Not VR, but Holy Almost, Batman!

Mr Cynical

Mr Cynical
I used to game on a native 720p projector back on xbox 360 many moons ago. Awesomeness it most definitely was. Wall sized gaming is good.

But, personally I think my oled 4K is more awesomeness with the blackness. At night with zero ambient light in the room, space is really black. When projection tech can hit that nail on the head, reasonably priced, I may go back someday.

And if I sit close enough in the ideal central spot, the delicate curve of my oled screen's wraparound effect is very nice too.
 
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stormyuk

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stormyuk
pzykozomatik said:
I play ED exclusively on our living room TV, sitting with the HOTAS in a comfy chair about 1,5 meters from the 65" 4K display gives me the best feeling of immersion I can reasonably get until Elite VR is released for the PlayStation 5 ;)
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Mr Cynical said:
But, personally I think my oled 4K is more awesomeness with the blackness. At night with zero ambient light in the room, space is really black. When projection tech can hit that nail on the head, reasonably priced, I may go back someday.
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Are you guys doing this on purpose when we know 4K is not supported on the PS4 version of Elite Dangerous [sad]

Still Space has got it right with a 1080p projector.
 
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Old Duck

Old Duck
stormyuk said:
Are you guys doing this on purpose when we know 4K is not supported on the PS4 version of Elite Dangerous [sad]
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A high-quality 4K TV will upscale a 1080p signal by interpolating the adjacent pixels. While not as nice as a native 4K signal, it will look better than native 1080p. It can help reduce aliasing. Another thing that can look amazing is frame interpolation, which also helps with jaggies and increases perceived framerate.
 

SpaceMachine

SpaceMachine
Old Duck said:
Another thing that can look amazing is frame interpolation, which also helps with jaggies and increases perceived framerate.
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Motion is handled very well by my projector. Everything looks so smooth. It's only 1080P, but it's lovely.

STRONTIUM DOG said:
I thought the whiter it is the better when it comes to projectors
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The screen should be white (or greyscale), but my walls are currently British Newbuild Magnolia - that's what I'll be painting over, to get rid of ambient light reflected back towards the screen. I'll most likely also get a black rug to cover the beige carpet closest to the wall. The screen I'll build myself.
 

Cmdr Nemo

Cmdr Nemo
SpaceMachine said:
Motion is handled very well by my projector. Everything looks so smooth. It's only 1080P, but it's lovely.



The screen should be white (or greyscale), but my walls are currently British Newbuild Magnolia - that's what I'll be painting over, to get rid of ambient light reflected back towards the screen. I'll most likely also get a black rug to cover the beige carpet closest to the wall. The screen I'll build myself.
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Though I do not know the ratio, blending in some finely ground silica sand into the paint will help dramaticly. Professional movie screen as well as the ole pull down home style have a rough texture to it surface which stops the light from bounding off of the screen and back at the audience.
 
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SpaceMachine

SpaceMachine
Initially, I was thinking about painting the screen area, but I have to go with the fabric option. It might cost a little more, but I should be able to build one for less than 100 quid.

If my wall was flat, I would just go ahead and paint it. Seriously, whoever plastered this place should be shot.
 

Mr Cynical

Mr Cynical
stormyuk said:
Are you guys doing this on purpose when we know 4K is not supported on the PS4 version of Elite Dangerous [sad]

Still Space has got it right with a 1080p projector.
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Not trying to depress any ps4 cmdrs, honestly. PS4 ed looks amazing on oled.

Would love to get my hands on that modular self-emissive micro led tech that Samsung showed at ces and just cover a wall in it... projectors would be struggling to get even close to those bright whites and pure black...
 

stormyuk

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stormyuk
Mr Cynical said:
Not trying to depress any ps4 cmdrs, honestly. PS4 ed looks amazing on oled.

Would love to get my hands on that modular self-emissive micro led tech that Samsung showed at ces and just cover a wall in it... projectors would be struggling to get even close to those bright whites and pure black...
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Looks amazing on my FALD LED too :) I just wish it was Elite was in 4K/HDR :)

I don't have the room for a projector anyway.
 

pzykozomatik

pzykozomatik
Old Duck said:
A high-quality 4K TV will upscale a 1080p signal by interpolating the adjacent pixels. While not as nice as a native 4K signal, it will look better than native 1080p. It can help reduce aliasing. Another thing that can look amazing is frame interpolation, which also helps with jaggies and increases perceived framerate.
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This. Particularly the texts look noticably cleaner, especially in PS4 Pro Quality Mode (I only switch to Performance Mode for extended combat sessions).
 
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stormyuk

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stormyuk
Old Duck said:
A high-quality 4K TV will upscale a 1080p signal by interpolating the adjacent pixels. While not as nice as a native 4K signal, it will look better than native 1080p. It can help reduce aliasing. Another thing that can look amazing is frame interpolation, which also helps with jaggies and increases perceived framerate.
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pzykozomatik said:
This. Particularly the texts look noticably cleaner, especially in PS4 Pro Quality Mode (I only switch to Performance Mode for extended combat sessions).
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Still way too many jaggies on Elite Dangerous PS4 Pro, granted its better than the base PS4 (although my GTX570 has better/sharper HUD than the PS4 Pro on the same monitor). The AA is not the best on Elite Dangerous (lots of flicker on straight lines), the Xbox One X peeps report that the 4K really helps in this regard, which it should.

At the end of the day whether its projectors, 1080p screen, 4k screen. LED screen, OLED or whatever, the source is the source, no amount of digital trikery can make 1080p resolution look 2160p.
 
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pzykozomatik

pzykozomatik
stormyuk said:
Still way too many jaggies on Elite Dangerous PS4 Pro, granted its better than the base PS4 (although my GTX570 has better/sharper HUD than the PS4 Pro on the same monitor). The AA is not the best on Elite Dangerous (lots of flicker on straight lines), the Xbox One X peeps report that the 4K really helps in this regard, which it should.

At the end of the day whether its projectors, 1080p screen, 4k screen. LED screen, OLED or whatever, the source is the source, no amount of digital trikery can make 1080p resolution look 2160p.
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The toast rack ist the worst!
IMHO a team of specialised programmers could actually get the extra performance out of the PS4 hardware, see studios like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch or Guerilla Games.

But at the end of the day, I don't care that much. If I wanted to re-enter the graphics / fps race, I'd build a replacement for my 2009 PC rig. But I decided years ago to favour console gaming (except for titles like RTS where a mouse is a must) and use my time to actually play the games instead of spending hours installing drivers and tweaking graphics settings.
 
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