Next-Gen consoles version looks awful compared to PC

[IG Lord Ragtag]

PS5 user here. I really would like to know about this as well. Won't buy it before knowing whether it really will be that much of a downgrade in the final version of the game or not

That don't make sense.

You must like JWE, so should like JWE2.

Do you own a pc that meets or exceeds Frontiers recommended system specs? If yes, then why even bother with a console version of the game? Again, videos we've seen are from an Alpha development build that I'm sure has not yet been fully optimized for the various platforms.

If all you got is a PS5 then you have set the limits of the games capabilities to that of the console you have. If you don't like the console version, get a pc. You can not have your cake and eat it too when comparing console to pc. PCwins every time.

 

[IG Lord Ragtag]

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[Vick]

If all you got is a PS5 then you have set the limits of the games capabilities to that of the console you have.

That's absolutely ridiculous, we had PS4 games looking much better while being way more demanding than whatever it is offered right now by Frontier:

And i'm ONLY posting free-roam titles with dynamic time of day and wheater, more linear games from Naughty Dog or free-roam with static time of day, like Spider-Man, look whole generations above what was shown of JWE2.

Old-gen consoles were indeed outdated even at launch, and yet still produced these things.
This time the new Consoles are beasts, and if that's really what we should expect from JWE2, it's absolutely pathetic and shouldn't be supported.

 

[Jurassic Tyrant King]

Well we got to remember that this product is still unfinished so I can't really say that the game looks terrible on console just yet until we get the full version, everyone seems to forget that this is just a version not the final version of the game and people shouldn't judge it by a version that is incomplete. Anyway I'm actually glad that I'm still going to play it on my new Xbox I just got today. I already played planet coaster on this and it's got 4K resolution and it's Crystal clear Resolution so even on the series S on another frontier game this console can still perform quite well. So sorry to say I don't think that the product is ready enough for me to judge just by the unfinished version. Just yet my friend

Although I can understand all the concerns from my fellow gamers in this community and I understand because I'm hoping that many changes can be adjusted to this game especially rocks piling on rocks. And also foliage limitations against sidewalks should be removed so this way the foliage can be close to the path as possible to make it look jungle like. But anyway I hope the animations get fixed and I agree that it's good to have criticisms of the game I really hope frontier is listening to those criticisms so this way they can make the game better.

Thankfully a buddy managed to help me get a Xbox series s spared no expense. The things I would do for the best Jurassic world evolution 2 experience.

 

[PCMR4Life]

That's absolutely ridiculous, we had PS4 games looking much better while being way more demanding than whatever it is offered right now by Frontier:

And i'm ONLY posting free-roam titles with dynamic time of day and wheater, more linear games from Naughty Dog or free-roam with static time of day, like Spider-Man, look whole generations above what was shown of JWE2.

Old-gen consoles were indeed outdated even at launch, and yet still produced these things.
This time the new Consoles are beasts, and if that's really what we should expect from JWE2, it's absolutely pathetic and shouldn't be supported.

Those games have to render a small amount of things in one area. JWE and JWE2 are different. You have a bunch of game assets that need to be rendered basically all at once. It's the same reason I can run RDR2 at steady 60 fps on my PC with my hardware but a large city in Cities Skylines will cause a drop in frame rate or a large park in Planet Coaster will cause my performance to drop. Not only does it have to render all the stuff in the park but the CPU has to handle all the physics and AI. In games like days gone and RDR2 only what you see is rendered. Even then it's only rendered to extent. Objects in the background might not be as well textured and so on. You might not see any wind physics interacting with the trees and so on.

 

[IG Lord Ragtag]

That's absolutely ridiculous, we had PS4 games looking much better while being way more demanding than whatever it is offered right now by Frontier:

And i'm ONLY posting free-roam titles with dynamic time of day and wheater, more linear games from Naughty Dog or free-roam with static time of day, like Spider-Man, look whole generations above what was shown of JWE2.

Old-gen consoles were indeed outdated even at launch, and yet still produced these things.
This time the new Consoles are beasts, and if that's really what we should expect from JWE2, it's absolutely pathetic and shouldn't be supported.

That's because those PS4 game you constantly refer too are complete and optimised for that platform.

JWE2 is still in development, Alpha developers build, that has not been optimised for the various platforms.

I still stand by the statement that games will alway look and perform better on a pc. Yes current gen consoles have closed the gap but only for a brief period of time until the next revolution in graphics and processor technology becomes available. A pc can upgrade, a console can not. Consoles are designed to be replaced every 6 years or so with the next generation just to stay competative with pc.

Yes current consoles are beasts compared to the previous gen console, but they still are dwarfed by what a current gen processor/video card combo with enough ram can do.

That's just technology and how the industry has implemented it..

 

[PCMR4Life]

That's because those PS4 game you constantly refer too are complete and optimised for that platform.

