No motivation to go on.

[Iori]

So I just came back after a few weeks to try the new update, and I really like what they did with the radio chatter and the graphics, however, I'm at this point in the game in which everything seems like a huge mountain climb, and this update has made it even harder.

First I start with my current objectives:

-Earn about 300 million more, to install a good shield and an A PP to my Cutter.
-Improve reputation with the empire and see if there are any Empire-aligned engineers.
-Get access to the engineers and start collecting materials to improve the different modules

Problems:

-Farming in Haz res is out of the question now, tried to get my Cutter there, faced an NPC Anaconda, and I beat it, but It left me at 32% with a breached canopy: Total earnings : 100k
I welcome the challenge of the new and harder AI, but the rewards should really be increased to compensate.
-I couldn't find missions, docked at many stations, looked for systems in state of war, most of the missions were for small ships and no combat oriented ones. They all paid pretty low. Only found one combat mission, and it paid 100k.

Neither of these options will help me earn money or get along with the Empire

-Trading back and fourth seems to be the only viable way to make money now and achieve at least the first objective, but having so little time and so many more engaging games to play right now, I can't justify spending my time doing that. While I could be having fun in Overwatch instead, or just beating any game of my backlog. And thats before even starting to talk about getting materials for the modules.

TL;DR: The game has become even slower and grindier.

 

[h347h]

Okay

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[dayrth]

If getting stuff for your cutter is taking too long and too much effort, trade it in for a smaller ship. Smaller ships have always been fun, but now have a bigger advantage with more manoevrability.

 

[Flimley]

I like everything \o/

 

[DoctorDanny]

Logged in

Travelled 43 jumps to an engineer.
Engineer wants soontill relics.
Spent half an hour browsing the forums on where to find them.
Learned that I need to travel 73 jumps to some system that sells them as rare trade goods.
Oh and 73 jumps back again.

Logged out.

 

[Hajile]

there seems to be overall confusion about this game caring if your rich or not. OP you are not playing Elite, you are playing a money making simulator and that is why your not having fun... I do not mean this rude but I would suggest you wipe your save and start fresh, experience the new AI, Missions, and engineers fresh!

 

[Codger]

Good thing you did because they aren't even available there right now.

 

[Glock_N_Load]

So I just came back after a few weeks to try the new update, and I really like what they did with the radio chatter and the graphics, however, I'm at this point in the game in which everything seems like a huge mountain climb, and this update has made it even harder.

First I start with my current objectives:

-Earn about 300 million more, to install a good shield and an A PP to my Cutter.
-Improve reputation with the empire and see if there are any Empire-aligned engineers.
-Get access to the engineers and start collecting materials to improve the different modules

Problems:

-Farming in Haz res is out of the question now, tried to get my Cutter there, faced an NPC Anaconda, and I beat it, but It left me at 32% with a breached canopy: Total earnings : 100k
I welcome the challenge of the new and harder AI, but the rewards should really be increased to compensate.
-I couldn't find missions, docked at many stations, looked for systems in state of war, most of the missions were for small ships and no combat oriented ones. They all paid pretty low. Only found one combat mission, and it paid 100k.

Neither of these options will help me earn money or get along with the Empire

-Trading back and fourth seems to be the only viable way to make money now and achieve at least the first objective, but having so little time and so many more engaging games to play right now, I can't justify spending my time doing that. While I could be having fun in Overwatch instead, or just beating any game of my backlog. And thats before even starting to talk about getting materials for the modules.

TL;DR: The game has become even slower and grindier.

Same here. I posted my disapproval across the board and I surrender. Missions don't pay much and the ones that do mean almost instant death (only advise given is to become a flying ace). Don't feel like starting the engineer grind but if you don't even a siddy will take you out eventually. The game now truly dictates to u how you have to play it. Like you, I have a back log of games to play Doom, Descent Underground....etc. I have even taken an interest in Brutal Doom 2.0b and waiting on Doom 64 (both free). I'm happy for the Flying Aces out there getting what they wanted Wings, CQC, Arena and now Elite Combat Simulator 2.1. +1 rep to u Cmdr

 

[Mark Lock]

So I just came back after a few weeks to try the new update, and I really like what they did with the radio chatter and the graphics, however, I'm at this point in the game in which everything seems like a huge mountain climb, and this update has made it even harder.

