Hardware & Technical Nvidia RTX 2080 pre-order Must resist

Pville_Piper

Pville_Piper
Frank said:
The on-board AI is quite intriguing. What are the future possibilities? Is there a chance that they'll be RTX cards trained specifically for VR?
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This article explains it as best it can...https://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/news/rtx-2080-first-impressions-nvidias-new-dlss-technology,500694

I think this might be the real game changer and a good reason to get the one of the RTX, particularly if it helps boost the performance of VR. As far as the Ray Tracing goes, it is beautiful what Dice has done with it in Battlefield V the real question is how much ray tracing will dog your system and result in lag kills, particularly if you round the corner against a player with no raytracing and low settings running 100 FPS or more... The other issue is that now we have yet another high end path to chase with ever more expensive hardware to buy.


If you haven't seen ray tracing
[video=youtube_share;APtlyQ3JAFI]https://youtu.be/APtlyQ3JAFI[/video]
and
[video=youtube_share;I6_U4CRc8FQ]https://youtu.be/I6_U4CRc8FQ[/video]
 
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SuperG

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It is for me easy to avoid nV because I prefere anything else like ATi (AMD) above iNtel GFX ( i740 ) above nV.
My budget is around max €500 so 2070 would be a problem te much expensive to me. Or need to strech my budget

If the value for GFX is huge then maybe and AMD software DXR is much limited and or slower.
But in my opinion about Raytracing , its high overrated. That is also my opion back then about Quake raytraced branch off.
First fake shadows just works and reflexoin cube mapping does the job to. Accurate is often not relevant unless is so obvois or it brakes the gaming experience. Often the incorrecness is not noticable.
So raytracing acts as a placebo effect of you know at forhand its correct vs conventional advanced shadow effects. Wich are heavy to.

I never been busy gaming and focusing on if shadows are correct. Importance is that there are shadows because it has influence on tactical level that you get hint if a opfor is comming around corner. So you need shadow to use sun position in tactical disision of flanking .
But it does need not need to be that accurate. Approximation does fullfill the gameplay use and higher the gfx level.

Because reflection of a plane over car the accurateness is some offset were plane refection is put on the car but we don't have te percpective feeling what is right unless the fault is extreem. And if we realy care in game experience.

GFX wich can archieved without it is already high. So to me it icing on the cake and in some cases the value is as high if its useable in gameplay. Fast action games like CoD shadows are usable in gameplay but the need for accurateness is not relevant as more is it usefull in tactical sense.

In slow pace sandbox shooter where you can with ease explore the beautifull scenery at 30FPS well GFX detail is then much more experienced by gamer. And advanc and high level of shadow adds in scene not much the correctness but the deeper shadow effect of raytracing.
Value for mostly matt lacker games like militare equipment does not matter, reflect civilian cars do some with effect lacker like racegames with supercars.

As raytracing. It not doable on replacing conventional way of rendering that correct with decent depth of the rays in FHD or 1440p or UHD or desent resolution in VR with rocksolid 90+ fps.

Raytracing can be set in simple way like 3 reflections deep. Or much more with ambient and duspursing effect 6 layer deep.
So raytracing in much simpler way is already done fullscreen in 640p resolution like raytraced quake engine.

The AI Turing cores can be used to upscale low res to high res.
So you could have a 640p raytrace target flipping chain backbuffers and trained NN for upscaling could stretch it to 4K. As post procsessing. 8K TV using AI to do better upscale job from much lower resolutions.
Where with each iteration of training of NN you get better scaling results.

Other uses of in AI in games depends on AI features dev want implement the problem is the large compute difference with non AI hardware mainstream user system and these hardware accelerated AI high-end.

Most games will still use the lower mainstream fixed load . Maybe some do scalable AI feature. But giving AI and Physics scalable setting like GFX is rarely done.

BAttlefield 2 had AI and bot slider.
Some cuda PhysX enable games have heavy physics settings. But that nV pushing it .
Now they need to do extra shadow and reflection heavy optional settings. Nv will be pushing that to by some dev scoring with gamework.