JWE2 is still in development, Alpha developers build, that has not been optimised for the various platforms.

I still stand by the statement that games will alway look and perform better on a pc. Yes current gen consoles have closed the gap but only for a brief period of time until the next revolution in graphics and processor technology becomes available. A pc can upgrade, a console can not. Consoles are designed to be replaced every 6 years or so with the next generation just to stay competative with pc.

Yes current consoles are beasts compared to the previous gen console, but they still are dwarfed by what a current gen processor/video card combo with enough ram can do.

That's just technology and how the industry has implemented it..

Take that picture someone posted above with the room. It's possible to make that one room look nice. Now take a whole mansion and make every room look that nice and make it so that you can see every room. You are going to get poor performance. That's basically what JWE and JWE2 are doing. Showing you the whole mansion and not just one room. So some sacrifices in graphical quality are probably needed. That's the price of playing on consoles and it's always been that way. But these days console gamers want consoles to be equal to PC's which isn't possible and will never will be. Unless they want to start paying PC prices for their consoles.

 

[Vick]

Why on has this Thread turned into a lame PC vs Consoles?
I just wanted an explanation from Frontier..

Those games have to render a small amount of things in one area.

Pardon?

JWE and JWE2 are different. You have a bunch of game assets that need to be rendered basically all at once. It's the same reason I can run RDR2 at steady 60 fps on my PC with my hardware but a large city in Cities Skylines will cause a drop in frame rate or a large park in Planet Coaster will cause my performance to drop. Not only does it have to render all the stuff in the park but the CPU has to handle all the physics and AI. In games like days gone and RDR2 only what you see is rendered. Even then it's only rendered to extent. Objects in the background might not be as well textured and so on. You might not see any wind physics interacting with the trees and so on.

Every game on earth is like this, including JWE and JWE2, it's called Level Of Detail, LOD. And it's clear as day Frontier's Engine is still pretty lacking in this regard.. i was hoping for an improment this time but it actually look worse than in the first game at the moment.

That's because those PS4 game you constantly refer too are complete and optimised for that platform.

JWE2 is still in development, Alpha developers build, that has not been optimised for the various platforms.

Sure, but the game is coming in about two months, not a year or something..

Take that picture someone posted above with the room. It's possible to make that one room look nice. Now take a whole mansion and make every room look that nice and make it so that you can see every room. You are going to get poor performance. That's basically what JWE and JWE2 are doing. Showing you the whole mansion and not just one room. So some sacrifices in graphical quality are probably needed.

Nonsense, it's called streaming of assets/LOD management. If you think JWE and JWE2 are displaying on screen the highest LOD version of every asset all the time... well, you're dead wrong.

That's the price of playing on consoles and it's always been that way. But these days console gamers want consoles to be equal to PC's which isn't possible and will never will be. Unless they want to start paying PC prices for their consoles.

I see you have a 2070 Super.. these "weak" Consoles can outperform your PC.

First of all, RTX 2060 Super is 20 per cent slower than PlayStation 5, dropping to 10 per cent with an RTX 2070 Super. Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but at the moment, they are more powerful than an awful lot of PC's.

Although I can understand all the concerns from my fellow gamers in this community and I understand because I'm hoping that many changes can be adjusted to this game especially rocks piling on rocks. And also foliage limitations against sidewalks should be removed so this way the foliage can be close to the path as possible to make it look jungle like. But anyway I hope the animations get fixed and I agree that it's good to have criticisms of the game I really hope frontier is listening to those criticisms so this way they can make the game better.

Totally agree.

 

[Nioell]

You still can't compare a sim game like JWE/2 to a shooter or RPG because it doesn't all come down to graphics but a whole lot of other stuff that needs to be constantly calculated as well, and want it or not that load is way higher when it comes to sim games with a ton of AI and other things to process than in a scripted RPG or shooter. That's most likely also why mixed eras isn't a thing for older consoles from what we've heard (really glad they did it this way around btw, instead of letting it limit newer console and PC versions), they simply can't handle that load on top of everything else and it is probably why (if it doesn't change anymore) they made the decision to cut down on the graphics some instead of leaving other things out.

 

[Gondwana]

That don't make sense.

You must like JWE, so should like JWE2.

Do you own a pc that meets or exceeds Frontiers recommended system specs? If yes, then why even bother with a console version of the game? Again, videos we've seen are from an Alpha development build that I'm sure has not yet been fully optimized for the various platforms.

If all you got is a PS5 then you have set the limits of the games capabilities to that of the console you have. If you don't like the console version, get a pc. You can not have your cake and eat it too when comparing console to pc. PCwins every time.

Dude, what are you talking about? I just want to know if the final PS5 version will be extremely downgraded like in the first post of this thread or not. Other users already pointed out that the PS5 is easily strong enough to play a game like this. So if the PS5 version indeed is a heavy downgrade compared to the PC version for some obscure reason, then I wont't buy it. Simple as that.

