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Varrag

Varrag
Did you guys notice that there is now gravitational lensing around neutron stars too? Not as strong as with black holes (loss of the background light is one reason because neutrons do shine, unlike BHs), but it's definitely there.

And here's my current dilemma: to jump, or not to jump? No matter how much I zoom or rotate the map, all that can be seen is one big blue sphere. And three scary stars in the description... hm. Still have quite a lot to travel to there so the decision can wait:

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interfector said:
have you guys stopped scanning systems that are already discovered by someone?
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That tag is not bothering me at all. I am running things just like before: scan what is worth, take a closer look at interesting stuff, etc. If it happens that I am the first, good, if not... good again. But I haven't been in previously visited system for days, and I am only couple thousands light years away from civilization. Tens of thousands yet to go :D
 
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CmdrPSB

CmdrPSB
interfector said:
i found out that in some systems that i fully scanned, some objects have my tag, and some don't.
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I've had the same just now and put in a ticket - if I'm not first to scan there should be another tag there to say who is.

Edit: having had another look, it seems to be related to the game not picking up the fact you've surface scanned stuff. After I noticed it was happening I checked carefully and saw where I wasn't credited although the value for the planet was as you'd expect for a surface scanned planet, and the data was populated in the system map, UC hadn't tagged it as "detailed surface scan" so I'm guessing that's why no discovery credit or bonus was given to me for it.

Hopefully they can backtrack through the DB, fix it and give me my money! (oh and also first discoverer, banner for humanity's progress and knowledge yadda yadda shut up and pay me)
 
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Ambivalent

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Varrag said:
Did you guys notice that there is now gravitational lensing around neutron stars too? Not as strong as with black holes (loss of the background light is one reason because neutrons do shine, unlike BHs), but it's definitely there.

And here's my current dilemma: to jump, or not to jump? No matter how much I zoom or rotate the map, all that can be seen is one big blue sphere. And three scary stars in the description... hm. Still have quite a lot to travel to there so the decision can wait:


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That tag is not bothering me at all. I am running things just like before: scan what is worth, take a closer look at interesting stuff, etc. If it happens that I am the first, good, if not... good again. But I haven't been in previously visited system for days, and I am only couple thousands light years away from civilization. Tens of thousands yet to go :D
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I'd jump, never had a situation I couldn't get out of yet after 2k systems explored, few close shaves but nothing terrible. (now i'll probably blow myself up in the near future)
 

AnnuverScotinExile

AnnuverScotinExile
Bonus of zero?

I have just started to claim my finds for a 15K LY round trip (abandoned attempt to get to the core through too much damage). I note that several systems where I have first finder bonuses, have given me a bonus of zero. This includes the first Earth-Like that I was the first to find (BLU THUA XV-E D11-26 1). Is this expected, or a bug? Are there good reasons for it happening, or only bad ones?

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Edit: And now I am getting systems (such as Smojai IM-W D1-1 A 5) where I got a first finder bonus for the star, but for nothing else. Going into the system view, I can see what type many of the planets are, so I obviously scanned them (and my notes said I did so, too), but no one is set as first finder.

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Found more. In one case I took pictures for, but unfortunately not all the pictures that I should, the 'detailed surface scan' did not appear against all the planets. The system view shows that I know what the planets are, so I must have done that detailed surface scan (besides which, I am careful), so it looks as if that is what is causing the problem of only getting partial bonuses. It does not explain the problem of getting zero bonuses.

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Even later: I now have picture evidence for multiple instances of this happening. Looks like a major bug to me. I will probably start a thread on the subject, to get input from others, and more cases. Nothing annoys players more than loss of credits (other than loss of things that cost credits, like ships and cargo). I suspect getting a thread full of complainers will get it fixed faster than the ticket, though I will do that as well.
 
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Sloma

Sloma
Has anyone seen before a flattened planet in ED? I thought they are round and the game does not simulate this. Anyway here is what I've found:

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Mass of this planet is 17.9999 of Earth, radius has 36214 km and rotational period takes 14 hours and 15 minutes, it is a quite fast spinner.
 

Varrag

Varrag
Today I've stumbled upon this odd water world. I don't remember that I've ever seen one like it. No atmosphere? Surface temperature -28°C? Shouldn't this be classified as icy planet? Yet, from orbit it appears to be covered with liquid water ocean. But water cannot stay in liquid state if it's in the touch with cosmic vaccum. It boils and eventually freezes, right?

