New Vintage gear...basic errors right out of the box. Tell us how much you care, FDev.

Someone is complaining because in the thumbnails of the newly released retro suits (which he hasn't bought, the suit in the main window is what his character's currently wearing) the little accent colours in the undersuit don't match the colours in the descriptions, even though the accent pieces (which do) go over it. Something Zac has confirmed is intentional, and per the actual advertising images is correct.

These are now the lengths people are going to, in order to have a pop at the game and the people behind it.

If they were completely covered by the intended top parts, then i dont think there would be a whole lot of confusion over what's happening here.
But the undersuit color accents are not covered over large areas such as the crotch, underarms and the shoes. And those areas use colors that would be associated with other color selections. Making it appear to be mismatched.

Intentional or not, it looks wrong and is going to get people's attention. Well, people who care about buying suits and are willing to pay over ten bucks for them.
it would make much more sense if the undersuit accents (that you can see when fully dressed) matched the accent colors of the top pieces. That is the expectation.
 
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Would it be remiss of me to point out that none of the above pictures are actually of the full vintage intrepid suit

This is mine, as you can see, all blue;

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The actual undersuit has no colour patches so that's maybe where the confusion comes from. The colours are on the accessories and arm and leg pieces.
The undersuit DOES have colour, which is why I was showing it without the obscuring pieces. The colour is on the feet and underarms.
 
I've looked several times and they clearly offered deceptive images to make a weak point. Don't know why anyone would do that or defend it but its funny.
That's why there was also text besides the images. I think it was pretty clear what OP was talking about.
He should have taken a closer look at the store images before making the purchase, but he wasn't deceptive and neither was he wrong when he said the suit colors don't match the accessories (which is intended as confirmed by Zac).

The only reason I chimed in was because I thought it was ridiculous how some people were piling on the OP like he was wrong and imagining things. I agree that his tone was lacking, but that doesn't change the facts.

And that's all I'll say about that, if you only see what you want to see then it's a pointless discussion anyway, I'm sorry.
 
That's why there was also text besides the images. I think it was pretty clear what OP was talking about.
He should have taken a closer look at the store images before making the purchase, but he wasn't deceptive and neither was he wrong when he said the suit colors don't match the accessories (which is intended as confirmed by Zac).

The only reason I chimed in was because I thought it was ridiculous how some people were piling on the OP like he was wrong and imagining things. I agree that his tone was lacking, but that doesn't change the facts.

And that's all I'll say about that, if you only see what you want to see then it's a pointless discussion anyway, I'm sorry.

I see the original text, hyperbolic is an understatement. The quote reads thusly,

The very first thing I notice is that the Vintage Suite Yellow and Vintage Suit red are identical....both of them are blue. The Vintage Suit Blue is....um...yellow.

Now the only way to make this error is to not go through the full cosmetics. If one opens the Chest pieces it's very clear what the difference is.

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Yet this is presented as a massive quality control error at Frontier. When pics are asked for then, we get a deceptive image showing the undersuits and some red armor from another set. Almost like showing the three pieces I have above would underline the lie.

Maybe I'm misreading intent, but it strains my capacity for credulity that someone could light off about the "naked incompetence" of Frontier's QA without the most basic possible research first.
 
So I decided to check out the new Vintage suits since they sound neat. The very first thing I notice is that the Vintage Suite Yellow and Vintage Suit red are identical....both of them are blue. The Vintage Suit Blue is....um...yellow.

This kind of frankly pathetic quality assurance is just another indicator of how little FDEv appears to care about this game. They cant spare an intern to actually look at something for 30 seconds before trying to flog it for cash?

I'm almost at a loss for words.
I mean.... most of the Horizons cosmetics are STILL broken after almost a year and some havent even been implemented back into Odyssey. I am still missing my golden flight suit. Imagine you bought a cosmetic but you suddenly cannot use it anymore for ALMOST YEAR NOW!

Yes i contacted the support, several times. They are "working" on it. Apparently.
 
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So I decided to check out the new Vintage suits since they sound neat. The very first thing I notice is that the Vintage Suite Yellow and Vintage Suit red are identical....both of them are blue. The Vintage Suit Blue is....um...yellow.

This kind of frankly pathetic quality assurance is just another indicator of how little FDEv appears to care about this game. They cant spare an intern to actually look at something for 30 seconds before trying to flog it for cash?

I'm almost at a loss for words.
Only one thing matters: Did you buy it?
 
People complain about that?
I understand this one, to be fair. Frontier offered limited edition wireframe paint jobs for real, and not insignificant, sums of cash. They were aimed primarily at nostalgic players of the original Elite, some of whom had been playing versions of it on and off for more than 30 years. A mistake like that was going to be noticed.

I'm more concerned that it was never corrected. I see four possibilities:
  • It's really, really difficult to change the direction of those lines and/or limitations in the skinning system won't permit it. Doesn't bode well for the state of the code.
  • FD are so strapped for resources, or so hamstrung by an inflexible Gantt chart, that they've literally not had time for it. For seven years.
  • FD could fix it, but they choose not to because for some reason they prefer some of their customers to have an unscratchable itch.
  • FD don't care. They're not going to sell any others and they already have players' money.
None of these is a good look IMO.

As for the Vintage undersuits, at least they're consistent in their inconsistency. For comparison the Quest Orange suit has orange shoulder pads and wrist patches but a black crotch, brown underarm knee and shin patches, and grey flashing. Quest Brown has black shoulders and wrists, a black crotch, white underarm knee and shin patches, and brown flashing. While Quest Green has black shoulders with a green highlight, brown underarm, green wrists and crotch, brown knee patches with a green surround and brown shins but green soles, and grey flashing.

Is this also by design or is something broken and having odd effects across multiple suits? FD are welcome to claim it's by design and maybe it is, maybe these colour combinations were chosen to contrast with the other body elements. If not, and they're pulling our collective chains, they must have their reason. See the above list, and choose your fighter.

Either way, I'm just going to do what I've always done with outfit customisations; pretty much ignore the names and just choose a combination I like.

And FWIW I really do like these Vintage suits. While they are perhaps a bit too Robby The Robot in the arm flange department, they demonstrate FD's willingness to step a little outside the corner they appeared to have painted themselves into and embrace inspiration from elsewhere in the realms of SF and space exploration history. I've always hoped that we would eventually see some Apollo-era influences in the outfits, or especially some NASA-inspired spaceplane-like paint jobs for the ships, and these Vintage suits seem very much like a possible step in that direction.

They cost me a fiver in Arx top-ups but to be honest I think I'd have happily paid full price for these, if only to send a message that I consider this to be a good move. And it's a long time since I've said that about anything in the cosmetics store. A definite thumbs-up from me one this one, odd colours notwithstanding.
 
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