First I start with my current objectives:

-Earn about 300 million more, to install a good shield and an A PP to my Cutter.
-Improve reputation with the empire and see if there are any Empire-aligned engineers.
-Get access to the engineers and start collecting materials to improve the different modules

Problems:

-Farming in Haz res is out of the question now, tried to get my Cutter there, faced an NPC Anaconda, and I beat it, but It left me at 32% with a breached canopy: Total earnings : 100k
I welcome the challenge of the new and harder AI, but the rewards should really be increased to compensate.
-I couldn't find missions, docked at many stations, looked for systems in state of war, most of the missions were for small ships and no combat oriented ones. They all paid pretty low. Only found one combat mission, and it paid 100k.

Neither of these options will help me earn money or get along with the Empire

-Trading back and fourth seems to be the only viable way to make money now and achieve at least the first objective, but having so little time and so many more engaging games to play right now, I can't justify spending my time doing that. While I could be having fun in Overwatch instead, or just beating any game of my backlog. And thats before even starting to talk about getting materials for the modules.

TL;DR: The game has become even slower and grindier.

Missions are impossible now, I tried one where I had to kill 6 smugglers in X system.

I jumped to that system, found a mission target, killed it, then entered sc, no more mission targets, I got interdicted several times by an Anaconda while trying to interdict mission targets, this happened for 30 minutes, then I killed another target which for some reason wasn't counted, then I try to kill another one, the npc then escapes with 45percent hull, then I tried to drop from sc to reset instance as there were no more targets for a while, an Anaconda immediately spawns on me, I boost and entered sc again, then I try to interdict another 2 targets, Anaconda spawns and interdicts me twice in a raw, I boost and enter sc, I finally get to interdict one target, I start shooting target like crazy, after a few seconds, the stalker anaconda drops in again, I'm forced to leave, my hull down to 40percent in seconds, I go back to a station for repairs, I log off bored and        off, no fun, just frustration, res sites and haz still the most viable way to make money, missions are unplayable ...

It's not about skills, it's about fairness, targets not spawning + stalked by Anacondas all the time, come on, I didn't have any fun, I'm just frustrated about the new update, fixing AI was the right way to go, making it unfair and unfun to do missions is a no go, all for 300k while risking to have to pay 4M insurance, please make the game fun, not more grindy to play

 

[Bacalao]

-Farming in Haz res is out of the question now,

You think this is a bad thing? Farming is a profession, a dull, dirty, boring, low paying job....why would we want it in any way, shape or form to come into a game? It seems like you're complaining because now to do all the activities you did before, you actually play the game (look for trade routes, find smuggling missions, follow the BGS, fight in combat instead of farm) and get credits, which takes a little more time because now there is a gameplay aspect instead of a "place-face-on-keyboard-and-roll" aspect. Your post basically complains about all the things that excite me in 2.1...

 

[Hajile]

Same here. I posted my disapproval across the board and I surrender. Missions don't pay much and the ones that do mean almost instant death (only advise given is to become a flying ace). Don't feel like starting the engineer grind but if you don't even a siddy will take you out eventually. The game now truly dictates to u how you have to play it. Like you, I have a back log of games to play Doom, Descent Underground....etc. I have even taken an interest in Brutal Doom 2.0b and waiting on Doom 64 (both free). I'm happy for the Flying Aces out there getting what they wanted Wings, CQC, Arena and now Elite Combat Simulator 2.1. +1 rep to u Cmdr

so your upset that there is difficult combat in a game with the word Dangerous in the title... funny cause I was upset for the exact opposite reason up until this update.

 

[Privata]

What a load of nonsens.

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so your upset that there is difficult combat in a game with the word Dangerous in the title... funny cause I was upset for the exact opposite reason up until this update.

