"No plans to port Elite Dangerous to PS5"

NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev

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NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev
FDev painted themselves into a corner by saying they'd put EDO on XB1 & PS4, they are struggling to make it run well on much more powerful PCs letalone older ones, which are comparable to last gen consoles. Had they said PS5/XBX tehy might have been able to port sooner, but even that would likely have been limited to 1080p instead of the 4k such console owners would expect the game to run at. IMHO It's not discrimination against console players that is causing the delay, simply the EDO engine is so badly unoptimixed they have a world of hurt to crawl through to get EDO into a position where it will live up to the expectations of the customers on the console platforms. And if they just pushed it out on console in it's initial/current state, Odyssey would be the new CP2077 meme of botched launches.
 

SasaThargoidsHunter

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NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev said:
FDev painted themselves into a corner by saying they'd put EDO on XB1 & PS4, they are struggling to make it run well on much more powerful PCs letalone older ones, which are comparable to last gen consoles. Had they said PS5/XBX tehy might have been able to port sooner, but even that would likely have been limited to 1080p instead of the 4k such console owners would expect the game to run at. IMHO It's not discrimination against console players that is causing the delay, simply the EDO engine is so badly unoptimixed they have a world of hurt to crawl through to get EDO into a position where it will live up to the expectations of the customers on the console platforms. And if they just pushed it out on console in it's initial/current state, Odyssey would be the new CP2077 meme of botched launches.
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And the big questions here is, what is happens in almost 4 year of development, I mean honestly, planet tech is a step back in EDO or was. The graphical update isn’t ,state of the art,, and the copy and pasted settlements couldn’t be a thing either. That is the big question in my mind. What is happens in this long time of development? Honestly, because EDO on it’s release day was clearly not the promised thing, I remember when they are talking about the sphere of combat and it wasn’t available, it feels so weird to be honest. So much time has passed away and the most content comes after the dlc. I didn’t get this.

so then the cut off from VR (sadly) the delay of consoles (doom of cancelation?) update 11 will hit soon tm and then ? Another 10 updates to fix the fix from the hotfixes ?

but hey, let’s play it on HRZN with features which are ghosted due to minor fixes for us on consoles. I really really really hope they will change their point of view, for everything. I bet that this update will break things again, like everytime. And this shouldn’t be the normal standard for them, whe know they can do it better.

Edit: this is total honest opinion.
 
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NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev

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NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev
SasaThargoidsHunter said:
And the big questions here is, what is happens in almost 4 year of development, I mean honestly, planet tech is a step back in EDO or was. The graphical update isn’t ,state of the art,, and the copy and pasted settlements couldn’t be a thing either. That is the big question in my mind. What is happens in this long time of development? Honestly, because EDO on it’s release day was clearly not the promised thing, I remember when they are talking about the sphere of combat and it wasn’t available, it feels so weird to be honest. So much time has passed away and the most content comes after the dlc. I didn’t get this.

so then the cut off from VR (sadly) the delay of consoles (doom of cancelation?) update 11 will hit soon tm and then ? Another 10 updates to fix the fix from the hotfixes ?

but hey, let’s play it on HRZN with features which are ghosted due to minor fixes for us on consoles. I really really really hope they will change their point of view, for everything. I bet that this update will break things again, like everytime. And this shouldn’t be the normal standard for them, whe know they can do it better.
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Look at my username and avatar, I'm not exactly a sycophantic fanboy now am I? And I wholl agree, EDO should never have been released in that state, it should have spent another six months in alpha IMHO, that four week pay-to-access alpha was just a cynical cash grab IMHO. Dropping VR was IMHO a. pauses to reword this lest mods do it for me, flawed, decision. But like most VR players, and in my and many other cases, VR ex-players, I agree that the game needs "fixed up" with performance issues addressed and missing content added, then commercially it needs to go to the console port, then hopefully we can get an improved implementation. It's really bad that after all these years the console players cannot fly with us master race [jesting] players, it's even worse that for nigh on a year now they are playing in their own little pocket universes on a client that is a full version behind the beta quality DLC we have access to.

However, that being said, if you do the mental arithmetic of framerates EDO is experiencing on highend PC hardware scaled down by the relative performance of console hardware, I'm guessing that a first person combat zone would be a First Person Slideshow rather than a First Person Shooter, so I understand the decision to defer console ports.
 

