Now the BGS is Borked

Havoc4U

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looks like the latest tick did not update any numbers for the conflicts our faction is currently in. We know we did the work & have those numbers but the BGS tick did not apply. Did any other faction experience this? The numbers in question are in systems we are trying to take where we built a station from another faction & have gone to war or elections with the owners. The numbers advanced for the 1st 2 days but did not advance on yesterday's tick. And no the opposing faction did not advance either
 
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Shadowsnog

Shadowsnog
Havoc4U said:
looks like the latest tick did not update any numbers for the conflicts our faction is currently in. We know we did the work & have those numbers but the BGS tick did not apply. Did any other faction experience this?
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ticks can now happen at weird times. id give it some time. thought bgs is definitely wonky since pp2 and its not really getting better...
 

Kerada

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Havoc4U said:
looks like the latest tick did not update any numbers for the conflicts our faction is currently in. We know we did the work & have those numbers but the BGS tick did not apply. Did any other faction experience this? The numbers in question are in systems we are trying to take where we built a station from another faction & have gone to war or elections with the owners. The numbers advanced for the 1st 2 days but did not advance on yesterday's tick. And no the opposing faction did not advance either
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Experiencing similar to what you describe. We've been fighting a war for five days, but the result is stuck at 2-0.
 

Havym

Havym
We have the same issue.... The Sunday tick didn't change anything and today's tick didn't even happen until yet.
 

Havoc4U

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Havym said:
We have the same issue.... The Sunday tick didn't change anything and today's tick didn't even happen until yet.
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there was a change last tick in one of our systems - but all 3 systems where we created stations - where we are now at war or elections - did not update conflict numbers
 

Walter2

Walter2
As I recall, there are two databases that hold information on faction ratings and information is copied from one to the other. Not only that, the BGS records are updated in two phases, Influences and States (I'm sure @Ian Doncaster will correct me if I have misremembered). The earliest information update can be found in Station Services > Local news. Other locations - Right Panel > Status, System Map > Factions System Information - are updated much later, leading to situations where you can see a current data report and a data report for the day before by looking in different places. And with the two phases only half the update may have been installed.
In the early days, before PMFs were invented, you could reliably check on factions' progress about half an hour after the tick.
These days . . .
 

Sombient

Sombient
Pretty sure Walter has the gist of it.

Earliest updates are seen on the News Boards.

The scores for BGS conflicts tend to update fairly quickly once the tick starts. This is also a key indicator the tick is in progress. Influence scores on the other hand always take a few hours after tick sign before they post.

News Boards in different systems are not all updated at the same time either. Your conflict system might not show the updated score when the News Board in the system next door shows your faction got the point.

Finally… the tick has been drifting a lot during the last two updates.
Before Trailblazers tick had been steady at ~0800 UTC.
After the update it moved to ~1200 UTC.

Currently (assuming it has stopped moving) expect the tick around 2000 UTC / 1600 EST / 1300 PST.


edit - My faction saw the score for elections update on yesterday’s tick. But the score for a war in progress did not update. Am waiting for online squadmates to confirm if the news board for the war system is still showing 0 - 0 for yesterday’s tick which would be an atypical result.
 
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Kerada

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Sombient said:
Pretty sure Walter has the gist of it.

Earliest updates are seen on the News Boards.

The scores for BGS conflicts tend to update fairly quickly once the tick starts. This is also a key indicator the tick is in progress. Influence scores on the other hand always take a few hours after tick sign before they post.

News Boards in different systems are not all updated at the same time either. Your conflict system might not show the updated score when the News Board in the system next door shows your faction got the point.

Finally… the tick has been drifting a lot during the last two updates.
Before Trailblazers tick had been steady at ~0800 UTC.
After the update it moved to ~1200 UTC.

Currently (assuming it has stopped moving) expect the tick around 2000 UTC / 1600 EST / 1300 PST.


edit - My faction saw the score for elections update on yesterday’s tick. But the score for a war in progress did not update. Am waiting for online squadmates to confirm if the news board for the war system is still showing 0 - 0 for yesterday’s tick which would be an atypical result.
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This is the odd thing. It's into the sixth day of a war state in the system I'm working on. I, and others, have made contributions on all of those days, and yet the news board in the station reports a 2-0 result. I'm not a BGS expert but something doesn't seem quite right!
 

CMDR Eisler

CMDR Eisler
Kerada said:
This is the odd thing. It's into the sixth day of a war state in the system I'm working on. I, and others, have made contributions on all of those days, and yet the news board in the station reports a 2-0 result. I'm not a BGS expert but something doesn't seem quite right!
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I agree. Election work done on Saturday (day 2) & Sunday (day 3) isn't reflected. I'd expect either a win or a loss depending on relative effort put into it and the score hasn't advanced since day 1.
 

Walter2

Walter2
CMDR Eisler said:
I agree. Election work done on Saturday (day 2) & Sunday (day 3) isn't reflected. I'd expect either a win or a loss depending on relative effort put into it and the score hasn't advanced since day 1.
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This tick is roughly 2000 atm - you won't see the results of Sunday's work for some hours.
 

Havoc4U

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Walter2 said:
As I recall, there are two databases that hold information on faction ratings and information is copied from one to the other. Not only that, the BGS records are updated in two phases, Influences and States (I'm sure @Ian Doncaster will correct me if I have misremembered). The earliest information update can be found in Station Services > Local news. Other locations - Right Panel > Status, System Map > Factions System Information - are updated much later, leading to situations where you can see a current data report and a data report for the day before by looking in different places. And with the two phases only half the update may have been installed.
In the early days, before PMFs were invented, you could reliably check on factions' progress about half an hour after the tick.
These days . . .
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aware of this - still no joy
 

Kerada

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Yes, same here. We'll have to see if it was just a blip. Certainly something was amiss a few days ago because it's taken us 6 days to register a 4-0 win and we started working on it immediately the state switched from pending.
 

CMDR Eisler

CMDR Eisler
Walter2 said:
According to my source (https://elitebgs.app/tick) the tick seems to be stuttering a bit.
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I think it may have failed again in the last 24hrs. Or only some of the updates from a Tick have been reflected in the game. Our election result in the station news now shows 2-1 (it had been 1-1 yesterday) but in the left hand info panel it shows the previous day's result (i.e. 1-1). It says we're on Day 4, but it's definitely Day 5. Also a new election which was pending on 11-Mar is still pending on 12-Mar. Very odd.
 

Balky

Balky
Yep same here in the sytem i`m trying to boost my squadron faction in, stuck on 27 % after raising it from 13 , done a mass of big influence gain missions, nothing shifting. Well Done Fdev
 

CMDR Eisler

CMDR Eisler
Balky said:
Yep same here in the sytem i`m trying to boost my squadron faction in, stuck on 27 % after raising it from 13 , done a mass of big influence gain missions, nothing shifting. Well Done Fdev
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What a mess. We have 4 systems with conflicts/elections underway. None of the scores are updating in the info panel (RHS). The faction news channel does seem to update. One system says our supported faction won the election and now controls the system but the info panel shows it at 3-1 and on day 6. So the info panel is 2 full days behind what the faction news. I've no idea if I should be putting any effort in or not.
 
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