Oceania Pack - What do we think of it now?

“These animals aren’t common where I’m from so we don’t need them, or any more from that region” can go down as my absolute least favourite comment of all time.
I understand, but at the same time everyone is only talking about their personal wants/needs (even if it isn't phrased that way half the time). For example, me with North America. IMO in terms of zoo-building it's the most boring region in the world to me because it's just so utterly irrelevant to my personal zoo experience. Oceanian zoos just don't have an abundance of North American species (European zoos hardly have much either). So that's my POV on the matter.

I don't really need any more European animals either (especially not the wild boar). I'd like every remaining DLC to focus solely on Central/South America, Asia, and Africa.
 
So here is what I think NOW about the Oceania Pack!🌴
ANIMALS:
The Tasmanian Devil is my 2# fav animal in the game for obvious reasons.

The Kiwi is also one of my fav animals in the game, the Quokka such a adorable creature and unique so even that it wasn't was on my most wanted animals it's still very nice and welcomed addition to our game.

Little Blue Penguin I'm not sure how I feel about it at the same time they are so cute and beautiful and unique penguins but at the same time I wish we could get the Tree Kangaroo instead, nothing against the Blue Penguin but I just want the Tree Kangaroo SO badly!

And the Flying Fox, beautiful animal and frontier nailed them but I had hope for Lorikeets or something like that, so it's my least fav animal in the pack, but it give me hope that if we will get Rainforest Pack or something like that it can include the Two-Toed Sloth (I'm off-topic but still lol)

So I will rank the animals 9.5/10

SCENERY:
The scenery pieces are so FREAKING goood!
I LOVE the netting that we got (Even though I wish we could get 0.5 size of it and also that it would been more symmetrical because it can be hard to work with it). The rock wall that we got is a masterpiece, all the new wood is just amazing. The Thatch Roof are so good (and the fact that now it's flexicolor just make me smile so much) and the wood wall set also SO good.
The signs as always are amazing. the statues are also really nice. and the FOLIAGE just speaks from itself, i'm not kidding the foliage in this pack are FREAKING INSANE! I love every foliage (mainly the Silver Fern) and the Lava Rocks are nice and cool but not very usable for me
overall Scenery for me are 9.7/10 (LOL i have to be that annoying)

overall the pack is 9.8/10 for me probably
 
I'm happy with the Oceania pack, although it is not among my favourites.

The animals are good. I mostly play in sandbox with death off, but when I play in franchise I admit that my beloved Tasmanian devils are a pain, since they die too fast.

I love the foliage of the pack, I'm using it quite a lot.

The scenery pieces are too themed for me, except the fence which I love. I don't think I'll use often the wall set and the lack of grided roofs makes them hard to use. The new path is nice in small paths, but the texture is too repetitive when creating large paths or plazas.

So the pack has many nice things, bit I won't use them a lot, so the pack is not my favourite (but still nice).
 
Now that the initial excitement faded a bit, my opinion with regards to realistic building, is that it is a great DLC for anyone located in oceania and a very specialized DLC for the rest of the world. Not that it is a bad thing - Kiwi and Tasmanian Devil are really unique creatures that were heavily requested, and are iconic conservation icons even outside of their native range, they belong to the game for sure.

Little Penguin, Quokka and Spectacled Flying Fox are a bit more specific, but it is important to realize that there are also alot of players from Oceania/Australia and for them, these animals are featured in their zoos, so I cannot really judge these as "not common in zoos". In case of the Penguin, I really hoped for this one, as it is visually the most interesting penguin for me thanks to their blue feathers.

I guess if I was only building zoos located in Europe, like alot of people here, my opinion on the pack would be less optimistic, but even as a European, I like to get to know zoos all around the world and like to build all kind of zoos from time to time, not only European. This DLC inspired me to build New Zealand Zoo for example and I had alot of fun with the different use of foliage and stuff. (I LOVE the foliage from this pack).

Scenery was beautiful, but as I am always saying - I probably did not need these building pieces. I think I have enough pieces to build architecture. I would prefer more pieces to build enclosures with - more mesh pieces, different faux rock and trees, more interactive enrichment options such as sleeping trees, heating rocks etc.
 
