Odyssey and Horizons comparison (screenshots)

[Evangelion Angel]

I feel like some of the issues regarding lightning can be seen just by the few comparison screens that I made in Ody and Horizons while trying to get them in the exactly same ship alignment. While textures themselves look a lot better in Ody (and galaxy looks amazing), I feel like the lightning still has a long way to go in order to serve it justice.

Ship and everything in space are way too dark, even when facing a sun that's not super far away and you lose a ton of detail due to it so in return the ship ends up looking better with old textures in Horizons because you can actually see them. Same goes with reflections, which are minor here but... it just feels better in Horizons. Same goes for thrusters, Odyssey ones don't even give any sort of glow.

On top of that, Odyssey cockpit is way too bright (feels insanely artificial) comparing to Horizons, both from inside and outside of the ship. You can see the comparisons in the imgur link below:

https://imgur.com/a/DubeY9I

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/DubeY9I

 

[jackoisinthehouse]

Agree 100% dont know why anybody cant see it.

Odyssey is getting better no doubt, but some observations side to side with Horizon.

Some easy quickie comparison to check what improved and whats missing. Odyssey picture was taken using Ultra as graphics options to get the most of the new graphics settings. Horizon just regular custom preset. There are some things missing still in Odyssey, like the Gutamaya signature...

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[Mogen Teras]

Yeah it's why I get irrationally irritated when I see people posting like "well I took a screenshot of this nice planet so you're wrong Odyssey looks way better."

I mean even FDev admitted half their rendering engine isn't working properly. Like the devs themselves are agreeing it's busted, and yet we still have these white knight forumdads going around trying to tell people nothing is wrong.

 

[Far Beyond Driven]

Take for yourself and look at others (Inara is a good place) to see Odyssey screenshots without the sky and shadows (Terminator line) and actually look at the planet surfaces / textures up close.

Many of the Odyssey shots in the official screen thread are heavily cherry picked and some are even using external enhancement. When you take off the shadow and the atmosphere its pretty bad imo. The majority of the planets I have seen look bad. Maybe due to glitches and problems with load and rendering maybe its just a big downgrade idk.

All the ship shots under lighting look better in Horizons to me. Many of my skins have changed and are not what I bought.

I am waiting for patch 6 to even bother checking in to see if performance is better so I can try out ground fps more indepth.

I still feel like the money I spent was for a regression to the game I enjoyed but was bored of. If I knew what this really was I probably wouldnt have boughr it. By the time I can enjoy what the expansion was itll probably be on sale for a tenner.

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

The overblown cockpit lighting is due to too many people complaining that it was too dark in Odyssey, so FDEV changed it to what it is now. I liked the darker version, but the game has a lot more pressing issues than this.

 

[MishaTX]

Yeah it's why I get irrationally irritated when I see people posting like "well I took a screenshot of this nice planet so you're wrong Odyssey looks way better."

I mean even FDev admitted half their rendering engine isn't working properly. Like the devs themselves are agreeing it's busted, and yet we still have these white knight forumdads going around trying to tell people nothing is wrong.

I don't know who these "forum dads" telling everybody that nothing is wrong are. As a matter of fact, I've never known them to claim that "nothing was wrong", quite to the contrary. Their "crime" seems to be suggesting that not EVERYTHING is wrong, according to some.

As somebody who is eagerly awaiting the point where I can throw my money at FD and get the expansion (it would make no sense for me at this point since my machine, according to sources INCLUDING those "white knighting forum dads", wouldn't be able to run it in a way that wouldn't drive me insane), I value the input from both sides. The reports of things that definitely don't work because it gives me a better idea of things that need to be done AND the reports of things that definitely DO work, because it gives me an idea of what it WILL be once the bugs have been ironed out.

But then again, I'm just some dude on the Internet who likes to hear both sides of an issue, rather than just one.

 

[Far Beyond Driven]

What is the term forum dad supposed to imply? Honest question.

 

[Stressfest]

I think all you need do is type doomed, dying or I'm leaving in the subject matter and they all come out of the woodwork scurrying and wheezing like the fat kid at the proverbial icecream shop.

 

[babelfisch]

Yeah it's why I get irrationally irritated when I see people posting like "well I took a screenshot of this nice planet so you're wrong Odyssey looks way better."

You don't need to get irritated because it doesn't happen, you just make it up.

People post good looking Odyssey screenshots because some people claimed that everything in it is a downgrade and that nothing looks close to the trailers. So now we can't even prove them wrong because as soon as we show a few screens you are calling us white knight forum dads, which is just a lame form of trolling.

