No Single Player offline Mode then?

[Virgil Kyle]

Because that then becomes another product we have to create and support and that just isn't possible. We have considered many alternatives to see if we could make this work, but unfortunately this is what we've had to do.

Michael

First of all, this post is not meant as an attack. I believe many of us here understand your reasoning for deciding as you did on this issue, as I know I do. However, as someone who was looking forward to playing offline-only (luckily, unlike many others, I am not limited to offline-only - it is merely my preference), I think the timing of the announcement is perhaps more troubling than the announcement itself. How long ago was this decision made? Perhaps more importantly, at which point was scrapping plans for 'offline-only' the option being favored? If I had heard this announcement months ago, I would not be as disgruntled as I am now. If you and the folks at FD can truly say you were very seriously considering still developing 'offline-only' up until very recently, then I guess I can accept it and move on. Otherwise, the timing of releasing this bombshell a month from release, and a week (!) from Gamma, is really upsetting.

Again, I'm not trying to attack you guys or anything, but the timing is really what sticks in my craw...

 

[Tim Wheatley]

Geez, so much angst for something rather trivial. Looking at the game and what i've played and the size of it all it was rather obvious to me that offline play was something dubious to say the least, with everything trending towards running in the cloud now a days are any of you really so surprised?

After being repeatedly told how it would work by devs, up until today - one month prior to release - why yes, I am.

 

[Erna Jedermann]

Now after reading in other Post that they can´t await that the SUPER Version comes out .... I feel more Sad.
Especially if I in General like this Beta, but with out off line it will not be Elite.
I think I will try:http://www.ffeartpage.com/index.htm ....
Keep in mind that they maybe wll also Cut the Solo mode .... because they Focus to Make the Multiplayer Base happy...and I found now another Solo mode Killer....Star Citizen didn´t have or plan one.
Alos all the Lag which come from Solo .... also viceversa ....

I really be sad and I will check here ... maybe in 1 Year or shorter they make change there Decision.... but I will not play Solo and even don´t Test anymore. For what ????
The Multplayer didn´t pay me .... and for me the Game is meanless,

Fly Safe ...

 

[zhaith]

You're correct. I've never seen the 100% offline mode in the Beta and this sort of invalidates the rage of many here.

Thats because it's never been in beta, or alpha, the point is it was once of the original aspects of the KS campaign and the alpha/beta, and a lot of people paid out a lot of money for this feature alone, how many of them would have shelled out money for a game that they knew was online only but do not have the ability to play it online. Currently all they have done is paid out money in good faith to pay the development costs of a game they can't access.

 

[Skeloton]

Redacted.

As for me, Im laid back. I will either take my money back or have what was advertised.

 

[Thoragon]

They didn't say that.

They said they couldn't make the gameplay they advertised with it....they really tried.

So unfortunately scrapped it and it's hurt them.

Anyone who can't now play it should be due a refund IMO.

I don't see what is so weird in what I'm saying.

I, for one, agree with you.

 

[Tim Wheatley]

You're correct. I've never seen the 100% offline mode in the Beta and this sort of invalidates the rage of many here.

I guess because I haven't seen planetary landings I should assume those won't happen either, despite the videos, posts and information released during and after the Kickstarter.

 

[Toxic_Waster]

How? because it never existed in Beta people were to already know it wasn't EVER going to exist? I atleast was under the guise the online requirement was necessary as for data gathering to improve and continue development of ED. Which is why I never questioned the offlines existence.

Yes. The company can't be held accountable for the future development. It's the same as trying to convict a person for the future crimes. It's totally up to the company to decide what features will be added to the game or what to be exempt. Keep in mind they made their decision based on the commercial interest. The may have miscalculated, but it remains for us to see. The offline market may be too narrow for them to focus their development efforts at this point.

 

[666JTK666]

I am a latecomer to Elite D , the deciding feature for me was the promised solo offline option. So I pitched $75.00 into the ring and wow boy was that a total waste of my money. All I want now is my $$ back. Has anyone successfully done it yet ? what procedure did you use? did you need to dispute the charge with your bank or card company?

check out the developing game "Limit Theory" http://ltheory.com/

 

[Toxic_Waster]

I guess because I haven't seen planetary landings I should assume those won't happen either, despite the videos, posts and information released during and after the Kickstarter.

It all depends whether they have funds to deliver this. Planetary interaction is like a totally different game. The idea of having the game framework where other games could be plugged in is totally unprecedented and revolutionary. I hope everything works out for FD in the best way possible.

 

[Skeloton]

I am a latecomer to Elite D , the deciding feature for me was the promised solo offline option. So I pitched $75.00 into the ring and wow boy was that a total waste of my money. All I want now is my $$ back. Has anyone successfully done it yet ? what procedure did you use? did you need to dispute the charge with your bank or card company?
This always online for single player games has got to be discouraged and put down hard like a diseased animal.
The only folks that want online play are the Dbag pvp crowd, I refuse to be victimized just to make your game fun pvp'rs.