I stick with my Vega56 and wait the independant reviews of mostly 2070 because the bigger ones are not relevant due to extreem pricing. And also curiously about DXR
 

Jon flint

Jon flint
Dammit, I cracked. Pre-odered the EVGA RTX 2080TI XC. Don't know what happened, I was so adamant wouldn't pre order without seeing benchmarks, missus is gonna kill me [uhh]
 

GuruNot

GuruNot
Jezzer said:
I'm with you, I just looked on ebuyer.com (UK) @ the lastest prices for the 2080ti and WOW (in a bad way), easy for me to resist now.
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ebuyer are taking the with their pre-order pricing for the EVGA 2080Ti's .....

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC ULTRAEVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC
scan.co.uk£1249.99£1206.98
overclockers.co.uk£1319.99£1249.99
ebuyer.com£1700.98£1576.98


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Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
I have not played for a year really, have not had the inclination, but will be back again.
In the meantime I got a new PC, my Intel 2600 K was getting old, so a AMD 2700 X was acquired, and my GTX is getting a bit old also, so an Evga 2080 TI it is, and hopefully I have thee patience to wait for Pimax's 5 k or 8 k VR, then I am set to go.
The reason for the AMD CPU is I use my PC for heave work related rendering.

And then I will live on Instant noodles the rest of the year. :)

Cheers Cmdr's
 

Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
Hi Patrick
I have not got money for that!!!
I did get my Ryzen 2700x and Asus Rog Strix 470x Gaming motherboard, 32 Gig Ram, Samsung Evo 970 500 nvme, and a spare 240 ssd, a 1 tb ordinary HD and a Fractal Design RC 6 cabinet. Put it all together and it would not boot, with my old Geforce gfx 780 graphics card. Got no screen at start up and a non supported graphics card. Hmmmm, everything was ok , but no boot screen.
I replaced the gtx 780 with an oooooooold Radeon card and tjeps! the thing shoved on the monitor, bott screen and all. Now I lost patience with this, and went to my PC pusher and let the dogs out and got a Asus 2080 TI, a $ 1700 , I had not calculated on just now, but anyway THAT installed right away and the whole rig is just marvelous, very, very silent, extremely responsive, boot in about 7 seconds, it performs likewise in Autocad, Revit, In-design, Photoshop, and Mathematica.
I am pleased. I was not so much pleased of the $ 3000 layout, but on the other hand if it lives as long as my former Intel 2600 K system , it will be fine, about 7 years. (My former parents in law have my old 1 st. generation MacPro , 12 years and still doing its thing (Battery kaput))

Cheers Patrick Fly safe
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Comrade Napoleon said:
Hi Patrick
I have not got money for that!!!
I did get my Ryzen 2700x and Asus Rog Strix 470x Gaming motherboard, 32 Gig Ram, Samsung Evo 970 500 nvme, and a spare 240 ssd, a 1 tb ordinary HD and a Fractal Design RC 6 cabinet. Put it all together and it would not boot, with my old Geforce gfx 780 graphics card. Got no screen at start up and a non supported graphics card. Hmmmm, everything was ok , but no boot screen.
I replaced the gtx 780 with an oooooooold Radeon card and tjeps! the thing shoved on the monitor, bott screen and all. Now I lost patience with this, and went to my PC pusher and let the dogs out and got a Asus 2080 TI, a $ 1700 , I had not calculated on just now, but anyway THAT installed right away and the whole rig is just marvelous, very, very silent, extremely responsive, boot in about 7 seconds, it performs likewise in Autocad, Revit, In-design, Photoshop, and Mathematica.
I am pleased. I was not so much pleased of the $ 3000 layout, but on the other hand if it lives as long as my former Intel 2600 K system , it will be fine, about 7 years. (My former parents in law have my old 1 st. generation MacPro , 12 years and still doing its thing (Battery kaput))

Cheers Patrick Fly safe
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A beautiful configuration here.

A pain for your bank account.

Fly safe ! Cmdr.

And good noodles.

:)
 
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