Because the only possible reaction to the news is a 5000 post thread of rage, and people trying to be helpful or conciliatory aren't welcome? The choice of the phrase "White knight" is an interesting one as well.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Because the only possible reaction to the news is a 5000 post thread of rage, and people trying to be helpful or conciliatory aren't welcome? The choice of the phrase "White knight" is an interesting one as well.
I understand all what you wrote .... but as you say, the Younger/Allways Online Generation (because I think even some older will think so...
...),didn´t see the problem, and maybe didn´t see that sometimes RL is more important than a Game.... Yes Offline means also real possibility to PAUSE a Game ... not to stop Solo with a Cargo full of Gold, and 1h later the price fall down.... or a NPC Fight...real offline can be paused.Everyone that has been a kickstarter/alpha/beta are able to post here so logically anyone posting in this forum have been happily playing the game since their own pledge date,, the fact that you have all been playing proves that your internet connections are good enough to play the game, so what has changed with this no offline thing ? seeing as you have all been playing since pledge level, so you will still be able to play and have ( no people in your game ) with offline but connected to the server mode, and if you want both npcs AND people in your game you can have that as well, same as it is now in beta.
Really dont understand the panic and whining going on in here, ask for a refund if your unhappy.
Really dont understand the panic and whining going on in here, ask for a refund if your unhappy.
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Please don't make generalizations based on age. Been gaming for a very long time (I just turned 52) and enjoy playing both online and offline games. Though I stay away from certain genres.
I respect and understand your position. I hope you decide to stay and at least play Solo Online. I am sorry your friend will be unable to enjoy Elite. Still holding out hope that FD somehow is able to rectify the situation.
Years. Almost two decades. All those times, starting in the late nineties, when I would search on Altavista for interviews to David Braben, looking for any news related to Frontier, any speculation, any clue, no matter how flimsy, on a sequel to Frontier: First Encounters. All those years during which the very concept of an Elite IV was listed on Wikipedia as "vaporware", about as likely to ever manifest itself as the fabled "Thargoid ship in the center of the galaxy", and yet I kept hoping, I kept checking for updates and news, not every day mind you, and not every week either, perhaps not even every month, but that tiny glimmer of hope was always alive, and every now and then, when I found myself in a quiet moment sitting at the computer with nothing much to do (and oh, how few and far between did those precious moments become as I moved from Secondary School to University and eventually to a full time job and a wife), I would perform again that ancient ritual, going through fan sites, sieving through pages I'd already read at least a dozen times, only to find nothing and go back to playing FE2 or FFE, even in the years before DosBox, when you had to really get creative to work around that pesky "insufficient memory" problem.
Honestly, I didn't think anything in the world could make me reconsider on playing the next chapter of the gaming saga I fell in love with when I was barely nine years old, a game I had been anticipating for practically half of the time I've been alive, but you, dear Frontier Developments, have managed to do just that. This is part of the reason I no longer play games much: sure, wife and work take up most of my time, but even when I do manage to carve a two-hour niche for a little me-time, I usually end up doing other stuff. Why? Because the gaming industry has largely turned its back to people like me, people who like to *own* a game when they spend their hard earned cash for it, people who seek an immersive experience that at no point involves the presence of "ZazzyDawg98" and his friends, people who don't care about "achievements" or "collectibles", people who actually have fun breaking the game with cheats after they've beaten it (yeah, sue me), people who expect a game to stay the way it is the moment they bought it and not change over time because a group of players the existence of whom you will never ever be aware of (unless you spend about as much time arguing on the forums as you do playing) complained that "drop rate is too low/high!", "farming is too easy/hard!", "my class is too disadvantaged!", "weapon X is too overpowered!", while you liked everything just the way it was. People who enjoy gaming because it offers them the possibility to detach from the real world and all its troubles for a few hours, and who, therefore, strongly resent the real world intruding into their gaming experience.
Will I ask for a refund? I don't know yet. What I do know is that, had I not purchased the game yet, had I not been waiting for it for all those years, I would rather buy another copy of Skyrim (for the record, I already own four: PC, PS3, XBox, Anthology) than spend even a single cent over a game that forces me to be online, especially if this requirement had been divulged less than a month before its release, and after over a year in which we had been reassured that there would be an offline mode. I don't like to make decisions when I am angry. I will cool down, I will think things through, then I will decide. But honestly Mr Braben, I thought you were better than that. You let a lot of people down, hard.
