Now that "Arena" has been floated off.....

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I do find it fascinating that those most likely to use "childish" as an insult are the people who are REALLY VERY UPSET that there's a small red item taking up some spare space in one tab of the right-hand panel display.
 
And once again the forum shows why we can't have good things (or bad things removed in this case), draw from it what you will....
 
What I find fascinating is that anyone who favours CQC being removed from the main game (or given a reduced presence in it) gets insulted and denigrated.
 
I actually only played CQC a couple of times, not really my thing at all, but i like the idea of being able to bring up a spectator mode from the ship console, would be good to watch on those long flights.
 
Remove open. I don't like it, I don't use it, I will never use it. It's a completely different game from my awesome solo experience and the sheer existence of this login option is an affront to me everytime I look at the main menu.

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Bad comparison,I would like the stats removed of a separate game that does nothing for my main game at all, not removal of the game altogether. Nice try tho.
 
Bad comparison,I would like the stats removed of a separate game that does nothing for my main game at all, not removal of the game altogether. Nice try tho.

Well, they could just add little buttons everywhere, so I can just hide that option to login to open.
I might click it on accident, in case I forget how much I dislike and unuse it. :eek:

Technically it wasn't a comparison, it was pure sarcasm with a little -sob- between the don't like and don't use. :p
In other words - they don't make this game for *you* .. or *me* .. and while suggestions to improve things are always a good thing, I just cannot wrap my head around the amount of hysteria in some demands.

I mean, are you guys serious about FD actively "mocking" or "insulting" *YOU* with this little, completely irrelevant to anything detail?
 
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And I still think the objections are "made up reasons" I have explained multiple times the difference between what are effectively "trades" or job descriptions within the Elite universe and a virtual sport, even if you think trade or combat or exploring are boring within Elite it is almost certain that your rank in all of them will eventually change as you progress through the game.

The CQC rank is for a virtual sport not real life (as represented with the game) it is also the only one that currently requires you to actively leave your game and log in to another game to effect it, so if you have no interest in playing any kind of sport and do not wish to stop playing Elite and start playing CQC Arena pew pew your ranking will forever be there mocking you every time you check your HUD for anything.

It is made worse by the rank which has been chosen to represent someone who has no desire to play it at all.

To keep making objections based on a dislike of trading or exploring just show that not only do you not bother read (Or understand?) many peoples writing on the subject but you also ignore those ranks were part of the game before the CQC Xbox mode was even added, it is by far the most incongruous thing FD have tried to add, just does not fit the style of game and it is failing to attract players who mostly just don't want it.

Rather than just give up on it FD seem determined to irritate many of their existing customers by forcing it's effects on the actual game we bought.

Not enough rep in the world for this comment.

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Well, they could just add little buttons everywhere, so I can just hide that option to login to open.
I might click it on accident, in case I forget how much I dislike and unuse it. :eek:

Technically it wasn't a comparison, it was pure sarcasm with a little -sob- between the don't like and don't use. :p
In other words - they don't make this game for *you* .. or *me* ..
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Obviously obvious, what does that have to do with seeing your CQC rank in other games? Will my Elite rank be on my Planet Coaster Ui?
 
Obviously obvious, what does that have to do with seeing your CQC rank in other games? Will my Elite rank be on my Planet Coaster Ui?

"Other games"?
Again .. you are serious about this?
FD is actively hunting you and trying to offend and insult you with pushing "other games" into .. their game.
 
Well, they could just add little buttons everywhere, so I can just hide that option to login to open.
I might click it on accident, in case I forget how much I dislike and unuse it. :eek:

Exactly! Toggles never hurt anyone especially as this is rather simple to get done and removes this argument once and for all plus it gives those that are not interested in other areas such as Exploration the option to not be bothered by the icon for it.

Of course the CQC option must remain in the main menu to make it as easy as possible for those that play it to join the Arena players for matches and it could/should be made so a CMDR sat in a station could join a match but just not let him take off until he either leaves the queue, joins a match or finishes playing a match.

Give those that want to play it as much access as possible while giving those of us who don't want to take part the chance to ignore it... So simple.

NOTE: Not one 'Child' was used in the making of this post.
 
Toggles never hurt anyone especially as this is rather simple to get done and removes this argument once and for all plus it gives those that are not interested in other areas such as Exploration the option to not be bothered by the icon for it.

Hm. I'm just about to remove my support for this idea and revoke my statement of "hiding the unused CQC rank being a 'sensible' solution" - for the sheer fact that if this argument is removed, people will go the extra mile just to find other stuff to feel offended and insulted.

And honestly, I would prefer a "clean" and purposeful cockpit, too that just gives me info to data that's relevant to me.
 
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I don't care what they do with it but that irritating unused CQC rating on my HUD actually spoils my enjoyment of the game every time i see it.

The other rankings are for actual physical career choices and skills you build while flying within the Elite universe so a ranking for a virtual sport does not make any sense at all as far as I can tell.

It's like tacking a rating for your FIFA performance on the end of your list of diving licenses even if you hate sports and never play that game.

My understanding is that this is a valid change request that is sitting somewhere near the bottom of FDs huge list of valid change requests. I'd certainly rather see rift cv1 support, ship names, type 2 npcs, atmospheric flight, cmdrs logs, better missions and a whole host of stuff before this trivial pandering pap. Please spend your time campaigning for a more significant feature than this.

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Tried CQC, didn't enjoy it, would be nice to be able to remove/hide from the stats panel if possible.

You too!
 
I like my CQC rank. It makes me smile and is a lovely shade of red.

I would go for the toggley thing that has been suggested, but the outrage that such a little thing produces is just too funny, so I insist that it stays.
 
My understanding is that this is a valid change request that is sitting somewhere near the bottom of FDs huge list of valid change requests. I'd certainly rather see rift cv1 support, ship names, type 2 npcs, atmospheric flight, cmdrs logs, better missions and a whole host of stuff before this trivial pandering pap. Please spend your time campaigning for a more significant feature than this.

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You too!


It doesn't bother me much at all hence I said if possible, but it is kinda funny that others (not you) think it is thought of as a really big deal. Panel customisation if possible in general would be a nice feature again if it is possible, but it's not that big a deal.
 
I think the main problem for those who hate the cqc ranking is that the first rank name is insulting - helpless. Is that correct? How about if the lowest rank was renamed rookie or neophyte? Or non-participant?

I don't care what they call it, my main problem is that you have to log OUT of ED and log IN to a separate game which makes CQC/Arena a different game, fine have it part of the same lore and universe but why do i have a rank for a different game inside Elite??

I'm not sure what that is so hard to understand for everyone?

However many career choices there are makes no difference, if there was a mining one mine would also be at 0% but that wouldn't bother me in the slightest because it's a part of the game that I choose not to participate in but CQV is NOT.

CQC is a separate game, all they have to do is make it accessible via a station terminal from within ED and all my objections vanish, it becomes a part of the game I can choose to use or not.

Currently the CQC ranking on my HUD simply comes across as if FD are putting adverts for a different game into one I paid for, to me, it says,

"Pleeeeease come and play this arena combat game we made, go oooon it's good honest"

For the ranking to deserve a place in the game, its should be available to play from within the game.

I am expecting to see a Planet Coaster ranking appear next.
 
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