It’s my favorite pack still, that hasn’t changed. 3/5 animals are essential for me as someone who’s always wanted to build a zoo in NZ - this pack finally made that possible. To a zoo here, a kiwi (my favorite animal in game now - they slayed with these little guys) and a little blue penguin are just as essential as any lion or giraffe, if not more so. Most major zoos in NZ also have Tasmanian Devils as a staple in Aussie sections. The quokka and the flying fox aren’t as needed to me personally, but I still love them and I’m sure I’ll use them both a ton once I hop back up north to Oz for another project.

As for the scenery, I’ll start off by saying that I adore the foliage. The kiwi wasn’t the only thing necessary for Aotearoa, and I cannot be happier that they paid attention to local flora. They’re already some of my most used pieces and are useful for both local and international zoos - the cabbage trees especially look great when sunken into the ground. My one issue foliage-wise was I just wish that the king fern’s hit box wasn’t absolutely massive.

Now for the the rest, my one major criticism with this pack is that I really wish they commissioned some indigenous artists like they did for the Australia pack. Polynesia (and Oceania as a whole) has been heavily colonized and culturally appropriated, and it’s a shame to see so much generic “tiki culture” scenery (which isn’t very common in zoos anyways) rather than actual Polynesian art, such as the Māori architecture sometimes found in New Zealand zoos for example. Not all of the scenery is like this, and some of it is amazing - some of my favorites in the game and super versatile (I adore that netting!), but I just wish some more research had been done for that part of the set in particular, it’s a bit of a disappointment in an otherwise incredible pack.

Overall it’s a must have for me, even if I think it had the potential to be even better in a few ways.
 
To some, it is probably a silly thing to care about but what still stands out to me as the most important thing about this pack, is that it broke some patterns. Patterns I have wanted to see broken for a while.
The first pack to not feature any Carnivorans and the first pack to include more than 1 bird species. Even though the birds in this case don't really do much to fix the big need for birds in Planet Zoo. It was just a healthy sign that packs don't have to follow some rules of x amount of that or whatever. Which makes me more positive-minded about future packs.

The biggest failure of this pack was the exhibit animal. It really felt like this pack was supposed to give us our first exhibit-bird and I still can't figure out a good reason for why that didn't happen. But even when it couldn't be a bird, the Tuatara also felt like a much more obvious choice. It even has a decent size for the standard exhibit.
Though the flying fox is a decent animal (better than the Lord Howe Island stick insect at least).

The Kiwi and Devil were obvious choices that I think most can agree with no matter their personal opinion. Quokka and Little Penguin are more debatable but I like that they went with a bird and macropod for these spots.

The theme of the set is not one I had much interest in but there are lots of useful pieces in it so I'm satisfied. And it ended up being the reason why all our thatch roofs became flexicolor, big win.

Probably a top 5 pack for me.
 
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Without question, one of my favorite packs. I'll keep it brief:

Incredible, deeply versatile scenery - especially the driftwood and netting, perhaps the most useful pieces since the Conversation Pack's flowers

Stellar animal roster - Taz finally made his debut, the quokka is cute oddball pack that has some meme power for the casual player, the flying fox is a BIG improvement over the fruit bat which makes me cautiously optimistic for a certain flighted animal


Regarding birds: As the self-appointed Godfather of the Bird Mafia, this pack gets a big ol' A+ for me for the penguin and kiwi.
I know folks are disappointed by the lack of lorikeets, but I'm holding out hope (I knew they're making it because they would have put rainbow sprinkles on the mocktail in the livestream lolololol).
And more so, we got TWO highly requested habitat birds in one pack, a PZ first. This is the best sign I've seen in a long time that we could seeing be more birds consistently added as a new standard for future packs. And I'm hearing people say "ugh, it's just another penguin and ratite though". All due respect, but I don't want to live in a world where more penguins is seen as a bad thing. And as for the kiwi, sure they're technically a ratite. But it comparison of size, looks, geography, and lifestyle compared to the likes of ostriches and emus? Sorry, but that'd be like they added dolphins, and people were saying "ugh more ungulates again..."​
Fabulous foliage - not much to say besides that
My only point of criticism is to echo @Birb(。・ө・。) about the lack of cultural authenticity with the certain scenery elements. This is one arena Frontier consistently needs improvement in, I felt the same way about the statues in Tropical Pack having a Southeast Asian style of animals not from that part of the world.

