New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)

Players can get together and do this if someone raises the rabble enough. Considering that people went to the effort of spamming personal twitter accounts of FDev employees, I'd say it's a possibility.
 
It doesn't matter WHO the investors are. The point is, investors, CEOs, and managers cause the problem, together, through the unreasonable pressures placed on everyone else to meet the wealth generation schedules set forth by investors. Profit is the primary purpose of your company, not art.
 
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It doesn't matter WHO the investors are. The point it, investors, CEOs, and managers cause the problem, together, through the unreasonable pressures placed on everyone else to meet the wealth generation schedules set forth by investors. Profit is the primary purpose of your company, not art.
while this is all grossly OT, you clearly are not a holder of any sort of investment instruments. i've got news for you: investors do not "set forth" "wealth generation schedules" (whatever that's even supposed to be).
 
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Not sure what I'm seeing. Or what I'm not seeing.
 
while this is all grossly OT, you clearly are not a holder of any sort of investment instruments. i've got news for you: investors do not "set forth" "wealth generation schedules" (whatever that's even supposed to be).
This is entirely on topic, friend, and explains the root of the problem we see here today, and in many other examples of failed product releases.

Actually, I was the holder of numerous 'financial instruments' at the turn of the century, and I cashed out of every one of those instruments and never looked back. I learned a few things, fortunately through research and observation instead of my own bankruptcies, and I understood the markets for what they are decades ago.

You sound like a fan of financial instruments, lol. You know, those mysterious, intangible yet tangible instruments that let you not work and still gain wealth?
 
Players can get together and do this if someone raises the rabble enough. Considering that people went to the effort of spamming personal twitter accounts of FDev employees, I'd say it's a possibility.

steam's only problem with the current rating is that there are way too many positive reviews for odyssey.

suggesting people should pay full price for an early access level beta riddled with bugs, connection issues and performance problems that span every way to play the game is not being honest. and if you can't recommend others buy it, it shouldn't be marked positive.
 
The irony here is that Frontier once sued GameTek for forcing them to publish Frontier: First Encounters before it was ready.
Now they've just gone and done just that to themselves - forcing themselves to release before it was ready!

Given it was David Braben who was behind the suing of GameTek, it's a real surprise he hasn't remembered this lesson.
IIRC the story at the time was that Gametek sent the wrong build to press. Given that the internet was not a valid distribution method back then, this meant actually getting the physical disks burned and duplicated. By the time the mistake was realised, it was far to late to do anything about it.
 
Actually, I was the holder of numerous 'financial instruments' at the turn of the century, and I cashed out of every one of those instruments and never looked back.

Because you were burned by buying high and selling low? (Nearly anyone who cashed out at the start of the century was selling low or had been gambling with dotcom stocks and got burned).
 
Tenuem is just trolling... best not to engage.
As one of my favorite authors says (translated from the original french): "I have felt in my very blood, ever since I was born, a most unconquerable hatred towards the whole tribe of fools, and it arises from the fact that I feel myself a fool whenever I am in their company."
Bien dit!
 
It's not an opinion if repeating patterns exist on Wyrd 2B, so no we can't disagree on this point.

You are actually saying that there is only the possibility that you are "right" and we can´t disagree because you are "right" and there is no way around it?

Nice.

Why do I care so much about this planet? Well because it's the point of contention? Most importantly of all this is happening FAR more frequently than you seem to realise.

This again and again and again? It is no contention point as there is no repeating patterns in that SPECIFIC example which just so happens to be the one you posted.But even if there were, let me phrase it again for you. Copy & Paste: The issue is happening randomly across the board and has been reported.

Yes, well you're being rude telling me I'm imagining things:

"Yes, indeed it is my opinion that you are suffering from a case of "wishful seeing" and "pareidolia""

You are not "imagining" things, it is called pareidolia. It is not rude but rather it is a very real condition.


Others and myself will continue this discussion.

"Others and myself" you say...you actually single yourself out like that?

You know, the others can very well continue their discussion without having you ramming your opinion down their throats?

But in the case you do want to have a "discussion" then here is a friendly non-rude advice: In a discussion, expect others to disagree and your view of things to not be the all-truth. Since you mentioned yourself: "It's not an opinion if repeating patterns exist on Wyrd 2B, so no we can't disagree on this point.".

The Steam entry for Odyssey is review bombed with some things patently untrue, probably picked from the forums. Would not be surprised if it was arranged.

Hey, careful with what you say...they might come for you now.

Tenuem is just trolling... best not to engage.
As one of my favorite authors says (translated from the original french): "I have felt in my very blood, ever since I was born, a most unconquerable hatred towards the whole tribe of fools, and it arises from the fact that I feel myself a fool whenever I am in their company."

Ah, but this is excellent. That having an opposite view than others and "discussing" it on a "discussion forum" is to be dubbed "trolling".