Honestly, I didn't think anything in the world could make me reconsider on playing the next chapter of the gaming saga I fell in love with when I was barely nine years old, a game I had been anticipating for practically half of the time I've been alive, but you, dear Frontier Developments, have managed to do just that. This is part of the reason I no longer play games much: sure, wife and work take up most of my time, but even when I do manage to carve a two-hour niche for a little me-time, I usually end up doing other stuff. Why? Because the gaming industry has largely turned its back to people like me, people who like to *own* a game when they spend their hard earned cash for it, people who seek an immersive experience that at no point involves the presence of "ZazzyDawg98" and his friends, people who don't care about "achievements" or "collectibles", people who actually have fun breaking the game with cheats after they've beaten it (yeah, sue me), people who expect a game to stay the way it is the moment they bought it and not change over time because a group of players the existence of whom you will never ever be aware of (unless you spend about as much time arguing on the forums as you do playing) complained that "drop rate is too low/high!", "farming is too easy/hard!", "my class is too disadvantaged!", "weapon X is too overpowered!", while you liked everything just the way it was. People who enjoy gaming because it offers them the possibility to detach from the real world and all its troubles for a few hours, and who, therefore, strongly resent the real world intruding into their gaming experience.
Will I ask for a refund? I don't know yet. What I do know is that, had I not purchased the game yet, had I not been waiting for it for all those years, I would rather buy another copy of Skyrim (for the record, I already own four: PC, PS3, XBox, Anthology) than spend even a single cent over a game that forces me to be online, especially if this requirement had been divulged less than a month before its release, and after over a year in which we had been reassured that there would be an offline mode. I don't like to make decisions when I am angry. I will cool down, I will think things through, then I will decide. But honestly Mr Braben, I thought you were better than that. You let a lot of people down, hard.
Thanks, that was helpful. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/member.php?u=2 and click on Michael Brookes for any other people interested.
The issue that many of us have is that we pledged a lot of money because we were under the impression the game would still be playable if Frontier Development ever went down the pan.
They want to play the game 30 years in the future from now...lol (30years from now we'll probs be in holodeck style gaming environments or in my case most likely dead)
Also intellectual property and giving away the source code to hackers/mods does not worry them it seems.
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There is no logical connection here. I have not played the game yet, because I was waiting for the finished drm free product that I payed for.
To be fair some of the more reactionary rage has been met with the same level of reactionary ejection of their right to be upset.
I guess its Newton's fault, in gaming forums where there is 'unbridled rage' there will be the 'white knight' in defence. Opposite & equal reactions and all that.
That's a really crappy attitude to have about the thing. Sorry.
I am online most of the time, that does not mean that I want to play online most of the time. I have a 6 week old son who demands immediate attention. If I can't pause a game wherever I am and continue from there the chances aren't great that I will actually play the game and finish it, or enjoy all of my time playing it.
Sometimes people go on holiday and would like to take a game with to play, or go overseas, or their Internet line goes down. That should not affect your ability to play a game. Offline mode was promised, and some semblance of that should be delivered. Alternatively they should apologize heavily and reward / refund those who may have bought the game for that reason.
Its this for me. I feel like I pledged a heck of a lot of money for a game I will never own. I wish Frontier would get this - I think this is why so many original backers backed the game and why they said Offline Mode was so important to their decision.
Sorry but it's not on the same level... not even remotely.
Sorry that i cant find it now but i saw Micheal answer this concern a day ago, i cannot remember the exact words but it was to the effect that if FD ever went down they would make sure that we would still be able to play it.
Can't believe I am reading this on a ELITE forum. This game was initially financed by people who still play the original game which is around 30 years old.
You might be happy with playing it for a short while, then throwing it away and never thinking about it again, but other people don't discard their favourite games like this.
I have one little more to consider...what if you make REAL HOLIDAY say for 4 weeks???...than maybe all change in the Galaxy ...and if you say no all will be slower,than the Contentplayer will very upset....
I really only want to show that there much more "legal" reasons for Offline ...
Seriously? Use the search function or sit down with a coffee and do some reading. I'm not your secretary
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=59481
Here you go.
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phila
Not wholly the case, as many could be posting on the forums with mobile phones, but have no connection to be able to play games.
You can criticise Frontier - I have many times in the past.
Threats and intimidation however are not cool and there is lots of that going on in this thread
So what your saying that I am ok sod everyone else, sorry but it doesn't work like that. If not enough copies are bought then the servers wont last long, you lose your money and wont be able to play it even when you have your internet!
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