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(btw sorry for the censoring - since they introduced "first dicovered" tag I generally prefer to keep my location... secretive :))

interfector said:
varrag, have you made that jump, or you skipped it? i'm really interested.
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I am still far away from there so it will take a while, especially because I am spending quite a lot time DSS'ing valuable planets. I will report what happened in this thread later. I admit that I have VERY bad feeling about that system, but I'm gonna test my luck and roll the dice before the jump: even number = go! :eek:
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
Varrag said:
Today I've stumbled upon this odd water world. I don't remember that I've ever seen one like it. No atmosphere? Surface temperature -28°C? Shouldn't this be classified as icy planet? Yet, from orbit it appears to be covered with liquid water ocean. But water cannot stay in liquid state if it's in the touch with cosmic vaccum. It boils and eventually freezes, right?
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Could be an icy shell over liquid ocean, something along those lines?

I'm looking at the places Rocky Ice worlds get to at the moment, as part of an ongoing project - starting to think of myself in-character not as an explorer, but as a scientist. :)
 

Xexexh

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Jackie Silver said:
I'm looking at the places Rocky Ice worlds get to at the moment, as part of an ongoing project - starting to think of myself in-character not as an explorer, but as a scientist. :)
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I found a rocky / icey planet that was suitable for terraforming a couple of days ago! It was the outermost moon of the outermost gas giant of a large system. Surprised me as I didn't know you could find terraformable rocky/ice planets
 

Varrag

Varrag
Jackie Silver said:
Could be an icy shell over liquid ocean, something along those lines?
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Surely, this planet should be classified as icy in that case? Surface temperature is -28°C after all, and there is no atmospheric pressure, so water must be frozen on the top of whatever is laying beneath. Take Jupiter's moon Europa for example - there is a chance that the vast ocean of liquid water is hidden below the icy crust, but this doesn't make it a water world.

I don't know what to make of this planet. Is this just a glitch in PG formulas, or there is some (scientific) explanation I am not aware of? Like when someone explained that it's totally viable to have icy planet with the surface temperature of 1000°C: if the atmospheric pressure is high enough, what we're getting is so-called "hot ice". It's hot, but it's still ice - water is being compressed into the solid state.
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
Xexexh said:
I found a rocky / icey planet that was suitable for terraforming a couple of days ago! It was the outermost moon of the outermost gas giant of a large system. Surprised me as I didn't know you could find terraformable rocky/ice planets
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Woah, say what?! :eek: Please tell me you have a screenshot and the location! :) :)

Surely, this planet should be classified as icy in that case? Surface temperature is -28°C after all, and there is no atmospheric pressure, so water must be frozen on the top of whatever is laying beneath. Take Jupiter's moon Europa for example - there is a chance that the vast ocean of liquid water is hidden below the icy crust, but this doesn't make it a water world.
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I suppose you could have a Europa analogue, only with a thin ice crust over a liquid ocean over a solid (and yes, hot) ice core.
 

Xexexh

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I thought I had a screenshot but apparently not. However when I get back from this trip (around mid-week I reckon) I will sell my data system by system until I find it as I know this will be important info for many
 

carazvan

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Dont know if you still need data Jackie but I did find a system with 6 terraformable rocky planets quite far away: NYEAJAAE AA-A H41 (and no that's not a typo... there's stars there also)

It'll be a while before I bring back the data (11k LY away from Sol now) but figured that'd fill in the last terraformable graph.
 

Nutter

Nutter
carazvan said:
Dont know if you still need data Jackie but I did find a system with 6 terraformable rocky planets quite far away: NYEAJAAE AA-A H41 (and no that's not a typo... there's stars there also)

It'll be a while before I bring back the data (11k LY away from Sol now) but figured that'd fill in the last terraformable graph.
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I think 1.1 has changed the scope now we are told the Exact Values - For example I've worked out that a Scanned body is worth 6 times the ping value, also that the (NEW) bonus is worth 50% of the scanned value....

Just getting the base values nailed which I should be able to do when I get back to a station (2 Weeks?)
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
carazvan said:
Dont know if you still need data Jackie but I did find a system with 6 terraformable rocky planets quite far away: NYEAJAAE AA-A H41 (and no that's not a typo... there's stars there also)

It'll be a while before I bring back the data (11k LY away from Sol now) but figured that'd fill in the last terraformable graph.
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Yah, should be interesting to see if it's not too much bother to isolate that one system among the UC pages. :)
 

Krunchie

Krunchie
Varrag said:
Today I've stumbled upon this odd water world. I don't remember that I've ever seen one like it. No atmosphere? Surface temperature -28°C? Shouldn't this be classified as icy planet? Yet, from orbit it appears to be covered with liquid water ocean. But water cannot stay in liquid state if it's in the touch with cosmic vaccum. It boils and eventually freezes, right?

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(btw sorry for the censoring - since they introduced "first dicovered" tag I generally prefer to keep my location... secretive :))


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I have found one water world almost the same as yours. What's the science behind it?
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