Thank you for the reply.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Thank you for the reply.
Tweeted this to D.B. yesterday...
Y'know, I would GLADLY hand over more money for this and please read all of the text and think before replying
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A version of Frontier: Elite II (let's call it for the sake of calling it something "Frontier: Elite II-A" [for Adavanced]), based on the COBRA engine.
You could probably take bits and pieces from what FDEV have done for ED and use that as a base. Bung in some PG goodness that was used in the original, and so on.
Develop it as a seperate project after ED is released of course. Keep ED the way it is without an offline mode, and there you have it - you'll have your offline version of Elite with updated graphics and something resembling Elite II that people like me have been hoping for.
I don't know if this would be everyone else's idea of a compromise, but for me personally it would be.
Rgds.
Y'know, I would GLADLY hand over more money for this and please read all of the text and think before replying
...A version of Frontier: Elite II (let's call it for the sake of calling it something "Frontier: Elite II-A" [for Adavanced]), based on the COBRA engine.
You could probably take bits and pieces from what FDEV have done for ED and use that as a base. Bung in some PG goodness that was used in the original, and so on.
Develop it as a seperate project after ED is released of course. Keep ED the way it is without an offline mode, and there you have it - you'll have your offline version of Elite with updated graphics and something resembling Elite II that people like me have been hoping for.
I don't know if this would be everyone else's idea of a compromise, but for me personally it would be.
Rgds.
From that link:
Wow.
I know he's talking about a different, hypothetical, game, but he really doesn't exude confidence in Elite: Dangerous' "VISION™" and networking model...
And that was just a month ago...
Edit: Very interesting find, by the way. I'd give you rep, but the forum won't let me yet, sorry.
Dude... Mike is talkin about a Frontier style _fully_newtonian_ game there. We know many of the features of Elite (like the top speed and later supercruise) were created around the needs of being a p2p networked MMO. Seriously guys...
I'd like to nominate this as post of the day
Seconded
First time post by one of the kickstarters.
As a lawyer and a citizen of EU I will use every legal way available to get a TOTAL offline mode in the game I already payed for (the only reason I want the game is to play it by myself without any interference by other humans) or if that proves to be impossible a refund.
I will not visit this forum anymore.
Regards,
JF
As a lawyer and a citizen of EU I will use every legal way available to get a TOTAL offline mode in the game I already payed for (the only reason I want the game is to play it by myself without any interference by other humans) or if that proves to be impossible a refund.
I will not visit this forum anymore.
Regards,
JF
Y'know, I would GLADLY hand over more money for this and please read all of the text and think before replying
A version of Frontier: Elite II (let's call it for the sake of calling it something "Frontier: Elite II-A" [for Adavanced]), based on the COBRA engine.
You could probably take bits and pieces from what FDEV have done for ED and use that as a base. Bung in some PG goodness that was used in the original, and so on.
Develop it as a seperate project after ED is released of course. Keep ED the way it is without an offline mode, and there you have it - you'll have your offline version of Elite with updated graphics and something resembling Elite II that people like me have been hoping for.
I don't know if this would be everyone else's idea of a compromise, but for me personally it would be.
Rgds.
I'd buy it.
Y'know, I would GLADLY hand over more money for this and please read all of the text and think before replying
A version of Frontier: Elite II (let's call it for the sake of calling it something "Frontier: Elite II-A" [for Adavanced]), based on the COBRA engine.
You could probably take bits and pieces from what FDEV have done for ED and use that as a base. Bung in some PG goodness that was used in the original, and so on.
Develop it as a seperate project after ED is released of course. Keep ED the way it is without an offline mode, and there you have it - you'll have your offline version of Elite with updated graphics and something resembling Elite II that people like me have been hoping for.
I don't know if this would be everyone else's idea of a compromise, but for me personally it would be.
Rgds.
I've already handed money over for something like that, it was impractical and pulled in the 11th hour, currently deciding on getting a refund, and attempting to show FD they miscalculated on the cost/backlash analysis.
in black and white - could be on to something here
quote from forum member '-0-' earlier...;
DB: Things are too quiet. We really need something to get the media excited about just before our launch next weekend.
MB: Well, we still have a few hundred mugs we can send out to them.
DB: No .. No .. We need to try something explosive .. something dangerous.
MB: Theres no way I am getting in that g-string again!
DB: In Fridays newsletter, I want you to slip in something quietly that will ruffle a few feathers.
MB: Ahhhhhh .. the Thargoids awaken .. I like it.
DB: No, Sweenys still struggling with their HOTAS grip.
DB: We need to break them down, before we can build them up.
MB: Huh?
DB: You sir, may be a imaginative writer, but your blind to your dark side. We tell them that something has been pulled ... umm, like that offline version.
DB: Then we sit back and wait.
MB: But we finished implementing that offline module even before the Beta started. Thats why we never tested it.
