NPCs in combat zones freezing?

William J Smith

William J Smith
Evening all

I just seen a new 'bug' or issue, now before I go making a fool of myself I'll list it here and see if anyone else has seen it

Deployed to a low combat zone ... dropped out of the ship... gun at the ready.... shot a few enemy , then nothing.....
My team members had 'frozen' in place and the enemy no where to be sighted.... until I found them frozen in place exactly where they'd been dropped
They'd still throw grenades and shoot at me if they could see me but they steadfastly refused to move even when shot at by a rocket launcher(you can tell I used to play quake a lot ;) )

Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

Bill

<<slaughtered them all while single handedly winning the war... hey I thought this was call of duty :D
 

Ryox

Ryox
Looks to me like NPC's AI is pretty broken lately, might be worse since patch 7.

In all of my latest CZ, they often wait on place, doing nothing, just like you described.
But they always end up getting "triggered" sooner or later by enemies (or me) attacking them. It can takes up to 2 minutes sometimes ...

So you say you came through Frontline Solutions, not with your own ship, right ?
I'm asking because, if you come with your own ship and don't pick a side, ALL the NPCs will ignore you (until you pick).
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
William J Smith said:
Evening all

I just seen a new 'bug' or issue, now before I go making a fool of myself I'll list it here and see if anyone else has seen it

Deployed to a low combat zone ... dropped out of the ship... gun at the ready.... shot a few enemy , then nothing.....
My team members had 'frozen' in place and the enemy no where to be sighted.... until I found them frozen in place exactly where they'd been dropped
They'd still throw grenades and shoot at me if they could see me but they steadfastly refused to move even when shot at by a rocket launcher(you can tell I used to play quake a lot ;) )

Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

Bill

<<slaughtered them all while single handedly winning the war... hey I thought this was call of duty :D
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Ye, this is happening tonight. I rebooted twice, but enemy and friendly NPCs all just stand in clusters and make no attempt to capture the control zones or do anything except shoot and throw grenades from their frozen spots.
 

Cmdr Alzaroc

Cmdr Alzaroc
William J Smith said:
Evening all

I just seen a new 'bug' or issue, now before I go making a fool of myself I'll list it here and see if anyone else has seen it

Deployed to a low combat zone ... dropped out of the ship... gun at the ready.... shot a few enemy , then nothing.....
My team members had 'frozen' in place and the enemy no where to be sighted.... until I found them frozen in place exactly where they'd been dropped
They'd still throw grenades and shoot at me if they could see me but they steadfastly refused to move even when shot at by a rocket launcher(you can tell I used to play quake a lot ;) )

Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

Bill

<<slaughtered them all while single handedly winning the war... hey I thought this was call of duty :D
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Yeah, I've seen it a few times over the last few months.
 

ferus

ferus
I don’t want to be too pessimistic but what is the point?

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/49080

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/31757

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/27800

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/27692

All these issues report the same bug (dating back to April 2021!) yet here we are more than a year later with the same old bug.

I voted with both of my accounts for what it’s worth but I really don’t think players should be chasing bugs and begging for votes just to have a glaring issue fixed.
 

Muzz UK

Muzz UK
William J Smith said:
Evening all

I just seen a new 'bug' or issue, now before I go making a fool of myself I'll list it here and see if anyone else has seen it

Deployed to a low combat zone ... dropped out of the ship... gun at the ready.... shot a few enemy , then nothing.....
My team members had 'frozen' in place and the enemy no where to be sighted.... until I found them frozen in place exactly where they'd been dropped
They'd still throw grenades and shoot at me if they could see me but they steadfastly refused to move even when shot at by a rocket launcher(you can tell I used to play quake a lot ;) )

Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

Bill

<<slaughtered them all while single handedly winning the war... hey I thought this was call of duty :D
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I just thought that was the intended difficulty settings :) when you can win a HIGH with just pistols 900 points remaining consistently etc
 

Ryox

Ryox
Muzz UK said:
I just thought that was the intended difficulty settings :) when you can win a HIGH with just pistols 900 points remaining consistently etc
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It's because they tune High CZ difficulty to be playable in PvP. Those NPCs become pretty nasty when you have another CMDR putting pressure on you on the other side ;)
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
ferus said:
I don’t want to be too pessimistic but what is the point?

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/49080

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/31757

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/27800

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/27692

All these issues report the same bug (dating back to April 2021!) yet here we are more than a year later with the same old bug.

I voted with both of my accounts for what it’s worth but I really don’t think players should be chasing bugs and begging for votes just to have a glaring issue fixed.
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@sallymorganmoore is there any way around this? It's a persistent bug, which remains for as long as a Conflict Zone does despite rebooting. But the reports haven't bene consolidated so the votes just keep spreading out.
 

R-Irish

R-Irish
Had this happen months ago. Sometimes both teams would freeze for about 3-4 mins and then snap out of it. Sometimes once NPC would stay at the drop location while the rest would behave normally. Once or twice the other team were nowhere to be found.

There was no pattern to when / how these would occur and overall it wasn't a common occurrence. I know that about 3-4 patches ago they addressed some issues with NPC behaviour in conflict zones where there appeared to be a delay in NPC reaction at the start of a match, they wold stand still for two mins or so before engaging in combat. Since the patches this behavior has been even more rare thankfully.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Flimley said:
NPC's freezing in combat zones?!?
.... well, space is pretty cold I guess.

This thread is very old now by the way.

Flimley
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The CZs on planetary settlements, not in space.

It's a current problem. As I said, it happened to me this week.

there's no delay, no unfreezing. Even completely rebooting a PC doesn't solve it. The NPCs are stuck in position for as long as the war lasts.
 

MDHansen

M
Yeh, still happens occasionally, dare I say about 20% of the cz I do. Seems random, but not that I've tried to find out what triggers it.

Mildly annoying, 6/10

They need to hire someone that actually does some work at the Issue Tracker, merging. Instead of some passive aggressive intern just shutting them down :LOL:
 

MDHansen

M
Flimley said:
NPC's freezing in combat zones?!?
.... well, space is pretty cold I guess.

This thread is very old now by the way.

Flimley
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Most likely not older than the bug!

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metatheurgist

metatheurgist
I've only ever had it happen when my machine was starting to chug. Very rarely. On my 11 year old potato....

Since the last update I haven't had it happen at all and I do CZs every week.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
I totally re-validated the games files, and went back to the CZs in Centralis. It is still doing it, 100% of the time now.
 
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