Oculus Dash / Home 2.0 - Experiences & Tips Thread

Elite in particular requires quite a bit of consultation of outside apps to really play the game. For instance, I use eddb.io from my web browser to check the nearest station that has a 5A fuel scoop. Until now there hasn't been a robust solution for having a web browser window inside of your VR space, so you had to take off your headset and reference your monitor. This new feature allows you to pin any window from your desktop into your VR space. I mentioned a web browser, but the possibilities are endless: discord, audio players, 3rd party Elite tools, etc.

Having said that, I'm seeing reports on Reddit that Chrome doesn't initialize properly in Dash. Hopefully that'll get fixed soon, but in the meantime it sounds like Firefox works just fine.

Thank you!

Wanders off to find out where all this is..... [noob]
 
Some nice touches here and there.

BUT..

THE INCESSANT background music, whenever dash is open or in home you have the elevator music constantly in the background, only volume sliders I have found so far is for the full system itself need to be removed ASAP.

Pinning looks like it works excellently.

Then I try to move my ship or control in any way, turns out it Elite doesn't have focus and if you focus elite you loose the pinned frames.

Menu button on the left hand touch controller while in home will bring up another panel where you can select settings for home and you can turn the music down there :)

Have to say my initial impressions are not good, it seems really clunky to use and doesn't seem to want to react to input very well. Though I do like the ability to see my desktop properly and interact with it, but I kept ending up with multiple copies of the same desktop open with no apparent way of closing them, minimise yes, close no.
 
Slightly disappointed that Frontier aren't one of the first to the party, as VR seems to play well with their cobra engine and I wouldn't have thought it'd take much to implement. Any word from the devs on this?
 
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I managed to pin Firefox in my cockpit and was able to control my ship but I couldn't find any way of bringing the window forward. No idea how I managed it but it looked really good.
Also, I found if I started Elite from Oculus Home Library, it would fail with an authentication error. If I run it from within Dash (desktop view) it starts and runs fine but won't let me pin any windows into the cockpit or bring up a keyboard.

All this will be moot once FD extracts the digit and updates Elite to be 100% compatible I'm sure. Personally I cannot wait because this is going to be yet another game changer

How did you pin it it in the right position since you have to do it outside the game?
 
Just logged on again this morning UK time, and faced with another Oculus update. Not a small one either. Anyone point me in the right direction on how to get info on what these downloads are and also a download progress bar, so i can see if it is gonna be a short one or long one?
Thanks again. o7
 
How did you pin it it in the right position since you have to do it outside the game?

Personally, I went into the game, have my touch controllers within grabbing distance just to the side of my joystick and throttle. Pick up the right touch controller, press the menu button while in Elite, it opens dash.
From there I know my cockpit well enough to know roughly where putting a window (youtube in my case as a test case for long jumps or supercruise times) so that it won't hinder what info I need.

When I click the menu button again, it's clear to see any adjustments I need to make, move it up, right, forward, back or scale up or down.

In the dash menu, hold your hand towards the pinned window you have, use the grab button (closest to the palms) to grab and move the window. While it is grabbed, you can use the joystick left and right to scale the window size and forward back to move forward and back the position of it.

Hope this helps
 
Just logged on again this morning UK time, and faced with another Oculus update. Not a small one either. Anyone point me in the right direction on how to get info on what these downloads are and also a download progress bar, so i can see if it is gonna be a short one or long one?
Thanks again. o7

I think if you go to library, there should be a tab marked updates?
 
I think if you go to library, there should be a tab marked updates?

You are right, but when you go in there it shows downloading, but no info on size or progress of download. The 'More Info ' Button just seems to give the update number with no patch notes or patch size?
 
Had my first go with 2.0 today. No time to actually try Elite but I spent an hour playing with the new home and Dash stuff. Ho hum ... I dunno but I wasn't as excited as I expected to be (the fact I'm feeling lousy with a December cold probably didn't help). My biggest problems were:

a) I'm not at all sure about the use of simply pointing with the index finger to do things - I kept finding myself pointing the laser pointer when I didn't mean to or vice versa.

b) I wish we could toggle the mode where you can re-arrange your home - I kept accidentally grabbing and moving my stuff around while trying to grab the basketball.

c) I kept ending up with too many windows open - in particular the tutorial window kept appearing behind other things and I then had to try and peer around things like the home window to read the tutorial window.

d) The virtual keyboard seemed incredibly flaky - I kept ending up with two keyboards, one floating below my browser window and one embedded at the bottom of my browser window. I couldn't seem to type english, ended up with some cyrillic characters and then the backspace wouldn't work. At one point my virtual keyboard changed shape becomming much narrower - no idea what I did to cause that. When I eventually quit Oculus my keyboard and mouse were completely messed up. My left mouse button was doing middle mouse button things amd double click wasn't working (as if I had a control or shift key held down).

Well, it IS beta so I guess I just need to give it some time. Hopefully will get to try it with Elite at the weekend.

Re: having things like pinned windows open within Elite - does anyone know if it's possible to save the layout or do you have to carefully open and position windows every time you want to play Elite?
 
Thanks for keeping us informed. How does the Oculus beta work? Do you feel that they are open to suggestions for improvement?
 
