Oculus Rift & Windows 10 Thread

Yololo69

Yololo69
Ok thanks for all advices. Better to wait effectivelly and see how things are going on. I saw the "one year to decide to upgrade" stuff so yeah, i'll wait for sure :)
 

sabertooth

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Well, Windows 10 has directx 12, when FD upgrade ED to directx 12 I will upgrade. directx 12 suppose to give huge performance boost. So in theory, DK2 + ED +win 10 +directx 12 = very smooth experience. In reality ????? big question marks.
 

Karnath

Karnath
I'm going to grab the ISO download tonight (servers permitting) and make a bootable disc & install it fresh on a separate ssd
Re-download ED, install the Oculus stuff and see how it goes

If it's a total mess, I'll just go back to my original ssd and no harm done
 

Mazhurg

Mazhurg
Do NOT upgrade for now.

The OR drivers and Windows 10 are NOT compatible.

All kinds of pain on the official sites so far. Everyone is waiting on Oculus to update the drivers for Win 10.
 

YoBuck

YoBuck
Frank said:
Possible reasons why Microsoft missed out Windows 9..

- Like you say, to make Windows 8 look like a thing of the past

- They wanted it to have the same number as Apple's OS

- Because as every Microsoft Suit knows, Windows 10 is "one better" than Windows 9

- The police were disposing a large heap of Cannabis by burning it right next door to the executives taking the decision

- They thought people might confuse if with Windows 95 or 98

- And here's my personal choice.. They didn't want people who know a bit of German making fun of it.

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Possible reasons why Microsoft missed out Windows 9..

- Like you say, to make Windows 8 look like a thing of the past

- They wanted it to have the same number as Apple's OS

- Because as every Microsoft Suit knows, Windows 10 is "one better" than Windows 9

- The police were disposing a large heap of Cannabis by burning it right next door to the executives taking the decision

- They thought people might confuse if with Windows 95 or 98

- And here's my personal choice.. They didn't want people who know a bit of German making fun of it.
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they called it windows 10 as there are a billion commands already scripted for win9* where the * is the last prefix of the year. It just avoids that issue.
 

sabertooth

S
Mazhurg said:
Do NOT upgrade for now.

The OR drivers and Windows 10 are NOT compatible.

All kinds of pain on the official sites so far. Everyone is waiting on Oculus to update the drivers for Win 10.
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Thats strange because i tested win 10 beta and i had no problems with ED or Oculus drivers. It ran smooth. Just to be clear, I didnt upgrade or test the release win 10.
 

Karnath

Karnath
Well I managed to get it downloaded ok, made a bootable disc and decided to have a quick read over at the oculus forums which was littered with complaints of it not working.

So I thought is take advantage of the free upgrade while I browsed the forums and update my laptop, things went well at first all installed then keyboard on the laptop stopped working followed by several BSOD's and then just a nightmare

Ended up spending the rest of the night formatting the laptop and putting a fresh install on that.

From what I have read people have managed to get it working under Windows 10 but their methods/work arounds looked a pain in the rear

Sorry ranix but going to have to dodge that bullet for a while till things settle down
 

drkaii

drkaii
VR & Windows 10 Thread

Hi guys,

WARNING: The below success story applies to upgrading. Apparently installing from scratch causes massive oculus runtime issues. See page 2.

EDIT (which stands for Elite Dangerous IT):

I've installed Win10 (upgraded from Win8) and everything is GREEN.

Installation took 1-2 hours, really nice nap :)

Everything is almost how I left it. Only things changed/to be done so far are my start menu (I was using metro which is gone, new start menu is great and didn't take long to rebuild to my liking) and Nvidia drivers need to be installed as they won't survive the transfer. That was fine. Only been here half an hour so there may be other things that crop up.

Now on to ED:

Ok, works PERFECTLY. Nothing to do, tweak, worry about. Nothing. Oculus works spectacularly. In fact, OR, works better:

  • It seems to me to be perfectly smooth. Like, I would get perfect smoothness before, but there's something even more perfect about it. Haven't had time to put my finger on it but it sort of feels like there was a teeny issue with persistence before that's now completely gone. The kind of thing you don't notice till it's gone
  • It still stutters in supercruise, but that stutter is significantly less violent. Again, hard to explain, the individual stutters are shorter...if that makes sense...which makes you feel much less sick and annoyed. The latency is just lower even during the stutters. This is a real thing, not subtle at all. I noticed it immediately.
  • Finally, the alt-tab is now just shy of instant. No flickering, no long delay and shock of overbrightness. It just alt-tabs as if it were borderless window, but slliiiightly slower than instant. But the lack of flickering, having to HOLD alt tab to make sure it sends during the flickering, all gone :) !!!


