I've done lots of planet exploration and even on my 960 it looks great. Issues with some textures, yes. Poor fps, yes. But broken? (as per the actual definition of it not working at all?) Absolutely not.
New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)
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I've done lots of planet exploration and even on my 960 it looks great. Issues with some textures, yes. Poor fps, yes. But broken? (as per the actual definition of it not working at all?) Absolutely not.
I didn't go out of my way either, i wasn't even looking for them, i was doing tons of missions, collecting stuff from bases and did many other things.
Just normal gameplay behaviour. Didn't even spent 1 minute to "search" for them.
Theese patterns are simply literally everywhere, there is zero need to search for them at all.
The new updated planetary tech for EDO is imo a huge step backwards compared to Horizon and it will take years to get on par with Horizon.
Including other issues like the UI and performance and quite a lot of minor and major bugs.
All this was fine before with Horizon.
When did we gamers actually get that far to accept a alpha version as full release?
This is just really sad.
I have never expected anything else from FD.
If someone is surprised by the way Odyssey launched,
probably hasn't done his homework.
If you want to play a polished and finished game, don't preorder from a company,
that always need months to make their new releases/updates/expansions work more or less as indented,
and even then it's arguable if that's what their customers wanted.
I do NOT defend FD, what they do is wrong on many levels.
I am just a bit amused by all this drama,
because everything about this release is the usual business for FD and customers who remember.
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I've now looked at 20 Rocky/HMC planets (10 in the bubble, 10 at 13,000 Ly, non-atmospheric) and ALL have very obvious repeating terrain tiles, at various scales from orbit to ground level. So it's a 100% hit rate so far over a sample size that's becoming statistically significant.
And having done all of that, I'm not letting it go to waste. FDev, please note, here's a few more examples. Each of the following is in a single system (my home system in fact) but each is from a different planet.
And finally this last one was way outside the bubble but too interesting not to show. I haven't highlighted anything because it's difficult to find a distinct terrain formation that's not repeated.
I present to you, the FDev Count-The-Repeaters mini game!
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ps. I also like this last one because it shows that at a cursory glance there appears to be no issue. It even looks good! I assume this is why many people are fine with Odyssey (and fair enough). But spend more than a few seconds/minutes and you'll probably find a dozen repeating formations or more.
And having done all of that, I'm not letting it go to waste. FDev, please note, here's a few more examples. Each of the following is in a single system (my home system in fact) but each is from a different planet.
And finally this last one was way outside the bubble but too interesting not to show. I haven't highlighted anything because it's difficult to find a distinct terrain formation that's not repeated.
I present to you, the FDev Count-The-Repeaters mini game!
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ps. I also like this last one because it shows that at a cursory glance there appears to be no issue. It even looks good! I assume this is why many people are fine with Odyssey (and fair enough). But spend more than a few seconds/minutes and you'll probably find a dozen repeating formations or more.
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Thanks, all of this i see in pretty much every system again and again.
And i hope people realize the most obvious one too, huge impact crater cough.
I cant agree, the planets looks great and hopefully better when they sort the issues out with it. People (already) have this rose tinted view of Horizons that all the planets looked great and they all had amazing mountains etc, when they didnt. There were loads of utterly boring planets out there with crappy little rocks on them that sent your srv flying. There were long standing issues with it not loading in textures (the dreaded black squares) and speckled repeating textures from altitude. That's not to say it couldnt look stunning and Odyssey doesn't need work, but as with Horizons it will take time to sort it out.
bro·ken | \ ˈbrō-kən \
Definition of broken
1: violently separated into parts : SHATTEREDbroken windows
2: damaged or altered by or as if by breaking (see BREAK entry 1): such as
a: having undergone or been subjected to fracture
a broken leg
b: not working properly
a broken camera
I'm clearly not paying enough attention as ive not seen one repeated pattern yet even though they obviously exist
Maybe it's like those magic poster things, once you see it, you cant unsee it?
That's a honest warning: If you don't see them yet, leave as long as you still can.I'm clearly not paying enough attention as ive not seen one repeated pattern yet even though they obviously exist
Yes once it has been seen, it can not be unseen
bro·ken | \ ˈbrō-kən \
Definition of broken
1: violently separated into parts : SHATTERED
broken windows
2: damaged or altered by or as if by breaking (see BREAK entry 1): such as
a: having undergone or been subjected to fracture
a broken leg
b: not working properly
a broken camera
Fair point, but people use the word as if it is unplayable because it's not working period, not because parts of it aren't working properly.
No doubt others are having 'real issues' in playing this game expansion - I acknowledge that without any hesitation.
It isn't going to prevent me from enjoying my recreation - there is nothing I can do to change their situation, is there?
There is a "thing" about "properly" though:
bro·ken | \ ˈbrō-kən \
Definition of broken
1: violently separated into parts : SHATTERED
broken windows
2: damaged or altered by or as if by breaking (see BREAK entry 1): such as
a: having undergone or been subjected to fracture
a broken leg
b: not working properly
a broken camera
It's defined as correctly or satisfactorily.
And I suppose FD's definition of "working correctly" in this case is something else then most of us expect...
Yup, it's like you can't enjoy your favorite restaurant any more after you've seen the kitchen.I'm clearly not paying enough attention as ive not seen one repeated pattern yet even though they obviously exist
Correctly is not necessarily satisfactorily - depends always on the viewpoint.
That's a honest warning: If you don't see them yet, leave as long as you still can.
Yes once it has been seen, it can not be unseen
I'd hope that for whatever reason:
a) there's many more of them, that currently arent being used for whatever reason.
b) they are used more sparingly on planets so it's not obvious they are being used.
As others have said the human eye can be good as spotting these.
It would be disappointing if we end up seeing these forever and a day (well, other people not me!)
Are there no videos from graphic designers where they are rotating and moving planetary patterns to prove according to scientific methodology they are indeed identical yet?I'm clearly not paying enough attention as ive not seen one repeated pattern yet even though they obviously exist
I am asking seriously, if there are not, community became as lazy and sloppy as FD
I think it's a bug or just missing ones and they will increase the assets in the next weeks.I'd hope that for whatever reason:
a) there's many more of them, that currently arent being used for whatever reason.
b) they are used more sparingly on planets so it's not obvious they are being used.
As others have said the human eye can be good as spotting these.
It would be disappointing if we end up seeing these forever and a day (well, other people not me!)
True, not all planets and moons looked great in Horizon.
Also, not all planets and moons in EDO just look bad, i have never said that, there are indeed some pretty ones.
But if i compare everything between Horizon and EDO, for now atleast, Horizon clearly is the winner.
Now, can they improve it overtime? I guess so, yes.
But what saddens me is that atleast the next 12-24 month of development time is wasted on just fixing and improving a lot of things that were working fine before, for the most part, with Horizon.
And again, i can only repeat it, it is even more sad that we gamers now accept alpha full releases because devs may or may not fix it in a year or two...
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I have no problem in which in the generation of planets that are when? 400 million?
there are textures in patterns.
obviously we are going to find repetitions, the problem is the confirmation bias of people who are already angry and will not get out of there because they already see patterns everywhere like someone looking at a burned pixel on a screen. I will never stop seeing him.
there are textures in patterns.
obviously we are going to find repetitions, the problem is the confirmation bias of people who are already angry and will not get out of there because they already see patterns everywhere like someone looking at a burned pixel on a screen. I will never stop seeing him.