All and all, I consider this be far the best pack of the year.

Tropical Pack was good, with some truly essential foliage and a handful of very useful pieces - the stained wood set is a go-to for me when building. However the animal roster, while strong, still suffers as I firmly believe if any environment warrants an animal pack, it'd be the rainforest - no monkey, birds, or Amazonian habitat animals is a big setback for me.

On the flip side, the Arid Animal Pack remains my least favorite pack of the game's entirety for reasons that have been more than overly discussed already.

A very solid 9 out of 10 for me.
 
The Oceania Pack is a solid pack in my opinion. I, like a lot of others, would have preferred something else over the quokka. I'm not a huge fan of the bat, but I can look past that. Unpopular opinion, I prefer Arid over it. But I think it offers great additions and the scenery pieces are wonderful!
 
The pack is good. It's me who's lacking interest in playing PZ recently. It's like I keep on building habitats for animals I don't really want to build for, or let's say - animals I don't want to build for at this point, cause my favorite animal is missing and this is the animal I really want to build for right now. I made a habitat for it every now and then, but... of course it's empty and this is everything but satisfying :/

Of course this isn't the fault of the Oceania pack or the animals that came with it. It's just me.
 
You know the saying, in each of us are two wolfs.
One of the wolfs sees this pack as something i wont use in forever. The scenery is very neat and i like it alot, but besides the netting and thatch wall it really wasnt spectacular, but still generally solid. The animals are a mixed back. I like the devil, its an icon and currently spreading through zoos around the world and i even have seen them myself, making them the only animal in this pack that feels right in most non oceanian zoos. The quokka is both a yay and a nay as i love what it is, a small filler macropod for oceania, but at the same time the brush tailed bretong would have done all the same things while being more endangerd and actually quite common in both europe and north america, so even if the quokka was the only animal in this pack i used so far i admitedly mostly pretended it to be the bretong, but still better then nothing in that category.
The birds though. Oh The birds.
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What do we have here?
The stunning and beautiful victoria crowned pidgeon, commonly found in many tropical houses?
Is it the magpie goose? Finally our first species of waterfowl and one of the most unique and ancient ones still alive at that?
Is it the black swan, propaply one of the most efficent animals that would be usefull to literally anyone?
Is it the budgie, rainbow lorikeet, kea, a cockatoo or maybe even a kookaboora to finally introduce aviarys birds to the game at a moment that felt so right for them?

I could continue this stick but to cut to the chase we got a 3. Penguin and a walking potato thats borderline only usefull for new zealand zoos.
Great.
Oh also they choose a whacky exhibit bat when australia is the one place that could really justify another normal exhibit like a frilled lizard, tuatara or bearded dragon, animals that while not the most exciting would add nicly into our current exhibit selection.

So good scenery, 1,75 animals i like, let down otherwise. Props worst pack for me personally


Meanwhile the other wolf tells the first one to shut up.
Was the pack pretty useless to me? Yes but thats not the point of the pack.
The point of the pack is to expand on oceania for players from oceania and then yeah duh all the picks are great
Tassie no brainer, was good still is good, quokka? The quokka is kept way more frequently in oceania then the brettong and while i would have prefered the bretong who cares the quokka is easily the more iconic animal. Kiwi? I dislike the kiwi with a passion but you cant do an oceania pack without it. Its newzealands most iconic animal and in every new zealand zoo so ofcourse it needs to be in this pack.
Little blue penguin? Is it another penguin? Yes but its also the only penguin thats kept in oceanian zoos and very visually distinct and also introduces new gameplay opportunitys with its smaller size. They are also found across the costs of tasmania new zealand and southern australia so they cover alot of ground for the pack.
The bat still sucks but oh well. There isnt a clear better choice besides yk ditching the bat, as the globally kept flying foxes are allmost all from africa and asia and they picked the one which looks the coolest, which i can respect.
From what it does for the game, easily an above average pack and by far the most impactfull of this year so far.