DB: Yes, but they don't know that. Then we sit back and enjoy the show.
MB: But that will be a disaster which will cause irreparable damage.
DB: Normally it would, but I have recently aquired a rather unique shinny artifact which can work PR miracles.
DB: Once a fews days have passed, the BBC will get aboard, and whip them into a frenzy, ready for us to strike!
DB: I can even get Drew to prepare a story on the disaster.
DB: <evil laugh> Our own private War of the Worlds!
DB: With the world's media attention focussed on us, at the official launch we announce a sincere apology and ask our loyal backers for forgiveness.
DB: We then inform them that we, through our own personal funds, will work night and day to ressurect the offline version before Christmas.
DB: We will be lauded beyond belief, and will be seen as Legends. You might also be knighted yourself, or at the very least be delivered a truckload of pizza.
MB: Thats so crazy, it might work.
DB: It is destined to work my dear fellow. Now get to work ... we have history to make.
genius post, -O-
can't plus 1 but have one public instead
quote from forum member '-0-' earlier...;
DB: Things are too quiet. We really need something to get the media excited about just before our launch next weekend.
MB: Well, we still have a few hundred mugs we can send out to them.
DB: No .. No .. We need to try something explosive .. something dangerous.
MB: Theres no way I am getting in that g-string again!
DB: In Fridays newsletter, I want you to slip in something quietly that will ruffle a few feathers.
MB: Ahhhhhh .. the Thargoids awaken .. I like it.
DB: No, Sweenys still struggling with their HOTAS grip.
DB: We need to break them down, before we can build them up.
MB: Huh?
DB: You sir, may be a imaginative writer, but your blind to your dark side. We tell them that something has been pulled ... umm, like that offline version.
DB: Then we sit back and wait.
MB: But we finished implementing that offline module even before the Beta started. Thats why we never tested it.
DB: Yes, but they don't know that. Then we sit back and enjoy the show.
MB: But that will be a disaster which will cause irreparable damage.
DB: Normally it would, but I have recently aquired a rather unique shinny artifact which can work PR miracles.
DB: Once a fews days have passed, the BBC will get aboard, and whip them into a frenzy, ready for us to strike!
DB: I can even get Drew to prepare a story on the disaster.
DB: <evil laugh> Our own private War of the Worlds!
DB: With the world's media attention focussed on us, at the official launch we announce a sincere apology and ask our loyal backers for forgiveness.
DB: We then inform them that we, through our own personal funds, will work night and day to ressurect the offline version before Christmas.
DB: We will be lauded beyond belief, and will be seen as Legends. You might also be knighted yourself, or at the very least be delivered a truckload of pizza.
MB: Thats so crazy, it might work.
DB: It is destined to work my dear fellow. Now get to work ... we have history to make.
genius post, -O-
can't plus 1 but have one public instead
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You can still play solo JF, if that's whats important to you that's a viable play style, you can do it already.
The lack of anyone caring is strong with this one.
I'll be after a refund thanks. Fed up with the online only titles, relying on Steam or Virgin Media as to whether I can enjoy games I have paid for.
I assume refunds will be readily available otherwise I can see it getting messy
I assume refunds will be readily available otherwise I can see it getting messy
you still belive in an working LT Release? With a working economy? Created by a one-man-show?
What the are you smoking?
If it were a loss making company we wouldn't be having this conversation! Over the last year or so the numbers have been skewed due to investment in ED, but they are in no way a repeatedly loss making company..
Christ this thread is getting silly ...
I wish I could shake your hand, I really do. Thank you for a well written post that pretty much sums up what many of us old timers feel. If I were a moderator, I'd make a sticky out of it. I really wish all the people who insist on defending this awful decision would at least try to make the effort to understand the things you just wrote: that for us, the magic of Elite was that it was a personal experience, a private science fiction epic that owed a lot of its magic to the fact that it was, as you so touchingly explained, "the only true space in my life that was truly mine (all mine!) and the only place that at this point (or that point) in my life I could affect or influence in any meaningful way, it was my escape, it was selfish but it was mine and I was the only one watching and the only damn one in it".
Devestated
I have waited for this from the first time I launcged from Lave all thos years ago. I feel cheated that they have pulled the off line scenario. I dont want to have to keep dodging intent on shooting me up as I trade my way through the galaxy as I did in the original Elite.
Seriuously upset I parted with my money as I never believed such a basic off-line requirement be ditched.
Lesson learned Mr Braben, lesson learned, I no longer trust you or anyone else on kickstarter.
I have waited for this from the first time I launcged from Lave all thos years ago. I feel cheated that they have pulled the off line scenario. I dont want to have to keep dodging intent on shooting me up as I trade my way through the galaxy as I did in the original Elite.
Seriuously upset I parted with my money as I never believed such a basic off-line requirement be ditched.
Lesson learned Mr Braben, lesson learned, I no longer trust you or anyone else on kickstarter.
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