I mean even FDev admitted half their rendering engine isn't working properly. Like the devs themselves are agreeing it's busted, and yet we still have these white knight forumdads going around trying to tell people nothing is wrong.

Who tells people that nothing is wrong? Can you show me those white knight forums dads please? No you can't, you just like to make crap up because it makes you feel better about yourself, which is even worse than the nonsense you have written above.

 

[MishaTX]

What is the term forum dad supposed to imply? Honest question.

It used to be, if my memory serves me (and anybody please correct me if I'm wrong, I often am), "somebody endlessly complaining about not being able to get a G5'ed Corvette within an hour of starting the game because they don't have enough time due to their responsibilities to spend more than 15 minutes a week on a game", but it now seems to mean "anybody who doesn't think that everything that FD does or say is utter crap and they all ought to die in a fire."

Again, I could be wrong.

 

[Evangelion Angel]

The overblown cockpit lighting is due to too many people complaining that it was too dark in Odyssey, so FDEV changed it to what it is now. I liked the darker version, but the game has a lot more pressing issues than this.

Yeah, I'm aware and I also kind of liked the darker version -at least comparing to this - but I still find that Horizons had the perfect balance of darkness and light and it didn't make you either squint to see stuff or glow in your face like a supernova (an overexaggeration but still )

As far as the planet surfaces go, from my experience of landing on a ton of planets in the last week, I'm pretty disappointed with Odyssey. I'll edit this post with that gallery link once I'm done with it, hope to be done in the coming days as I didn't log much after I made this one.

 

[amigacooke]

What is the term forum dad supposed to imply? Honest question.

Obviously it implies wisdom that those of lesser years cannot hope to aspire to!

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

Are these the same ones who make Forum Dad Jokes?

 

[Mogen Teras]

Who tells people that nothing is wrong? Can you show me those white knight forums dads please? No you can't, you just like to make crap up because it makes you feel better about yourself, which is even worse than the nonsense you have written above.

Do we just follow different forums or something? Or are you purposefully ignoring the MYRIAD threads and comments of people trying to imply there is nothing wrong with the game? I only come here for like 15 minutes every day or two and i STILL can't avoid seeing them

So take your self-righteous attitude and take it somewhere else.

 

[thistle]

Do we just follow different forums or something? Or are you purposefully ignoring the MYRIAD threads and comments of people trying to imply there is nothing wrong with the game? I only come here for like 15 minutes every day or two and i STILL can't avoid seeing them

So take your self-righteous attitude and take it somewhere else.

The irony.

 

[Mogen Teras]

The irony.

oH yOu gOt mE thErE.

What a nice comment that adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.

 

[thistle]

oH yOu gOt mE thErE.

What a nice comment that adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.

I'm not the one who has successfully derailed the thread.

To be clear - you killed it in post#3

 

[babelfisch]

Do we just follow different forums or something? Or are you purposefully ignoring the MYRIAD threads and comments of people trying to imply there is nothing wrong with the game? I only come here for like 15 minutes every day or two and i STILL can't avoid seeing them

So take your self-righteous attitude and take it somewhere else.

So apparently you can't simply show me an example even though you see it everywhere allegedly.

There may be a few people who rarely say something negative, but that's their right. And you have people who will disagree with the importance of certain issues or who see the problems in other areas than you. But that's about it. This forum has enough negativity already, there is no reason to imagine it.

Unlike you, when I open the forums I see negativity and complaining everywhere, some of it very much justified, some I might argue about and some just outright ridiculous. But there certainly isn't a brigade of white knight forum dads trying to silence everyone who doesn't think that Odyssey is the best thing that ever happened to this world, far from it.

So instead of making up random nonsense, how about you just accept that not everyone shares your opinion everywhere and all the time?

 

[Bottom Hat]

Maybe the term "Forum Baby" needs to be used to describe some of the more shouty and angry people here?

I obviously don't refer to those who are already in the forum dad category, as the forum baby has indicated.

But then, I'm a forum geriatric I imagine, or a silver knight....!?

 

[Koma Pahu]

Maybe the term "Forum Baby" needs to be used to describe some of the more shouty and angry people here?

I obviously don't refer to those who are already in the forum dad category, as the forum baby has indicated.

But then, I'm a forum geriatric I imagine, or a silver knight....!?

"Forum Toddler" - it's exactly how they behave.