Again, I suspect FD legal have been all over this. I had a conversation on another thread about the fine line between DRM and an online service. It's entirely possible FD could supply a DRM free disc with ED client on that you can freely install on any machine you are legally entitled to and yet the client be useless without a connection to FD's servers.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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No need, always-on release days have all been desasters, this will be no different. It simply is not profitable to buy excess server capacity just for one day.
lol, or an empty disk right? No, the reward doesnt say DRM free edition of random crap, it says Elite Danherous.
i would agree that it was naive - a mixture of underestimating the needed resources, which means bad management, blinded by enthusiasm and then crowned by clumsy communication
a string of failures, which is probably not so easy to admit
maybe that new for you...it called Smartphone...and it unbelieveble....you can go in Forum with it....really...and all works as promised by Android/Samsung
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I don't think there'll be such problems. The only ones I foresee are with any remaining bugs within the game and the server getting stressed with so many people trying to play at once.
Well, call me crazy, but when I purchase a product, I certainly don't want to depend on some capricious external source for it to work. If I buy a product I expect it to work until it either breaks or I die. Would you buy a vacuum cleaner that will only run as long as the dealer is in business? Makes no sense to me.
True enough. But KS is not a store and you don't buy a product you back an idea.
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Again, I feel sorry for those whom really needed offline, I suspect the majority actually don't need offline, they want offline. Reasons like "when the internet is down", "if the servers are offline", "if FD shut the servers", "if I want to mod" have been bandied around. For those I have less sympathy. It's development, FD set design goal in good faith, it appears they made good faith attempts to fulfil those goals but when you have two goals that are in conflict you can't not make a decision, you have to pick one or the other. FD did, I don't think we should pillory them for doing a difficult job.
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The world would grind to a halt if everyone was held to every promise they ever made - "I'm just out for one drink love", "I won't forget our anniversary dear" etc. Sometimes, despite everyone's best efforts, things don't work out how they were planned and you just have to make the best of it.
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I thought the same thing yesterday evening. The thing is, more backers turn up who have just found out the awful truth. I believe this will continue.
You might think FD would have the common sense & courtesy to send out an email to all backers explaining the situation. At least that way they won't have a bunch of people on the 16th of December beside themselves with rage because they only found out when they came to actually play the game.
Replace "BUT I WANT IT!"
With "But you promised it'd be there and asked me for money to make it happen." then you'll be more accurate.
I agree as far as the majority of backers go, but FD already has their money. Unless the plan is to coast ahead on fumes, running the company on sales of ship skins and bobbleheads until the sale of the next DLC, they need to bring in new players who didn't back the game or buy pre-orders. Just waiting on the fence to see how the game turns out on release.
You don't think the media exposure over this mess has any impact on those potential customers? I don't think we've even seen the worst of the media wave, since the news of refused refunds hasn't percolated very far yet. There was a tacit assumption in most of the first media reports that refunds would be possible, on a different scale than what we're actually seeing.
The sledgehammer T&C denial of refunds may be legal (although maybe not impervious to chargebacks), but is it really the best move they could be making, when they need to attract new sales after Dec. 16?
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Ha! Of course. But did you even read this thread? As far as I can tell, most of the anger is about feeling deceived (and rightly so.) My money is on Yes - there will be someone or a few out there so jilted that DDOS is a practical inevitability. Not that I condone it mind you, I just know how bitter geeks and nerds can be.
So long as there are VISIONARY thought fills the threads....
So no itunes then. What about amazon kindle?
It's common for products not to work when the manufacturer goes pop, parts become harder to get, if you're lucky someone may pick up old stock and continue to sell it but not always. Good luck trying to find parts for a gas fire more than a few years old (i've tried several times)
The change was not made to enforce DRM and the requirement to be online is not to enforce that either hence it is not a scam to push DRM on those not wanting it.
That's like saying the purpose of a wheel on a car is to produce centrifugal force.
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Again, kickstarter has terms, accountability. FD is legally required to fulfill the pledge rewards, which are DRM free editions or issue refunds.
Kickstarter would grind to a halt if creators could promise anything and not be held accountable. "sure it will be drm free, just give us money"
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