Things that need to be found out:


Conclusion: GET WINDOWS 10! It not only causes zero issues, it actually improves ED in 3 very significant and important ways (that I've noticed so far). Get it while it's free and easy!!!!!

But bare this in mind!
Rick_Black said:
I have installed windows 10 on 2 of my 3 systems one upgraded great the other not so well. The OP is misleading it worked awesome for you I get that and that's great but everyone's system is different with small or big differences in hardware, when it was made ect ect. The point is that no one should assume that everything will go smoothly upgrading is a risk and things can go wrong so be prepared back your stuff up before and be ready to reinstall your old system if things dont work correctly yet. I think windows 10 is great but its not completely ready yet and does not work well with every persons computer, yet so if you are not prepared to possibly go through some frustrations wait and give it some time before you upgrade.
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Thanks,

CMDR Dr. Kaii (that's my real name now)
 
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Karnath

Karnath
Well first thing for me is to get rid of those horrible forced automatic updates, which can completely break your system as I learned the hard way with my laptop

Here is a video which explains a way to give you control back of what gets updated

It's untested on the retail release, but will be trying this tonight

[video=youtube;eEzZUxV7JPI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEzZUxV7JPI[/video]

Edit:

In addition to the above, which Windows tends to ignore your requests I recommend this guide as well including the tool supplied by Microsoft giving the ability to hide problematic updates, which prevents Windows re-installing it at every reboot

Guide
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

Microsoft tool
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930
 
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AndyC77

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I'm an old fart and don't like new fangled thingamajigs so I'm staying firmly with Windows 7. It does everything I want and never have a problem with it unlike the abomination that was vista. I have used Windows 8 on other computers and the auto updates seem to be a pain and it likes to think its an I phone with all them stupid apps. What will I gain from Windows 10?
 

drkaii

drkaii
Karnath said:
Yes you can download the ISO file from the link below and just burn yourself a copy

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
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Ok so then can you answer the questions in the OP???!?!!!?!?! :D :D :D

And Andy, if you were born in 77 that only makes you 37ish, that's not old! Windows 8 is fantastic, shame you didn't enjoy it. I've had it since launch and I only used ONE app - Netflix. That's a GREAT app! You can effectively ignore the apps, just like you can ignore the background themes that got introduced in windows 7. Otherwise, it's just Windows 7, with a bigger start menu and better optimisations and features :)
 
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AndyC77

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drkaii said:
Ok so then can you answer the questions in the OP???!?!!!?!?! :D :D :D

And Andy, if you were born in 77 that only makes you 37ish, that's not old! Windows 8 is fantastic, shame you didn't enjoy it. I've had it since launch and I only used ONE app - Netflix. That's a GREAT app! You can effectively ignore the apps, just like you can ignore the background themes that got introduced in windows 7. Otherwise, it's just Windows 7, with a bigger start menu and better optimisations and features :)
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Thanks mate, I'm 38. I think an OS should be as simple as possible and keep out of my way. Generally I am very happy with 7 so I will use at long as possible. I am set in my ways like that.
 

Vladimar Rubicon

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I "okay'd" the update, but I'm having second thoughts. I may not allow it to update this soon and wait and see in maybe a few months. The problem with Windows updates is that they change things so dramatically and in "Sideways" moves...it's like getting a new car and suddenly the brake is on the other side of the accelerator. Then, after millions of complaints, they put it back....but move the light switch into the back seat.
 

iced01

I
Kaii

I work in IT as well. I've had retail Windows 10 for about 2 weeks early through our enterprise licensing. I like Windows 10 but the drivers need serious work. We are seeing serious issues with solid state drives, some south bridge controllers on motherboards and a crap on of NVidia issue. Id hold of a few weeks in updating unless you just have to. Updated Oculus SDK and runtimes that officially support Windows 10 should be out in the next week or two as well.
 

Deimos-GOW

D
Had a quick test, it works.

I had a working config before I upgraded to Win 10 and I have only updated geforce drivers however there are a couple of issues.

Direct mode is non functional, worked on 8.1. ED crashes on launch. Extended mode works but has an unexpected issue where windows does not identify the display correctly. Windows identifies it as 3, ED sees it as 4.
View reset seems to be broken too (supposed to be F12 right?) still trying to figure this one out.
 
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