I tried pinning Netflix (through chrome) to my cockpit by using Dash. I started watching the Abyss but found that elite had lost focus so my controller didn't work, I regained focus by using the mouse (and taking my headset off) and the controller worked but in my pinned window I had the abyss running with the focused mirror of elite right in the middle of it!! As i was more intent on getting some bounties for the CG I left it like that so I could hear the mixed audio of the abyss and elite and see the periphery of the Abyss behind the window of elite!!! Not ideal. Also whenever I pushed the Dash button and went to the void to mess with the window and my desktop, my framerate dipped to single figures. I only have an i5 6400 and a 1070 with 16gb ddr4 so maybe it is very bound by the power of CPU.

Anyone who has tried this out care to tell me how i can retain the focus on elite but not have that little window of the game overlayed over any video i am watching??
 
Some more feedback on my experiences with the Oculus beta. For me, it works rather flawlessly, played 3 hours in ED yesterday without any problems, not even to speak of BSOD. I'm using the latest NVidia driver (.43) on an ASUS GTX1070 OC STRIX, it worked right from the start. One point I should possibly note is that I chose 'user-defined upgrade' and 'fresh install' upon setup. I didn't pin anything inside ED (will still have to find out how that works), but mainly used the Oculus remote control for switching between the desktop and ED. And that's great, as now I can have Firefox, EDDiscovery, EDDB and all that within the VR environment and don't have to take off the Rift or peek through the nosehole when I want to check something or set focus, and I like having these on a large screen anyway. Switching can be done via the menu button on the remote control, otherwise, it works like a laser pointer that has the functionality of the left mouse button, and that's ok with me. The legibility of text is ok for me, given the low resolution of the Rift. Afterwards, I spent some time with the Touch Controllers and the new Oculus environment, you obviously need these to use the full customization options for Oculus Home. Sitting mostly at the desktop, though, for me the Touch Controllers are not optimal, as space is limited and I'm always at the risk of throwing something down from my desk or hitting the HOTAS, possibly the monitor even. Then, I'm left-handed and tend to point with the left controller, always clicking the wrong menu button and generally had problems pointing at and then grabbing something, but possibly that's just me. Generally, I found the remote control to be much more precise, and generally better to handle. It's nice that staying inside VR all the time is possible at all now, and so the Dash is a big improvement for me. Using the Oculus version of ED btw, the update for that one was a little larger than the 5.8 MB for the standalone version (and took considerably more time). All in all, I'm quite content, and ED performance didn't noticably degrade for me.

O7,
[noob]
 
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Re: having things like pinned windows open within Elite - does anyone know if it's possible to save the layout or do you have to carefully open and position windows every time you want to play Elite?

There is no save function to my knowledge, you shouldn't need to save a layout function when Elite supports Dash fully as you'll be able to clearly see where windows are being placed in relation to the cockpit. Hopefully that will make the task of pinning apps that much easier and a hundread times more natural.
 
Anyone who has tried this out care to tell me how i can retain the focus on elite but not have that little window of the game overlayed over any video i am watching??

The secret is to not fullscreen Netflix as that takes focus away from Elite. You can refocus Elite at anytime in the Void by bringing up the virtual desktop and clicking on the Elite desktop Window.

To be honest I found Netflix (used via Firefox) to be a huge resource hog which caused headtracking issues while I was playing Elite with it pinned. I tried a 1080p MKV in VLC and it had no visible impact on my machines performance while pinned.

I was going to look and see if there is a Netflix App on the MS Store, I've never looked for one before.
 
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The secret is to not fullscreen Netflix as that takes focus away from Elite. You can refocus Elite at anytime in the Void by bringing up the virtual desktop and clicking on the Elite desktop Window.

To be honest I found Netflix (used via Firefox) to be a huge resource hog which caused headtracking issues while I was playing Elite with it pinned. I tried a 1080p MKV in VLC and it had no visible impact on my machines performance while pinned.

I was going to look and see if there is a Netflix App on the MS Store, I've never looked for one before.
There is.

It's terrible.

It supports bitstreaming of audio though, but who cares it's overly compressed DD+ anyways.
 
There is.

It's terrible.

It supports bitstreaming of audio though, but who cares it's overly compressed DD+ anyways.

Cool, I guess I'll have to judge how bad it is based on how well it performs in Dash - if its provides better performance than the Firefox / Netflix combo I tested yesterday then I'd have to class that as fit for purpose in this instance.
 
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I tried pinning Netflix (through chrome) to my cockpit by using Dash. I started watching the Abyss but found that elite had lost focus so my controller didn't work, I regained focus by using the mouse (and taking my headset off) and the controller worked but in my pinned window I had the abyss running with the focused mirror of elite right in the middle of it!! As i was more intent on getting some bounties for the CG I left it like that so I could hear the mixed audio of the abyss and elite and see the periphery of the Abyss behind the window of elite!!! Not ideal. Also whenever I pushed the Dash button and went to the void to mess with the window and my desktop, my framerate dipped to single figures. I only have an i5 6400 and a 1070 with 16gb ddr4 so maybe it is very bound by the power of CPU.

Anyone who has tried this out care to tell me how i can retain the focus on elite but not have that little window of the game overlayed over any video i am watching??
You can if you pull out the chrome browser as a secondary screen by pointing at netflix then grab button
 
You can if you pull out the chrome browser as a secondary screen by pointing at netflix then grab button

How was performance when you had netflix open in Chrome and pinned inside Elite? In Firefox I found it to really lower performance and cause headtracking glitches and stutter in both Elite and Oculus Home after I'd quit Elite.
 
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