The new AI is amazing , I am actualy having fun fighting AI ! I dont need to look for powerplay enemies ! its amazing.

 

[Mark Lock]

there seems to be overall confusion about this game caring if your rich or not. OP you are not playing Elite, you are playing a money making simulator and that is why your not having fun... I do not mean this rude but I would suggest you wipe your save and start fresh, experience the new AI, Missions, and engineers fresh!

Not everybody has hours to spend ingame, as it is now, the game focus on grinding much more than before, Missions now take much more time and you get stalked over and over again, Anacondas spawn on you while fighting your target, It's a way too much to me, we play Elite but this has become an arcadish game where enemies spawn on you without any reason....

 

[TomP]

Can I has your stuff?

 

[shadragon]

I like everything \o/

I repped your post! \o/

 

[DrBo42]

Can't believe how often I see thread     ting in this forum. OP is simply stating that rewards should meet the risk when it comes to combat and that he should be able to make comparable money to other roles. Isn't this the entire reason we had 20+ threads complaining about Robigo? Come on, people. It's a very valid complaint now that the AI has been buffed.

 

[Hajile]

What a load of nonsens.

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The new AI is amazing , I am actualy having fun fighting AI ! I dont need to look for powerplay enemies ! its amazing.

im thrilled with the new game... and honestly im terrible at it.

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Not everybody has hours to spend ingame, as it is now, the game focus on grinding much more than before, Missions now take much more time and you get stalked over and over again, Anacondas spawn on you while fighting your target, It's a way too much to me, we play Elite but this has become an arcadish game where enemies spawn on you without any reason....

I play like 3 hours a week normal (more when awesome patches drop) so don't give that crap about I don't have enough time... I know that I am bad at Elite but I look forward to getting better... if I wanted to play something without any difficulty I would play board games against my kids. I don't enjoy doing things that are easy... it is the same with work -- I want a challenge I don't want to just be a warm body at walmart stocking milk without engaging my brain all day.

 

[RoninCahill]

they need a difficulty slider, at least for Solo mode, as they need to accommodate for those of us who like the old Elite and find this new elite very OP. frankly im scared to leave my base as I have lost 26,500,000 credits in the last day to insurance claims. Some of us suck and like the older version, some of us don't and are hot pilots. a simple selector allows everyone to enjoy the game, which is why you should be playing.

Sincerely:

Super Scared to leave base
Ronin

 

[Privata]

they need a difficulty slider, at least for Solo mode, as they need to accommodate for those of us who like the old Elite and find this new elite very OP. frankly im scared to leave my base as I have lost 26,500,000 credits in the last day to insurance claims. Some of us suck and like the older version, some of us don't and are hot pilots. a simple selector allows everyone to enjoy the game, which is why you should be playing.

Sincerely:

Super Scared to leave base
Ronin

Thats fine but the old version was broken , it was ment to be like this from the start.
However maybe an easy mode for solo (optional) would be okay...
Maybe even add an solo hardcore as well

 

[Hajile]

they need a difficulty slider, at least for Solo mode, as they need to accommodate for those of us who like the old Elite and find this new elite very OP. frankly im scared to leave my base as I have lost 26,500,000 credits in the last day to insurance claims. Some of us suck and like the older version, some of us don't and are hot pilots. a simple selector allows everyone to enjoy the game, which is why you should be playing.

Sincerely:

Super Scared to leave base
Ronin

previously posted this in the last thread about ai but it applies...
I understand your grief you have spent time and real money getting to a place where you feel you are good. but your not, neither am I to be honest. I have been destroy by the beta AI countless times and because of this I am seeing the flaws in my flying... I am improving. I would suggest you downgrade your ship to the nearest "combat ship" - Eagle, Viper, Vulture, FAS, FDL... whatever fits your $$$ then A rate it. after that spend some time Hunting single NPCs with progressively higher rank. you will get better and you will love the fact that you are better. I don't understand this desire to play chess with kindergartners, the slaughter of the brain dead AI has ceased. we are now playing chess with opponents who call it a Knight and a Rook, not a horsy and a castle.