But go for it, alas, I have seen it all so far. I will echo a fellow "troll":

Hello, I am called a White Knight, Apologist, and have even had a poster suggest I have a mental health issue... I imagine a lot of the posters here have read a post or two of mine in the recent past...


I appreciate the quote though, here is one of my favourite for the exchange:

""If sheep do not have the constant care of a shepherd, they will go the wrong way, unaware of the dangers at hand. They have been known to nibble themselves right off the side of a mountain..... And so, because sheep are sheep, they need shepherds to care for them. The welfare of sheep depends solely upon the care they get from their shepherd. Therefore, the better the shepherd, the healthier the sheep." ~ Kay Arthur"
 
For what it's worth, (just hearsay as i have no proof to back this up with) i had a passing chat with a player who is a real exploration buff in ED for years now, and he tells me that although the copy-paste thing does happen on some planets it's by no means all, and that he's found some pretty funky and unique geographical features, including one giant mountain he hadn't seen anywhere else. Frankly, it gives me quite a bit of hope for future improvements, and you can look at my past posts, they are mostly alarmed and concerned with this issue so i'm certainly not 'white-knighting', as much as i dislike that term.
 
For what it's worth, (just hearsay as i have no proof to back this up with) i had a passing chat with a player who is a real exploration buff in ED for years now, and he tells me that although the copy-paste thing does happen on some planets it's by no means all, and that he's found some pretty funky and unique geographical features, including one giant mountain he hadn't seen anywhere else. Frankly, it gives me quite a bit of hope for future improvements, and you can look at my past posts, they are mostly alarmed and concerned with this issue so i'm certainly not 'white-knighting', as much as i dislike that term.
The issue is not to find stuff. It's how rare it is. Most planet, in my experience, are very similar to each other. In their own category ofc. Did you see the OP's video ? It's more than just the repetitive pattern.
You either have the flat desert with a few big rock/mountain. The tiny valley, or the weird canyon that are everywhere (like a dessicated ground patch, but planet sized).

As for the ground, it's a lot of that very bland "fine dust/snow" looking texture. Sure, color changes, white, beige, grey, but it all feel the same. The ground also have a bad case of "military camo" look in many places I've been to. It's just not natural.

In horizon, landscape is more varied. Ground texture feels better to.
 
For what it's worth, (just hearsay as i have no proof to back this up with) i had a passing chat with a player who is a real exploration buff in ED for years now, and he tells me that although the copy-paste thing does happen on some planets it's by no means all, and that he's found some pretty funky and unique geographical features, including one giant mountain he hadn't seen anywhere else. Frankly, it gives me quite a bit of hope for future improvements, and you can look at my past posts, they are mostly alarmed and concerned with this issue so i'm certainly not 'white-knighting', as much as i dislike that term.
Don't worry, nobody says you are "white knighting" here :) I think a lot of people here said, that it does not affect every planet, by far. It's just that it's really easy to find planets that have these tilings.
 
I appreciate the quote though, here is one of my favourite for the exchange:
I was laughing when I wrote my post, and also when I have just read your own! Excellent!

The best person to ridicule is oneself, no-one can take umbrage at it ;)

Incidentally: I used to have 5 pet sheep - they lived long and healthy lives as mobile grass cutters (and fertiliser spreaders) - they can recognise different humans, and would all vacate to their 'shed' whenever the vet came calling, or the shearer...
 
For what it's worth, (just hearsay as i have no proof to back this up with) i had a passing chat with a player who is a real exploration buff in ED for years now, and he tells me that although the copy-paste thing does happen on some planets it's by no means all, and that he's found some pretty funky and unique geographical features, including one giant mountain he hadn't seen anywhere else. Frankly, it gives me quite a bit of hope for future improvements, and you can look at my past posts, they are mostly alarmed and concerned with this issue so i'm certainly not 'white-knighting', as much as i dislike that term.
I'm really starting to think it is the old Horizons planets that are hit most. The few patterns I saw today were all on airless worlds. But ofc it is all conjecture and we have to wait and see if it changes. At least on the networking side things improved except a few interesting hiccups, but we managed to visit 5 POIs as a team with only one desync.
 
The planets look a lot more natural than
For what it's worth, (just hearsay as i have no proof to back this up with) i had a passing chat with a player who is a real exploration buff in ED for years now, and he tells me that although the copy-paste thing does happen on some planets it's by no means all, and that he's found some pretty funky and unique geographical features, including one giant mountain he hadn't seen anywhere else. Frankly, it gives me quite a bit of hope for future improvements, and you can look at my past posts, they are mostly alarmed and concerned with this issue so i'm certainly not 'white-knighting', as much as i dislike that term.
I'd say the actual planet generation is wildly better than it used to be, but it has oddities and weirdness that can be fixed.

I'd also say there is NOTHING WRONG with using premade elements if they're more natural-looking than procedural generation. Procedural generation isn't some magic tool that suits all situations. Not all phenomena are best replicated with mathematical noise.

Use copy-and-pasting by all means. The important thing is that we shouldn't notice the game doing it!
 
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