is well on it's way to a core collapse.
 

Vikestart

Vikestart
777Driver said:
Not sure if it's a sim engine limitation, or because UY Scuti is highly unlikely to still exist in 33xx. Either way, I doubt we are seeing any new supergiants in game.

None of these stars are likely to exist in reality, UY Scuti is well on it's way to a core collapse.
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Not less likely than Betelgeuse, which is ingame. Betelgeuse is expected to go supernova anytime now. It might already have.
 

Vandaahl

Vandaahl
They dont even know exactly where YV Scuti is. In the '70s it was derived it was around 9k ly (+/- 1000 ly) away, in 2018 this was reduced to about 5k ly and it luminosity was changed as well. Funny that this new one is compared to that one.

And, as always:
However, astronomers need more observations done as we don’t have more data about Stephenson 2-18.
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varonica

varonica
ZAKALWEINC8876 said:
Are they not Masters of the (Elite) Universe then? They need the poweeeer.
🙃 o7
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No they aren't, the stellar forge generates the galaxy, they have some ability to edit stars and planets but this is limited by the way the stellar forge works.

Vikestart said:
Maybe not, but perhaps they could find an already existing star approximately where the star should be, and adjust its properties. Would be good enough.
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No they can't, the existing star needs to be the same mass as the star they want to insert, this has been discussed and explained extensively by FDEV, you can't just add and remove mass from the galaxy, it has to come from somewhere, and you can't just take it from around the location because that will cause problems with the galaxy model. So no they can't just shove stars in or change them. They managed to add Trappist 1 because there was a star of the correct mass in roughly the correct location, but if this new star is indeed as large as claimed then they aren't going to have the mass available for it.
 

Vasious

Vasious

pnellesen

pnellesen
Another question from curiosity: how is "Known Universe" defined? Given the incomprehensibly huge number of stars in the Universe, what would give astronomers the confidence to say that a star in our backyard (more or less) is the largest in the "known universe"?
 

Vasious

Vasious
pnellesen said:
Another question from curiosity: how is "Known Universe" defined? Given the incomprehensibly huge number of stars in the Universe, what would give astronomers the confidence to say that a star in our backyard (more or less) is the largest in the "known universe"?
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Of the Observable universe, the part of it was know enough about to make confident statements about traits we can measure?

Ie, it is the biggest star we know of, to date.
 

varonica

varonica
pnellesen said:
Another question from curiosity: how is "Known Universe" defined? Given the incomprehensibly huge number of stars in the Universe, what would give astronomers the confidence to say that a star in our backyard (more or less) is the largest in the "known universe"?
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Physics can give us some answers, it's possible there is an upper limit to star size and mass of stars before they spontaneously collapse into a black hole. It would depend on radius, the composition of the star and the surface temperature from which we can deduce the core temperature, that way we can determine whether or not the outward pressure at the core is high enough to stop the star collapsing in on itself. So it may be this star is at that limit and there may be none larger by enough mass to differentiate.

Of course physics has been wrong in some details before and strange things do happen, but there are still some laws you can't avoid, and gravity is a pretty big one!
 

Sasquatch_Punter

S
I don't really understand why they can't add stars to the galaxy. If they already added real stars in specific locations, independent of the Stellar Forge generation algorithm, why is it impossible to add more? The placement of systems around the bubble isn't governed by any procedural system afaik. They're read in from a stellar catalogue and fixed in a coordinate position on the galaxy map.
 

znôrt

znôrt
varonica said:
No they can't, the existing star needs to be the same mass as the star they want to insert, this has been discussed and explained extensively by FDEV,
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don't know what explanation that would be. if it is the talk on stellar forge ... the addition of hand made items shouldn't be a problem even if it created inconsistencies in some parameters. you wouldn't really need to actually balance the mass in the affected cube, just pick a reasonably suited object and tweak it's parameters exceptionally. after all the distribution of mass is just a simplified and artbitrary representation in itself used precisely to simulate a galaxy. sacrificing that just for the consistence of an arbitrary system simply defeats its purpose.

they can add ad hoc items, that's actually one selling point of their procedural system. dunno if they are immediately in position as is right now to change a star but that should be pretty trivial to address if they wanted to, anyway unrelated to stellar forge and its inner workings.
 
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