Nukes

Acutally, the "hydrogen" a star spits out is actually in the form of radiation - protons and electrons. A star is too hot for actual hydrogen nuclei.

Edit: Cyberneticist beat me to it hehehe

Making Hydrogen from Protons is not synthesizing, it's already Hydrogen - just add Electrons. Synthesizing is the word used and that would mean starting with Quarks which is just a tad tricky.
 
Links or it didnt happen ;)

I usually make a point of not giving grounds to obnoxious people, but *luckily* I kept my sources for the Guide just in case someone like you would come along. So enjoy: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=14422
If you want more, I'm sure youtube has dozens of interviews about the subject, and you need only search for them as I did.

I now wash my hands of you -- if after you have the source, the knowledge of stars in the Guide and the logic you still can not deduce what really happens, then it's your problem and not mine, and my patience has ran it's course.

All the best.
 
I usually make a point of not giving grounds to obnoxious people, but *luckily* I kept my sources for the Guide just in case someone like you would come along. So enjoy: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=14422
If you want more, I'm sure youtube has dozens of interviews about the subject, and you need only search for them as I did.
That's a wonderful attitude for a research scientist... Sources should be given freely, IDK why you hold such disdain for people asking for them.
 
I usually make a point of not giving grounds to obnoxious people, but *luckily* I kept my sources for the Guide just in case someone like you would come along. So enjoy: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=14422
If you want more, I'm sure youtube has dozens of interviews about the subject, and you need only search for them as I did.

I now wash my hands of you -- if after you have the source, the knowledge of stars in the Guide and the logic you still can not deduce what really happens, then it's your problem and not mine, and my patience has ran it's course.

All the best.
Calling me obnoxious because I require verification for in game lore?

Even with that link I still say there is room for imagination. Not all scoopable "stellar bodies" hav hydrogen readily available. Assuming the scoop uses energy to produce fuel seems perfectly reasonable to me.
 
That's a wonderful attitude for a research scientist... Sources should be given freely, IDK why you hold such disdain for people asking for them.

Calling me obnoxious because I require verification for in game lore?

Even with that link I still say there is room for imagination. Not all scoopable "stellar bodies" hav hydrogen readily available. Assuming the scoop uses energy to produce fuel seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Fair enough, I could have been a bit more civil. You just can't imagine how terribly frustrating it is when people who had not spent 20 years of their life studying and working on something come around and doubt it "just because", with no proof to offer or argument of the contrary, and chalk up everything you said because it is fact as "an opinion". For example, all scoopable stellar bodies *do* have hydrogen readily available in their corona -- something that I said so in the Guide. Which is something I said so because I've studied this and I work with exotic particles, and on my Cosmology department, we actually observe far away stars on a daily basis.

I usually don't bother to list sources unless someone in the discussion is also a fellow physicist, because honestly, no layman would understand half what a scientific paper says. People get wikipedia wrong -- if they read some of our MIT papers, they would probably think the universe was a disc on top of a space elephant supported by four turtles.
 
Nope. But I'm really not a good example, mate, I study this for a living. :rolleyes:
Well yeah, then I can see why it wouldn't boggle you, you've already adapted! cheater! :p

Yes, and my PhD, and my research based on official developer statements. :)
Fair enough, I could have been a bit more civil. You just can't imagine how terribly frustrating it is when people who had not spent 20 years of their life studying and working on something come around and doubt it "just because", with no proof to offer or argument of the contrary, and chalk up everything you said because it is fact as "an opinion". For example, all scoopable stellar bodies *do* have hydrogen readily available in their corona -- something that I said so in the Guide. Which is something I said so because I've studied this and I work with exotic particles, and on my Cosmology department, we actually observe far away stars on a daily basis.

