No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Just as a warning to those denied a refund:
You have to prove you can't use the product to get a refund on it. Otherwise they will deny it. With the exception of just the pre-order, these don't count...
If you can sometimes play
just bought it to see what the game was like
that you don't like peer-to-peer
just decided that wasn't the game you thought...
or anything like that...
well... sorry from FD side but legally you don't have a valid reason to get a refund. You don't OWN the game, you never bought the game. You paid for a concept of a planned game that will come with a game in the future. But you didn't actually buy the game.
A refund in this case is based on the complete inability to play the game without the offline mode, OR your machine is so old you should never have owned the game (I know that was a problem with one of my friends). But to be honest, buying the Beta is saying you are paying FD to create a game based on FD ability, not your personal idea of how it should be done. That's pretty much it.
Not liking someones idea AFTER you paid for the idea is not a valid reason. That would make most products in the world get sued.
You have to prove you can't use the product to get a refund on it. Otherwise they will deny it. With the exception of just the pre-order, these don't count...
If you can sometimes play
just bought it to see what the game was like
that you don't like peer-to-peer
just decided that wasn't the game you thought...
or anything like that...
well... sorry from FD side but legally you don't have a valid reason to get a refund. You don't OWN the game, you never bought the game. You paid for a concept of a planned game that will come with a game in the future. But you didn't actually buy the game.
A refund in this case is based on the complete inability to play the game without the offline mode, OR your machine is so old you should never have owned the game (I know that was a problem with one of my friends). But to be honest, buying the Beta is saying you are paying FD to create a game based on FD ability, not your personal idea of how it should be done. That's pretty much it.
Not liking someones idea AFTER you paid for the idea is not a valid reason. That would make most products in the world get sued.
So you'd prefer an exploitable AI that allows you to farm the same route over and over?
Edit sorry that sounds so pointed...but playing eve as I do I find single player simulations of such things become incredibly boring in comparison.
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No, it's not forcing you - you're deciding to, by playing the game. I understand where you're coming from, Papa Smurf, I really do. And I admit, this business with the troll poet1960 has me on edge. But nevertheless, this is the way the game has developed, and it is a bit of a lottery where game dev goes, especially for titles which are pushing the boundaries of what can be done with today's tech.
I hope that we can continue this conversation without further inflammation from people who are nothing to do with this. Emotions are high enough, and feelings inflamed enough, without people coming in to just see how angry they can make people.
I hope that we can continue this conversation without further inflammation from people who are nothing to do with this. Emotions are high enough, and feelings inflamed enough, without people coming in to just see how angry they can make people.
Complete agreement.
Thnx ecgallagher - and you too bog - for your kindness and courtesy. This may just mean Commander Johnson gets to ride witch space again
Any day now, we are expecting riots here in Oakland, when the Grand Jury in Ferguson, MO. decides whether the officer who shot the black teen should be indicted.
Most will protest peacefully, many will pillage and loot. Those causing trouble are predominantly from outside the community. They come in to incite civil unrest.
They don't give a damn about the the issues being protested, but they make the whole group look bad.
It is not as extreme but it is happening on these forums and it makes those with legitimate complaints look bad.
I am not personally pointing the finger at any one individual.
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I would tend to agree with that except for one thing, they don't really seem to give darn about the people anyway, so looking good or bad isn't helping or hurting one bit.
I got nothing against limiting this forum/thread to people who supported/bought/etc a copy of ED. Realistically I am SHOCKED that FD has allowed this to go on this long without doing something... no damage control, no statements, etc, etc.
They are not only losing face here but this is spreading to other "non-elite" boards.
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No it's been answered, you just didn't like the answer
This is simple, they aren't going to change their mind. The reason for which is almost certainly that it would take many more months to get offline mode ready. They just aren't going to do it at least "short term". Maybe in an expansion, who knows, but definitely not in the original release.
So, you're saying that when Theodrid asks MB "F: D are not going to put out an official statement about this beyond what has already been said?", that the response, "The decision was made so that we could focus on getting the game done and to match what we desired from the game - so of course we're continuing with work." is an answer?
Sorry, but I see absolutely nothing in his reply that addresses the question about will FD make an official statement.
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Mods are the same the world over - always the voice of reason - or giving you the reason to button it up lol.
Seriously I post on Australian rules football forums and political forums and while you may be dismayed by the lack of respect some show here you would be horrified by our political forums.
Seriously I post on Australian rules football forums and political forums and while you may be dismayed by the lack of respect some show here you would be horrified by our political forums.
Let's just for a second ignore the offline problem itself.
Was I really the only one who had great hopes for the future of the game because an offline version would have been mod-able?
I thought that the community would come up with amazing mods that would take the responsibility a little bit away from the devs, because in the end everything would be possible.
Now that this happend we ended up with a system like WOW, where the only new content has to come from Frontier
Was I really the only one who had great hopes for the future of the game because an offline version would have been mod-able?
I thought that the community would come up with amazing mods that would take the responsibility a little bit away from the devs, because in the end everything would be possible.
Now that this happend we ended up with a system like WOW, where the only new content has to come from Frontier
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To be fair the way we talk and debate issues in Australia among mates would shock a lot of people.
Well said. And this is nothing compared to what will happen when the servers crash and burn on release. Frontier Developments has killed Elite.
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