So much misinformation in one post...
No Man's Sky recent success is good sign for Elite and future Space games/sims
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So much misinformation in one post...
Hello games has 16 people on staff, not 6, but that aside the contingent on Elite is reportedly far larger. That isn't misinformation. They've grown the feature set of the game considerably and revisited their fundamentals. These are things Elite has promised to do but not yet fully delivered, though we know steps are being made.
Edit: Employee numbers I got were apparently from 2016. They've apparently grown to 1/4th of the devs supposedly on Elite.
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Rafe Zetter
Banned
You're right he IS wrong,
Hello games has 25 employees - Net worth: unknown as it's not a publically traded company, but I highly doubt they have the same resources as FDev.
FDev 312 has employees - net worth £38.2 MILLION, net INCOME 7.8 million.
so, you were saying?
That there's a lot of misinformation, so far you're not proving me wrong.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
ED doesn't even HAVE atmospheric flight so your point is?
You know full and well what the point was.
The only misinformation was the Hello games employee count. The rest was right and as such wasn't "a lot of misinformation."
Which reminds me to ask, what is blowing my ship around on these worlds with no atmosphere?
Nor does NMS, flight is flight, at least in Elite you're affected by gravity.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
and you're not provng me wrong either - you get the up to date figures from TODAY and show them to PROVE I'm wrong, or be shown up to just be empty hyperbole.
ANYONE can say "you're wrong" about anything, but without PROOF, it's just words.
*tag* you're it.
Utter rubbish, FD is working on how many games? You admit you've no idea of the budget that HG has so that's a guess at best and you can't even agree on an employee count lol. Two years to put a new lick of paint on the game and throw in basic multiplayer and other features that should have been there on launch. Yeh yeh, but no, let's strip it down to the bare bones and make out FD is bad lol.
I'd say right back at you, but that would be childish.
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
Yeah. Lets not get childish shall we.
If you want to have a discussion, how about starting from facts, not challenges. That would be mature and adult.
If you want to have a discussion, how about starting from facts, not challenges. That would be mature and adult.
I got 25, do I hear a 35, 35, anyone, 35, 32, I got 25, anyone 32 ... 30, 30, anyone 30? I got 25
Going once ....
I heard it was two blokes in a shoebox in the middle of the M1 motorway developing it.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
Wrong.
Flat out wrong
ED - look look! the planets are all empty and there's fff nothing to do, but at least you got GRAVITY on the planets you WON'T BE GOING TO BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
NMS does have atmopheric flight - speed is decreased, boosters DO NOT work infinitely as they do in space, hyperspeed is not possible. All that shows NMS has two different flight models according to planetary proximity.
Oh, I almost forgot.... NMS DOES HAVE GRAVITY - buy the game, jump off a cliff, see what happens.
(caps for emphasis not shouting - same for all my posts)
ED great flight model, empty galaxy to fly in. You can keep that, I'll be over here laughing at the goofy animals and talking to the NPC's I employ in my base.
Not really helping your case here. If the staff levels are comparable for ED specifically then it means ED is low priority for Frontier. If not, they're working slower on it. No way around this really. Whether it be design leadership and direction, dev tools and existing code, resource allocation or anything else the transformation of NMS under the one game supporting Hello games has been considerably more impressive than Frontier with the revenue of 3 games and a staff some 14x greater. With an even split between games FDev could have over 4x the staff on ED.
And yeah, many of those NMS features should have been at launch, but they weren't. Conversely Elite still has what feels like placeholder mechanics and still constrains player ownership of the sandbox they've created. Yet Hello games delivered on adding those features and revisiting it's fundamentals.
Yes, you're assessment is indeed utter rubbish with any excuse not to compare the 2.
I had 2016 numbers, give it time and it will change again, one way or another.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
just shows some people don't do up to date research - HG had 6 employee's then it was 16, until launch, now it's 25, give or take.
Next time I'm in Guildford (lovely town, with old buildings, a castle and canals) - which is 20 minutes drive from my parents house - I'll drop by and ask shall I?
Ohhh, you mean like how elite stops you from using supercruise when close to a planet and you'll overheat your thrusters if you boost too much in high g? We can all play that game. How does gravity affect the ships in NMS? oh that's right, it doesn't. Buy the game? lol, I've had it since launch, I'm not arguing from an uninformed position, did you want that in all caps for emphasis? Please do go over there and laugh at the goofy animals and talking to NPC's, still not sure why you're here trying to convince me and others when you could be having fun playing...
Or maybe I was simply pointing out that stating FD has 300 odd staff working on Elite was factually incorrect? And if you think that NMS is anywhere near as complex as Elite then you've not played either of them enough.
The post that started this claimed 6 employees from Hello games and 10x the manpower working on Elite. That's 60 people, not 300.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
I can't tell if you're talking about NMS or ED.......
HG has not moved to spanky new LARGE premises, or floated the company on the stock market, which in case you don't know, and I don't think you do; is usually done once a company reaches a certain size and income stream so that investors have faith the company is growing and producing a good income.
The fact that HG have not done this tells you by inference that they don't have the same income, ergo less money to throw at a project, ergo LESS BUDGET.
also - the CEO is NOT a millionaire -
your move.
PS - you've still not shown me any PROOF I'm wrong yet - saying "back at you" when I've shown figures and information and you have not doesn't work.
How do I know that? talk to the police or any lawyer.