I usually don't bother to list sources unless someone in the discussion is also a fellow physicist, because honestly, no layman would understand half what a scientific paper says. People get wikipedia wrong -- if they read some of our MIT papers, they would probably think the universe was a disc on top of a space elephant supported by four turtles.
Just want to point out that an unfortunate side effect of the internet is that, suddenly everyone has a phd or such in (insert field), when they claim something.
Obviously the vast majority of the it is not true, but it has the unfortunate effect that when someone actually does have it, no one believes it. And yeah giving sources won't help either since normal people don't understand it.
Sadly I got no real solution for you, other then ignoring those that are stubborn just to be stubborn, and only answer those that seem curious and question stuff. :)

that said the corona is warmer then the actual surface of a star right? like millions of kelvin? can hydrogen really avoid becoming plasma and breaking the bond between electron and potron?
 
Certainly the more advanced scientific concepts aren't easily sourced such that everyone can understand it. At some point it comes down to trusting the experts or becoming an expert in the field yourself. The Dev statements are a different matter, though. Those can be easily verified by anyone when pointed to the source.
 
Wow that's off topic. I think we've established that you can't fuel scoop from a nuke as a nuke doesn't release significant quantities of hydrogen. And what would be the purpose of fuel scooping in a combat environment? I don't see it being possible to fuel scoop in a conflict zone.
 
Fair enough, I could have been a bit more civil. You just can't imagine how terribly frustrating it is when people who had not spent 20 years of their life studying and working on something come around and doubt it "just because", with no proof to offer or argument of the contrary, and chalk up everything you said because it is fact as "an opinion". For example, all scoopable stellar bodies *do* have hydrogen readily available in their corona -- something that I said so in the Guide. Which is something I said so because I've studied this and I work with exotic particles, and on my Cosmology department, we actually observe far away stars on a daily basis.

I usually don't bother to list sources unless someone in the discussion is also a fellow physicist, because honestly, no layman would understand half what a scientific paper says. People get wikipedia wrong -- if they read some of our MIT papers, they would probably think the universe was a disc on top of a space elephant supported by four turtles.
The game isn't science. It is science-fiction. That means my imagination added to the fact that there are already fantastic (literally) mechanisms at play, makes your diplomas from MIT worthless in this context. My point was only to illustrate my observation that our ships are bombarded with intense radiation frequently with no ill effect. It stands to reason that our shields alone would negate the effect of a nuke. The added hilarious benefit of the fuelscoop was partly in jest.

Grow a sense of humor man. It is a game. It is supposed to be fun :)
 

That sounds fantastic! I imagine detonating one of those would end a fight quickly :p

So conflict zones and possible station sieges could be ended by the winning team launching a nuclear missile at the enemy flagship, when it lands it detonates turning the enemy flagship into a cloud of molten droplets. This would've been proceded by a warning message to friendly ships to clear the blast zone and followed by a quick mop-up where enemy ai stop jumping in. Once all enemy ships are gone the conflict zone victors disperse and the zone despawns.
 
The game isn't science. It is science-fiction. That means my imagination added to the fact that there are already fantastic (literally) mechanisms at play, makes your diplomas from MIT worthless in this context. My point was only to illustrate my observation that our ships are bombarded with intense radiation frequently with no ill effect. It stands to reason that our shields alone would negate the effect of a nuke. The added hilarious benefit of the fuelscoop was partly in jest.

Grow a sense of humor man. It is a game. It is supposed to be fun :)

Since everything you use today, from a mobile phone to your car and even the trousers you wear were once "fiction" and someone had to apply real knowledge to make them real, I'll completely disregard every single opinion of yours from now on, as you clearly have all the wrong ones. :D
Ta-da.
 
Since everything you use today, from a mobile phone to your car and even the trousers you wear were once "fiction" and someone had to apply real knowledge to make them real, I'll completely disregard every single opinion of yours from now on, as you clearly have all the wrong ones. :D
Ta-da.
You could at least have the decency to include a few lines on topic in your pompous egotrip posts. I agree, however that fiction often does become reality through hard work and sometimes ingenious inventions. I present to you the fictional fuelscoop that can harvest fuel from nuclear blasts. Now put your money where your mouth is and make it "real". Give us an explanation how it will work.
 
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