In truth it doesn’t matter to me, I’ll just mod in the others 
North african or south african crested porcupine?
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If I had to choose from the two African species, I would pick the Cape over the North African, primarily because they are the species I am most familiar with.
If extended to all crested porcupines, the Indian is my favourite choice - they would be able to use the grassland, desert, temperate and tropical biomes (the Cape would be restricted to desert and grassland, while the North African may also get temperate), and they are able to live in some pretty impressive mixed enclosures (although the same could be said of the Cape porcupine as well):
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If extended to all crested porcupines, the Indian is my favourite choice - they would be able to use the grassland, desert, temperate and tropical biomes (the Cape would be restricted to desert and grassland, while the North African may also get temperate), and they are able to live in some pretty impressive mixed enclosures (although the same could be said of the Cape porcupine as well):
Camel and Porcupine overview - ZooChat
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As a European Player myself I can say European Representation is no longer a Priority, so I want the Indian Crested Porcupine myself. Western Asia/Middle East is seriously lacking. Plus if you consider Turkey part of both Europe and Asia, that's 2 Continents ticked off right there. They are also the most common, of all 3, in European Zoos.
Actually a lot of European Zoos mix Meerkats and other South African Animals with Indian Crested Porcupines, with the Indian Porcupine representing a Cape Porcupine, similar to how the Amur Leopard is sometimes used in African Areas. This isn't to say I don't respect your Opinion, just putting it out there. Personally it doesn't bother me as much as the use of Amur Leopard in African Areas, since at least the 3 Porcupines in question basically look the same.
That's another solid Argument; more Biomes the better!
While it seems likely we will get an old-world porcupine at some point, I'm not sure how much our votes here on the forum will affect the specific species.
I think they know a lot of players will not know the differences and even all of us nerds here don't seem to care too much in the end, as long as we get one.
And since even the real zoo-world tends to get this animal wrong, I imagine Frontier might be a bit confused too.
So in the end I could see them going with the one best fitting a theme or the one easiest to research.
I looked up which kind Shepreth Wildlife Park got since I imagine we could see them make content from there with this animal as we have seen before.
Their website just says Crested without a scientific name...
According to Zootierliste they got both North African Crested and Cape. Though the crested was reported as seen in 2010 and with Cape the latest report was 2 females in 2021. So I'm likely to think they got cape even though their website says crested. It is confusing.
What might also influence the choice is the potential for interspecies enrichment.
Animals you often find porcupines housed with are meerkats. While I believe you can find this mix with different species of porcupines, Frontier often seems to base their interspecies choices on if they can be found in the same areas in the wild (with exceptions). So if they are interested in this mix, which I imagine they might be then the cape is the logical choice.
But (I'm going deep into this apparently) another mix you see from time to time are porcupines and African Spurred Tortoises. So should they show up in the same pack, which wouldn't be impossible, the choice of species might be affected by that leaning towards the North African.
Though real zoos even mix all 3 species: meerkat, tortoise, porcupine, which doesn't really make sense based on locations.
So I don't have a conclusion to all this, other than I think it will be one of the African species.
I think they know a lot of players will not know the differences and even all of us nerds here don't seem to care too much in the end, as long as we get one.
And since even the real zoo-world tends to get this animal wrong, I imagine Frontier might be a bit confused too.
So in the end I could see them going with the one best fitting a theme or the one easiest to research.
I looked up which kind Shepreth Wildlife Park got since I imagine we could see them make content from there with this animal as we have seen before.
Their website just says Crested without a scientific name...
According to Zootierliste they got both North African Crested and Cape. Though the crested was reported as seen in 2010 and with Cape the latest report was 2 females in 2021. So I'm likely to think they got cape even though their website says crested. It is confusing.
What might also influence the choice is the potential for interspecies enrichment.
Animals you often find porcupines housed with are meerkats. While I believe you can find this mix with different species of porcupines, Frontier often seems to base their interspecies choices on if they can be found in the same areas in the wild (with exceptions). So if they are interested in this mix, which I imagine they might be then the cape is the logical choice.
But (I'm going deep into this apparently) another mix you see from time to time are porcupines and African Spurred Tortoises. So should they show up in the same pack, which wouldn't be impossible, the choice of species might be affected by that leaning towards the North African.
Though real zoos even mix all 3 species: meerkat, tortoise, porcupine, which doesn't really make sense based on locations.
So I don't have a conclusion to all this, other than I think it will be one of the African species.
I just hope we don't get Timber Wolf 2.0 and maybe this Thread could raise more Awareness into all this Confusion and help Frontier make better Research.
and you don't even have to change anything in the model, just name, map and biomesIn truth it doesn’t matter to me, I’ll just mod in the others
In Antwerp Zoo, the porcupines are mixed with the yellow mongooses and it's a very cool exhibit.
I definitely am voting/listing the (North African) Crested Porcupine when I list Crested Porcupine. I'm aware there's several Old World Porcupine species, many of which look very similar. I would be fine with the Cape Porcupine even though it's not my #1 preference and I would not continue to wish for the Crested Porcupine. The Cape Porcupine is what we have in my local zoo, and it's also from Africa. I would rather not get the Indian Porcupine, but it would be better than no Old World Porcupine at all. If we got a New World species such as the Brazilian or North America Porcupine I'd still want an Old World one, though I want the Brazilian as well.
My main concern is that we may not get a Porcupine at all. I think if we do it will almost certainly be an Old World species though.
My main concern is that we may not get a Porcupine at all. I think if we do it will almost certainly be an Old World species though.
Yeah but I doubt Frontier would give them the enrichment bonus the Cape porcupine would probably get.
If they go by the traditional way of only giving Enrichment Bonus based on Overlapping Ranges, then North African wouldn't get it either. But if I'm not mistaken they broke that pattern with some Recent Packs?
They definitkey did with the nile lechwe and oryx who bothered just got pushed into the large African savanhah interspecies group.
I think they would for the African crested porcupine and meerkat and aardvark, because it would be 'close enough' and all, but not the Indian, since it comes from a completely different continent and occupies a different biome spread.
I just checked recent Interspecies Bonuses. It seems even from being different Continents is no longer a Limitation. All 5 Butterflies for instance have an Interspecies Bonus, despite some only being Old World, others New World. We also have examples of Animals from the Same Continent but separated by an Ocean, which still get a Bonus. Like Malayan Tapir and Proboscis Monkey or Galapagos Tortoise and Capybara.