 

[Mosek]

Well we got to remember that this product is still unfinished so I can't really say that the game looks terrible on console just yet until we get the full version, everyone seems to forget that this is just a version not the final version of the game and people shouldn't judge it by a version that is incomplete. Anyway I'm actually glad that I'm still going to play it on my new Xbox I just got today. I already played planet coaster on this and it's got 4K resolution and it's Crystal clear Resolution so even on the series S on another frontier game this console can still perform quite well. So sorry to say I don't think that the product is ready enough for me to judge just by the beta version. Just yet my friend

Although I can understand all the concerns from my fellow gamers in this community and I understand because I'm hoping that many changes can be adjusted to this game especially rocks piling on rocks. And also foliage limitations against sidewalks should be removed so this way the foliage can be close to the path as possible to make it look jungle like. But anyway I hope the animations get fixed and I agree that it's good to have criticisms of the game I really hope frontier is listening to those criticisms so this way they can make the game better.

Thankfully a buddy managed to help me get a Xbox series s spared no expense. The things I would do for the best Jurassic world evolution 2 experience.
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You are a bit wrong its still in pré alpha there no beta. its true you should not judge thé game from pré alpha and beta thé graphique levels are not ready. so for pre alpha thé graphique are already high i Saw other alpha and pretty ugly so bé happy for what thé alpha looks. the final version will be a hell of graphique level

 

[Mosek]

That's because those PS4 game you constantly refer too are complete and optimised for that platform.

JWE2 is still in development, Alpha developers build, that has not been optimised for the various platforms.

I still stand by the statement that games will alway look and perform better on a pc. Yes current gen consoles have closed the gap but only for a brief period of time until the next revolution in graphics and processor technology becomes available. A pc can upgrade, a console can not. Consoles are designed to be replaced every 6 years or so with the next generation just to stay competative with pc.

Yes current consoles are beasts compared to the previous gen console, but they still are dwarfed by what a current gen processor/video card combo with enough ram can do.

That's just technology and how the industry has implemented it..

True pc will Always be better. That why i search for job to buy a beast of a pc i have Xbox one s and séries s. i pré order the deluxe édition of jwe2 on the Xbox séries s am kind Huy that hâte console fanboys so i can't sée much PlayStation fanboys BC they are thé worst of them am multi platform Guy so yeah

 

[Bary33]

Thankfully a buddy managed to help me get a Xbox series s spared no expense. The things I would do for the best Jurassic world evolution 2 experience.
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I hope they make a great version for it, it has a lot of potential, I only bought it through JWE 2

 

[PCMR4Life]

You still can't compare a sim game like JWE/2 to a shooter or RPG because it doesn't all come down to graphics but a whole lot of other stuff that needs to be constantly calculated as well, and want it or not that load is way higher when it comes to sim games with a ton of AI and other things to process than in a scripted RPG or shooter. That's most likely also why mixed eras isn't a thing for older consoles from what we've heard (really glad they did it this way around btw, instead of letting it limit newer console and PC versions), they simply can't handle that load on top of everything else and it is probably why (if it doesn't change anymore) they made the decision to cut down on the graphics some instead of leaving other things out.

I like it when console gamers try to talk hardware. LOL

Management sims like Planet Coaster and JWE are usually CPU hungry. They use up a lot of CPU cycles. The new consoles are still using APU's. Meaning the CPU has to handle the graphics as well as the other stuff a CPU would handle in a game.

These console people don't understand at all. They act like their $500 plastic box with static hardware is equivalent to someone's $1,000+ gaming rig. LOL

Even when you explain it to them they still refuse to accept it. If they want their games to look good and play good then they need to get gaming PC's. Expecting games to look PC quality on a $500 console is ridiculous.

 

[Vick]

I like it when console gamers try to talk hardware. LOL

Looks like someone, who turned this Thread into a stupid war in the first place, got triggered hard by simple facts.

Management sims like Planet Coaster and JWE are usually CPU hungry. They use up a lot of CPU cycles. The new consoles are still using APU's. Meaning the CPU has to handle the graphics as well as the other stuff a CPU would handle in a game.

Source: https://youtu.be/PW-7Y7GbsiY

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erxUR9SI4F0

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These console people don't understand at all. They act like their $500 plastic box with static hardware is equivalent to someone's $1,000+ gaming rig. LOL

They don't "act" like, this is simple reality at the moment.

But i'm sure you think your not-biased-at-all opinion can somehow outweight that of Tim Sweeney or the Digital Foundry guys or NXGamer, etc. etc.

 

[Gondwana]

Why on has this Thread turned into a lame PC vs Consoles?
I just wanted an explanation from Frontier..

Yeah, this. Really annoying how this thread has been littered with this "PC Master race" fanboy crap. So embarrassing. All we want is some info from the devs, that's it