As you might have noticed, im torn on this pack.
Its very much not for me but thats okay, it was amazing for many other people with good reason and unlike other packs i dislike or do nothing for me this pack brings i agree with the macro decision that its trying to do.
Its not for me and its likly not for you, but this pack single handidly made this game a whole lot better for everybody that wants to build in oceania and thats propaply the biggest honor you can say about a pack titled oceania pack.
I also really appreciate that it isnt called islands pack, good job frontier you learned
 
The stunning and beautiful victoria crowned pidgeon, commonly found in many tropical houses?
Is it the magpie goose? Finally our first species of waterfowl and one of the most unique and ancient ones still alive at that?
Is it the black swan, propaply one of the most efficent animals that would be usefull to literally anyone?
Is it the budgie, rainbow lorikeet, kea, a cockatoo or maybe even a kookaboora to finally introduce aviarys birds to the game at a moment that felt so right for them?
Tbf, a lot of the species you listed would need a lot of attention and time put into their models and design, and seeing how the kiwi was really requested and was basically a given for this pack, it made sense that we got the penguin.
 
Tbf, a lot of the species you listed would need a lot of attention and time put into their models and design, and seeing how the kiwi was really requested and was basically a given for this pack, it made sense that we got the penguin.
It also made sense in general but while i understand the decision its just that while the bird technically gave us 2 birds it really has not scratched that itch of why i want birds. Cause i want birds for the new opportunitys they bring not to see a number of birds in the game go up, thats just a neat extra.

But in general my personal wishfullfillent version of the pack of tassie, magpie goose, brushtailed bettong, victoria crowned pidgeon and tuatara might have made me very happy but its defenetly far less marketable and while it satisfies me idk if it would scratch the same itch that the oceania pack did for those that absolutly love it
 
But the kiwi did bring us a new kind of bird, it got a new animation set and everything.
I think a lot of the ''realistic'' players asking for birds, really just want the basic and versatile choices covered before getting stuff like kiwis and shoebills.
Outside of New Zealand, Kiwis in most cases are kind of the crown jewel on top of an already impressive bird collection. Adding kiwis to a zoo that otherwise only got flamingos and peafowls feels somewhat awkward if that makes sense.

And with so few birds in the game, it is important to get species you can easily use again and again. The most logical use of the Kiwi for ''realistic'' players is either if you built a zoo in New Zealand or if you built a zoo with a nocturnal house. And I don't think a lot of players would end up doing these things more than once.
I always expected the Kiwi to show up one day, and it makes sense to add this bird to Planet Zoo for a lot of other reasons. So I'm totally fine with it being here, I just hope Frontier knows that for a lot of people, this animal doesn't really do anything to fill the bird-shaped hole in the game.
 
I think a lot of the ''realistic'' players asking for birds, really just want the basic and versatile choices covered before getting stuff like kiwis and shoebills.
Outside of New Zealand, Kiwis in most cases are kind of the crown jewel on top of an already impressive bird collection. Adding kiwis to a zoo that otherwise only got flamingos and peafowls feels somewhat awkward if that makes sense.

And with so few birds in the game, it is important to get species you can easily use again and again. The most logical use of the Kiwi for ''realistic'' players is either if you built a zoo in New Zealand or if you built a zoo with a nocturnal house. And I don't think a lot of players would end up doing these things more than once.
I always expected the Kiwi to show up one day, and it makes sense to add this bird to Planet Zoo for a lot of other reasons. So I'm totally fine with it being here, I just hope Frontier knows that for a lot of people, this animal doesn't really do anything to fill the bird-shaped hole in the game.
I just want some waterfowl okay?
Just one duck and whatever pack gives it to me and i dont care if i hate everything else about it it still be above average
 
Scenery is fantastic, possibly the best of any pack as a whole. Animals are fine in the sense of filling player requests but none are ones that I would use in my zoos.
 
I actually haven't used much of the scenery so far. I do love the wooden sticks fence. It is exactly what I wanted in my zoo and the pieces of brick. I have most of the animals in my zoo. Just the blue penguin and quokka were not necessary I think. My feeling is that the pack is ok. Not bad but not necessary either. Just nice to have.
 
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