No, no, no, nooooooo!!!

Major Klutz

Major Klutz
Fanghur Rahl said:
When you try to land on a high gravity world, do NOT hold down the descend button. Just quickly tap it, wait until you stop, then repeat, and keep your finger over the ascend button. I found that out the hard way the same way you did.
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Best to just pitch your nose down a few degrees and glide down slowly like an airplane until you're a meter or two off the ground. Then find a landing zone and drop on your shields.
Even just quickly tapping the down thrusters can cause you to fall a KM or two.
 
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Major Klutz

Major Klutz
No need to use the Saitek software. Just configure the setting in the game and rotate the control you want to use to set it. Double check up in space that it's not inverted.
I use Joystick Curves to flatten out the response near the bottom so I have finer control at the low end. Otherwise (on my hotas) it can be a bit touchy near the detent.
I use the vertical thumb wheel around the clutch/boost button for vertical thrust and the top horizontal wheel around the FSD button for lateral thrust.

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Yeah, it makes landings significantly easier. Even if you're not in high gravity. You can descend at a constant speed instead of starts and stops.
 
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GunnerBill

GunnerBill
You have my sympathy Cmdr. From your description it sounds like we were not that far apart.

Of no help to you but I won't go anywhere near a planet over 1.5 G while I am on this long range mission, too much risk and as you know it can go horribly, horribly wrong very quickly.

Better luck for next time :)
 

Jeppan74

Jeppan74
Well Thanks again everybody :)
The nebula the planet was in is called Bleae asecs aa-a h25, so if anyone is around please check it out. Though be careful ;)
 

Major Klutz

Major Klutz
I checked EDSM https://www.edsm.net/ , EDDN https://eddb.io/body and EGO http://www.elitegalaxyonline.com/search/

Update. That nebula is about 12,595.44 ly from Sol. It's a big nebula with a lot of stars so probably no way to figure out which system you were in or what planet you crashed on.

I tried searching for landable bodies sorted by distance from a reference system in the nebula but couldn't find anything over 2G within 500Ly. Nothing with even remotely high gravity within 200Ly, though there are very few landable bodies even cataloged in that area.
So probably nobody else has ever scanned it using third party tools.
 
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Sniffy75

Sniffy75
Do you happen to remember what class of star it was around?
it may help somewhat, unless it was a common M or K class
 

firmicute

firmicute
Jeppan74 said:
Then I found this system which had the biggest landable body I´ve ever seen! It was bigger then some of the smaller gas giants. So the explorer in me said that I just had to land there to see if there was something different here - There was and I should never had tried it... [...]
And the strange thing is that I have no idea why this happened?? Because the game engine can´t be that good that it calculate the gravity from the size of the body you land on, can it? But that´s the only resonable explanation I have for the landing to go so wrong, that the big planet gravity pulled me down.

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well naturally bigger mass means more gravity, innit?
So a planet that is bigger than small gas giants will therefore have a pretty high mass which indicates high G.

ALWAYS CHECK GRAVITY BEFORE ATTEMPTING A LANDING..
I do it for every planet, but the smaller have low gravity, especially when they are basically ice and a wish.
Btw you can check the G for yourself- just open the gal-map and put the filter "visited planets" on and untick the box next to "not visited" which then should show you only the systems you were at. You should also remember the approx area where that system is- then just open it and look at the planets description which will tell you its g.
Landing on High g planets needs really good thrusters-and I think a lot of explorers take D to reduce weight.
Landing on High G also requires a different approach to gliding and ..well leaving it will also be hard without good thrusters.
 

Duckfat

Duckfat
I've crashed half way into expeditions before. Just bit the bullet and Bucky balled it back. You're not alone in your pain and regret my friend. Just get back into it.
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
firmicute said:
well naturally bigger mass means more gravity, innit?
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Mostly, but it also depends on the density - a high mass but large and low density planet may have low surface (or "surface" in the case of gas giants) gravity. In game terms, metal rich planets have the highest density and the highest "gravity per mass" while the likes of icy planets have a comparatively low "gravity per mass" - a 4 Earth mass MRW will have much higher surface gravity than a 4 Earth mass Icy world.
 

Jeppan74

Jeppan74
@sniffy75 Unfortunately no... I was jumping around as many stars in the nebula I could, and there was really nothing special with the system, so no black holes, earth like worlds or neutron stars :)
But now when I´m watching Major Klutz videos about high gravity landing, I´m realizing I´m such a n00b. So it could easily have been a 2 or 3g planet, that I was to stupid to land on :D
 

space voyager

space voyager
Major Klutz said:
Best to just pitch your nose down a few degrees and glide down slowly like an airplane until you're a meter or two off the ground. Then find a landing zone and drop on your shields.
Even just quickly tapping the down thrusters can cause you to fall a KM or two.
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THIS. It is by far the easiest and safest landing method. Landed on 9,77G without any problems whatsoever. Instead of 'droping on your shields' you can just continue and scratch into the surface...
 
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firmicute

firmicute
Jackie Silver said:
Mostly, but it also depends on the density - a high mass but large and low density planet may have low surface (or "surface" in the case of gas giants) gravity. In game terms, metal rich planets have the highest density and the highest "gravity per mass" while the likes of icy planets have a comparatively low "gravity per mass" - a 4 Earth mass MRW will have much higher surface gravity than a 4 Earth mass Icy world.
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Well yeah I only applied it to landable planets as the gas giants arent and I don't wanna try to land on neutron stars, white dwarfs or black holes..
and ice planets have ice which isn't the most densest thing..
(that's us pilots *snort*)


so the golden rules for elite explorers are:

1.Never fly without Rebuy
2. Never forget KGB-FOAM
3.Never fly without ADS and, if you value your dosh, not without DSS
4. Always check gravity of your planet before attempting a landing, it takes only a second as its right before your eyes on your hud when even lightly entering the planets zone.
If you want to use the neutron highway, bring two AFMU's
5.A heatsink in need is a friend indeed and also practical to speed up as it allows you to jump near hot stars or leave a planet when you ship needs a few second to get THAT YOU ARE AIMING AT THE RIGHT TRAJECTORY ALREADY GOSH DAMMIT
 
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Orvidius

Orvidius
Are you on PC? If you install EDDiscovery, it should read through all of the accumulated log data, then you can scroll back and see where it happened. I think.
 

Jeppan74

Jeppan74
Unfortunately I´m on PS4... But I just have to embark on another journey and go back to the nebula (because I know which one it is). But I´m thinking about staying close to the bubble now until the Thargoid update is live, since it´s probably there the action is going to happen :)
 
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