No Single Player offline Mode then?

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Demosthien

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There's a distinct lack of empathy being demonstrated by people who are happy for the online only experience. All these kinds of comments are just a bit sad; "I only wanted online play.", or "Why would anyone want offline, that's boring.", or "How is it possible that anyone can not have internets?", and "Stop being all butthurt because you didn't get what you wanted. I wanted online pay and I'm happy.".

Perhaps those people should consider how they'd feel if the online connectivity had been dropped...
 

synchromesh

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-o- said:
I agree.

However at this stage the refund has not been offered, so all legal obligations have yet to be met.
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But it hasn't been refused either.....There is a link to request a refund.....My guess is its better to wait till you have an idea exactly how much it will all cost first.... You never know it may be cheaper to make a offline version :)
 

Titus Balls

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Cruel Coppinger said:
SKIDROW will fix this or some other group/collective.

Its inevitable.

"“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.” "
GABEN
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This might be the first game in history where trying to create a fake server for this game ends up bankrupting the pirates - or driving them mad.
 

vjek

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Binerexis said:
Not when you consider how much bigger E: D is an how necessary the servers are for the game to function.

For more information about this, check out this thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=59481
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The size of a single player offline galaxy, when procedurally generated, isn't relevant. That's the whole point of procedural generation.

I've read that thread, and again, there is no feature in the current game (nor planned for in the DDA/DDF) that either hasn't already been demonstrated in an existing Elite franchise game, or other similar game in the genre, completely offline. (barring player-to-player interactions)

It's remarkable that gamers have such a short memory. It was only 10 years ago that most games were offline single player. It was only 15 years ago that 99.9% of all games were offline single player.

Offline single player was the default from 1982-2002, at least. Every feature that FD is planning for E|D has been done or can be done, trivially, in an offline single player game. (barring player-to-player interactions)
 

adoredtv

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jamotide said:
Own goal, dude. Braben himself has said that piracy actually helped his company.

https://www.techdirt.com/blog/cases...d-games-now-new-business-model-embracer.shtml
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Yes it's true. Today Microsoft make literally billions due to turning a blind eye to piracy way back in the 80's.

Things have moved on a bit though and Elite is going to be "bought a lot" regardless. So I think it's good for starting a franchise but maybe not so much a bit later once you are actually established or have a captive audience.
 
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Mengy

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Binerexis said:
And Michael Brookes has said in this thread that with the game in its current state, it isn't possible. It may have been possible in the past but that is no longer the case.
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Just to clarify, Michael did not say it was impossible, his exact word was impractical. He did not clarify why except to say that an offline mode does not fit their vision for the game anymore.
 

Binerexis

Binerexis
vjek said:
It's remarkable that gamers have such a short memory. It was only 10 years ago that most games were offline single player. It was only 15 years ago that 99.9% of all games were offline single player.
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Can you name some that were the same size, scope and technical fidelity as E: D?
 

jamotide

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Demosthien said:
There's a distinct lack of empathy being demonstrated by people who are happy for the online only experience. All these kinds of comments are just a bit sad; "I only wanted online play.", or "Why would anyone want offline, that's boring.", or "How is it possible that anyone can not have internets?", and "Stop being all butthurt because you didn't get what you wanted. I wanted online pay and I'm happy.".

Perhaps those people should consider how they'd feel if the online connectivity had been dropped...
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They will be in a similar situation once running the servers isnt profitable anymore. Maybe someone else will be there then and say something like "im tired of the game anyway, so its ok".
 

Binerexis

Binerexis
Mengy said:
Just to clarify, Michael did not say it was impossible, his exact word was impractical. He did not clarify why except to say that an offline mode does not fit their vision for the game anymore.
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It was clarified here that they'd basically have to develop a whole new game just for offline mode.
 

NeoRacer

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At which time (probably 15-20 years hence) they will patch in code to make it an OFFLINE EXPERIENCE. By that time we will all still be playing this? Or something else? If 'you guys' wanna take down FD over this, none of us will be playing ANYTHING. I find that infuriating.

jamotide said:
They will be in a similar situation once running the servers isnt profitable anymore. Maybe someone else will be there then and say something like "im tired of the game anyway, so its ok".
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NeoRacer

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Really? So you wont be playing the best space combat sim for the last 25 years..your willing to ruin it for everyone because of some poxy offline mode that pirates/people who live in the middle of nowhere are whining about


mbpoblet said:
No, but their word clearly can't be trusted.
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Adept

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starbuck1771 said:
It already is cheaper because if they get sued they could lose everything because what they did is commit an act of fraud. If you are a U.S. citizen you can always file a complaint with the FBI and make this turn into a nightmare for Frontier.
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Hahahaha :D ok, this has got to be the thread winning post right here. Do you also chase ambulances in your spare time, and try to sue for a million in damages if you burn your tongue on a restaurants hot coffee?
 

SalsaDMA

SalsaDMA
Binerexis said:
It's been designed as intended as it was always intended to focus around online play. Offline play was an optional extra which became only possible at the detriment of the product as a whole.

If your hand is rotting, you can either cut it off to save your life or try to save your hand at the risk of dying from sepsis.
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Offline was part of the promised design goal of the project.

Your post changes nothing in this regard. You even make the assumption that things now are designed as it is designed was intended, in which case you are actively asuming that they never intended to fulfill the promise of persuing the design goals that they said they would (otherwise offline would be part of that design).

Are you sure you are aware of what you are saying?
 

Binerexis

Binerexis
Pulse said:
It absolutely can be done, it's just 'impractical' to quote the producer.

There is no reason why fd can't just put an offline version out, they just don't want to because of the way the game has been built thus far.
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It would take resources away from developing E: D in its current state, stalling or even halting development on it entirely. That's a pretty big reason.
 
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