SasaThargoidsHunter

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NoVR - What_The_X_F_Dev said:
Look at my username and avatar, I'm not exactly a sycophantic fanboy now am I? And I wholl agree, EDO should never have been released in that state, it should have spent another six months in alpha IMHO, that four week pay-to-access alpha was just a cynical cash grab IMHO. Dropping VR was IMHO a. pauses to reword this lest mods do it for me, flawed, decision. But like most VR players, and in my and many other cases, VR ex-players, I agree that the game needs "fixed up" with performance issues addressed and missing content added, then commercially it needs to go to the console port, then hopefully we can get an improved implementation. It's really bad that after all these years the console players cannot fly with us master race [jesting] players, it's even worse that for nigh on a year now they are playing in their own little pocket universes on a client that is a full version behind the beta quality DLC we have access to.

However, that being said, if you do the mental arithmetic of framerates EDO is experiencing on highend PC hardware scaled down by the relative performance of console hardware, I'm guessing that a first person combat zone would be a First Person Slideshow rather than a First Person Shooter, so I understand the decision to defer console ports.
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Indeed,

but one year without nothing ? I mean could be the cry outs gets much more louder.

i mentioned that before, I think update 11 will hit according to them end of the week, therefore some bugfixes, and then silence mode running till FY 22 is ending. Because the numbers for the last FY are already counted, they lowered their salary and I think in this there is include the missing sells on consoles, after FY 22 is ending they will reconsider their complete plans including what is happening with consoles. Sad to say, but where is the problem to communicate this in this way? This would be open enough but without telling so much. Therefore especially the consoles knows a vague time frame and finally knows when decision are will really made. For now ? We just do know nothing, no information on any way, I mean they couldn’t confirm that EDO is still Planned for consoles, when this questions comes up, they talk around this and pointing to David brabens statement, on hold means for me, they do nothing with consoles at the moment, and according to this statements they will decide after the cleaning and releasing of new features on pc, what will happens with consoles. And this is simply vague.
 

[PS4 Pro - PC] earthtone99

[PS4 Pro - PC] earthtone99
Irrespective of the communication issue, I am really starting to lose interest in this game.

I’ve got so many new games to try out, the draw of ELITE Dangerous: Horizons on PS5 is no longer what it once was.

If Odyssey does come to console, one way for PlayStation to increase the potential sales revenue, would be to PSPlus ED: Horizons for a month and link in with the potential release of the Odyssey expansion for around £30.

I believe Xbox have already had ED on Gamepass, EPIC on PC gave ED: Horizons for free at one point too.
 

SasaThargoidsHunter

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[PS4-PS5] earthtone99 said:
Irrespective of the communication issue, I am really starting to lose interest in this game.

I’ve got so many new games to try out, the draw of ELITE Dangerous: Horizons on PS5 is no longer what it once was.

If Odyssey does come to console, one way for PlayStation to increase the potential sales revenue, would be to PSPlus ED: Horizons for a month and link in with the potential release of the Odyssey expansion for around £30.

I believe Xbox have already had ED on Gamepass, EPIC on PC gave ED: Horizons for free at one point too.
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To be honest, the game is constantly in sales and laid between 5-9 € that is really cheap, but yeah as an ps plus game it would gain some huge attention on it.
 

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_
SasaThargoidsHunter said:
Trying to sell no news as news is still weird. And it’s only a thing here in the forum to put this meaningless statement in every speculation about consoles. Meanwhile the whole world accepted that the current situation on consoles is awful but still some guys didn’t regonize it.

it’s like everybody pointed at an astroid which will surely hit the world, but there are still few peoples who blinded by the sun and explain everyone that there is no asteroid.

no offense too you specially, just an observation
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Console development is on hold aka Don't Look Up.
 

Snowymonk

Snowymonk
This will probably be my last post following the news that Frontier are ceasing all future development on consoles.
If anyone wants my stuff, it's parked at Cho Thua NL-C b40-0, in the lockers aboard my Fleet Carrier, parked just south of the Route 33 passage way to Beagle point.
In my time, I managed Triple Elite, bought every ship and took part in DW2, flying the great type-9.

I met some really great console commanders and thoroughly enjoyed my time racing SRVs around with the Misfits of Science.

Frontier have not been able to work out a way to soften the news by giving an olive branch of transferring across to PC.
I do not believe that it'll ever come and so I will log out.

Enjoy.
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
matbard said:
same thing they did with Mac version
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Nope, Mac isn't compatible with DX11. ED wasn't the only game affected.

However, I personally wouldn't bother getting the game on PC as I don't think it'll be long before finding myself in a similar situation there.