Ive not seen anyone claim to be successful. Though that Michael fellow offered up a link somewhere in the newsletter thread.

 

[Zieman]

I am a latecomer to Elite D , the deciding feature for me was the promised solo offline option. So I pitched $75.00 into the ring and wow boy was that a total waste of my money. All I want now is my $$ back. Has anyone successfully done it yet ? what procedure did you use? did you need to dispute the charge with your bank or card company?
This always online for single player games has got to be discouraged and put down hard like a diseased animal.
The only folks that want online play are the Dbag pvp crowd, I refuse to be victimized just to make your game fun pvp'rs.

Hey, you can play Solo online too. Or in a private group. So you won't be victimized by PvPers and you don't need a refund.

 

[ssg]

I am a latecomer to Elite D , the deciding feature for me was the promised solo offline option. So I pitched $75.00 into the ring and wow boy was that a total waste of my money. All I want now is my $$ back. Has anyone successfully done it yet ? what procedure did you use? did you need to dispute the charge with your bank or card company?
This always online for single player games has got to be discouraged and put down hard like a diseased animal.
The only folks that want online play are the Dbag pvp crowd, I refuse to be victimized just to make your game fun pvp'rs.

You could ask FD. I personally will wait and see what happens before doing something rash.

 

[zelda_n64]

My mate who does not have any internet connection & who has pre-ordered this game using the local library computers is going to be really peeved.

I will try & get off him an old article in a magazine as he only pre-ordered the game as the article stated offline mode and he was so excited that he would be able to play the new elite, something we have both waited 30 years to do.

He probably won't believe me when I tell him Saturday morning but for one he will be shocked, gutted and extremely angry/annoyed. And to be honest even though I am lucky to have a good internet connection, I too would have liked to have played it whilst on business trips offline.

FD should bring out the promised offline game because it was advertised - something my mate bought into, totally disappointing to say the least & should a developer really [redacted]off the generation that were there supporting the original game in the 80's (or anyone for that matter).

 

[Skeloton]

Hey, you can play Solo online too. Or in a private group. So you won't be victimized by PvPers and you don't need a refund.

Yeah read the 3rd line. Hes not after Always-Online Solo gameplay.

 

[Quietman]

Geez, so much angst for something rather trivial. Looking at the game and what i've played and the size of it all it was rather obvious to me that offline play was something dubious to say the least, with everything trending towards running in the cloud now a days are any of you really so surprised?

Trivial? So the fact that I will not be able to play the game is trivial? Of course it is trivial to you, because it doesn't affect you.

If it did effect you, let me guess, it wouldn't be "Geez, so much angst for something rather trivial." it would be more like "Geez, I have so much angst because I can't play the game over something rather trivial."?

This is not directed at you personally, but more the general tone from the "other camp" and especially the trolls and uninformed with all the answers:

Here is a word and here is a link, do they apply to any of you?

Schadenfreude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

 

[Del-Dredd]

As mentioned in the newsletter thread the game has changed a lot since the initial kickstarter. One of the biggest changes is the importance of the the offline component to manage the galaxy and interactions. This isn't something we can translate into an offline experience as we'd effectively have to make a new game world - we couldn't share the same world and that throws out the intent for a shared universe.

Michael

I do not think anybody playing offline would be bothered one jot about sharing their universe anyway.
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The main issue and problem is such a large change in what People were promised and paid money for, is dropped without any previous warning or information.
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All we get is small aside in a bunch of PR waffle and no apology whatsoever for removing a promised core component.

 

[Zieman]

Yeah read the 3rd line. Hes not after Always-Online Solo gameplay.

Did read, failed to understand on 1st try. I stand corrected.

 

[gravityztr]

yeah it sucks if they dont make it an offline game ...

elite 4 should be the epic next installment of the elite franchise, a follow up of the previous game... therefore there should be the ability to see places, landscapes, and such... and have a game that you launch and play from your desktop without an internet reliability. yes multiplayer can be an awesome experiences , that has all this galaxy into the server, and people join in from there, but i would also magnify myself at the idea of launching a single player game, seeing the galaxy opens, and all those systems far beyond the frontier getting generated randomly. then having a huge world with things happening dynamically like a system being in famine, or some local factions is teaming up with you and offering you a sort of campaign missions to improve their services... etc.

even a space newspaper could be read , and you could see oh the tension has increased into X system, making that it is engorges with police and military, etc...

all this could also happens and be generated into a single player game, without internet ^^... anyways

 

[Skeloton]

Did read, failed to understand on 1st try. I stand corrected.

Least you can stand. Damn dog ran off with me leg.