Odyssey seems to be a case of FDev shooting for the moon, missing and drifting through the stars waiting for the oxygen to run out.
 

sandkid

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Being right, even before the alpha finished, doesn't make it any better. I predicted this, called out Frontier - and its moderators - for declaring a former promise was still enough. What is infuriating isn't the pull-out of development.

It's the sheer audacity to lie for so long. It is my hope the business continues to crumble, as any business with such sorry ethics deserves. I don't harbor any ill will towards the PC playerbase. If anything, I feel sorry for them: this is the business you support. This is the sort of developer you heap praise on. 'Making the tough calls' that never should have come about in the first place.

I said it many times: Elite was not ready for EDO. It still is not. It was intentionally developed without console in mind, intentionally sold as a vision for multiple platforms, and intentionally launched incomplete for little more than short-term gains. Businesses are meant to make money, but this is a prime case study in poor business practices that focus on the short-term at the expense of future growth. The market's opinion of FDev casts this in stark relief. Your fortune is slipping through your fingers, Mr. Braben, but you don't seem to be asking the crucial question of why. Or, at the very least, are ignoring the answer to that question.

To this day, Frontier - and Braben - have yet to acknowledge this fiasco stems from horrific leadership and management. This is not a case of pushing boundaries and admitting defeat. Other companies of high standards would, and have, done so. This is the face of prideful disregard for the consumer and supporter in pursuit of little more than a 'vision' that cares little for what it sacrifices, in good faith and excitement, to drive profits. It is proof of faithlessness that the market rewards consistent, even-handed development and progress over short-term gains and gotcha-marketing schemes (like preorders for an ALPHA you don't remotely plan on learning from).

Doomed is the business that ignores ethics.

We throw that word around for fun in these forums - doom - but it seems oddly fitting now, doesn't it? As Elite continues to disintegrate in fun and excitement, I'm sure fleet carrier interiors - not ship and engineer balancing, not CQC development nor Powerplay development, not BGS expansion nor core feature improvements - will pave a bright future for the game. Update 11 will just be the next in a long line of updates steadily dooming this game.

I won't be buying a product from Frontier Developments again, nor supporting any of its partnerships. I'll be advising others to do the same, but beyond these forums of course. I'd offer my stuff to the illustrious @bottomhat or others keen on my departure, but sadly I have nothing to offer beyond my last words:

I told you so.
Enjoy your egg - on your face - in these trying times.

At least the community and its most well-known faces reflect the company, these past few months.
Uncaring. Weary. Cruel.
Spiteful.

Enjoy your Odyssey. The name is, increasingly, very fitting. Poseidon's lesson on suffering persists even now.
 

TatankaPrime

TatankaPrime
Like I replied in the announcement thread, I'm not surprised at this. Disappointed, but not surprised.

Trying to think of an appropriate place to park Hey Diddle Diddle for the last time.

Like Snowy, I too flew a Type-9 for DW2. Even had it fully loaded down with fleet supplies to make it more challenging (which if I recall, we dumped everything on top of someone's SRV and buried them in a crater at Beagle Point).

Given their track record so far, I'm not optimistic about a PC transfer, so I think I'll just cut my losses. I have so much engineer progress, CG rewards/decals, PP pledge time, discount purchased ships/modules, etc, I can't fathom doing it all over again from scratch on PC. Even though I have a PC that can handle ED, it was just nicer to play on console because it allowed me to spend more time with my chronically ill wife in a more comfortable environment.

Will just fly my beloved T9 cargo cow to a quiet crater this weekend and likely log off one last time.

It was a pleasure to occasionally bump into you, CMDRs. Fly safe! o7
 

[PS5] sound-fx

[PS5] sound-fx
They have turned themselves into a two-bit publisher - notice all the emails recently? Games I have never heard of and have no interest in. They should have focused on the game that made them.

I work in game dev and this demise happened to the company I work for, thankfully they stopped publishing and focused on their roots to great success.

Also, I can't believe I played Elite for a 1000 hours in 2020 in order to get ready for what I expected to be an amazing update when the new consoles dropped at the end of the year.... and bought shares. It WAS fun and I met some great squadron mates, but ahh well, live and learn, it's daft to speculate sometimes.

I might be interested to play on PC, if they offer a account transfer (only because I love my squadron mates, some have PC alts), but I already have a little played alt on PC. I'm sure transferring a PS to PC that already has an account won't go smooth.

Anyway... o7
 
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