So after a few missions from ports about retrieving data, looking for recipes for Rosa Dayette, and a few others, I've came to the conclusion that everything worth doing is illegal, and everything will get you killed. What fun is that? I literally can't do a thing without incurring a bounty or dying, they seem to pick me up with an unfathomable range. I honestly wish I didn't buy Odyssey. Am I doing something wrong? Are you guys having fun with it?
Odyssey... Just my 2 cents
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The answer is probably yes and yes. Someone will come along and give you advice soon about how to do these missions, these aren't just walk in grab what you need and walk out, those sorts of missions are available, you are essentially hostile the moment you try to steal data. I have walked into settlements, made deliveries and done pickups and etc, without doing anything illegal there isn't any problem, downloading data from the terminal is illegal, stealing stuff from the settlement is illegal, these will all get you attacked.
It's weird. I shoot everyone I see and steal everything that isn't nailed down - in plain view - and everyone is upset with me. Everyone else is just jealous of me having fun, this life is poop. 
I guess I'm just upset I've died repeatedly and failed every mission. There doesn't seem to be any "easy" ones to get you started. I die errytiem.
Restoration and reactivation missions. For money ground CZs (even if you die you still get rich). With a few bux visit the Sharing is Caring thread and pick up some G3 gear (just remember to update if you take anything) if you're still having trouble.
To be fair, the one and only time I went into foot combat to clear scavengers from a base the second enemy killed me, shot the first one dead from ambush, another one came rushing up and in the excitement I forgot to turn my shields on and dead...sent to prison ship, at least I experienced that game loop once. Haven't done it since lol. I was probably using the wrong weapon, forgot to turn my shields on, didn't jump and run the right way, it's likely I did everything wrong it's possible to do wrong, so there's at least one player here as bad as you if not worse!
Restore missions will get you the stuff you require and they're not illegal.
Don't shoot scav ships just the scavs and you won't get wanted.
Good advice...
... and, if things are still a bit tough, play along with a friend or two... Missions in EDO are sharable with your group. Even the simplest delivery / collection ones.
don´t forget fleeing is always an option if things go south.
you are highly mobile and the npc´s have stormtrooper accuracy(the star wars ones, not the real)
avoid detection for as long as you can.
use the energy-link in overload mode to kill people silently
if a npc has a red symbol above them, they are trying to call for reinforcements. make them your priority target
i usually sneak until i´ve deactivated the settlement alarms. at this point half of the npc´s are dead and i can go in guns blazing.
you are highly mobile and the npc´s have stormtrooper accuracy(the star wars ones, not the real)
avoid detection for as long as you can.
use the energy-link in overload mode to kill people silently
if a npc has a red symbol above them, they are trying to call for reinforcements. make them your priority target
i usually sneak until i´ve deactivated the settlement alarms. at this point half of the npc´s are dead and i can go in guns blazing.
Technically, downloading recipes, cocktail or culinary, isn't illegal, but if guards are aggroing on you, you might have clicked on something that was. If I start to DL something illegal in the bar, I immediately rush out and jump on the roof, giving the DL time to finish. Other locations have similar solutions.
It's certainly true that riskier ventures offer greater rewards, and it's not always clear (at least, to me) when a mission is a little bit woh, a little bit way (Fast Show), so examine that gift horse carefully.
There are also indicators in the HUD for when you're carrying something that might get you in trouble, and I still get blindsided when a scan turns nasty. Due to a bounty, most likely, but I haven't sussed how to tell when one might get me in trouble in the current location.
I felt the same way when I started off. Here's what I did:
- Signed up with Frontline Solutions and ran a few combat zones
- I learned the combat mechanics and which weapons I liked
- Learned the keyboard controls (I run HOTAS for ship/SRV and KB/Mouse for on-foot)
- Figured out what upgrades I wanted for my suits and weapons by learning how I do combat
- Saw my "Mercenary" rank increase, and that always motivates me
- Learned that you can actually earn decent credits running combat zones
- Watched StealthBoy's (@Ydiss) videos which taught me a LOT
- I can't overstate how much I learned from watching these
- Watched the G5 Loadout video by @Gadnok to learn about the suit engineering
- Contributed to and benefited from the "The Great Pre-Upgraded Gear Sharing is Caring Thread" to get G3 gear
Also, not everything you do is illegal. Downloading data, for example, is not necessarily illegal. You can freely download cocktail recipes, opinion polls, evacuation protocols and some other necessary data. The key is looking for two things:
- Is there a little bell icon on the data entry? If so, that tells you it will set off an alarm
- Is there a purple bar that appears on the download screen when you select a piece of data? That is the alert telling you it is illegal
Hope this helps!
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Yes - but it starts off tough, no question. Once you've figured it out and upgraded your gear a bit - and it probably took you a while to do that for the spaceflight bit, right? - it's not all that difficult. But it definitely has the vertical learning cliff traditional for Elite games.
Some early tips:
1) Salvage missions (the ones which don't go to bases) and many courier missions (deliver/retrieve package) are either entirely legal, or illegal only in ways which don't matter (you're salvaging prohibited goods from a place where there's no law enforcement anyway). They're also in contexts where there's either no enemies or - some salvage missions - there's weak enemies you can legally flatten with dumbfires from your ship, or use the Scorpion SRV to massively outrange and outdamage them.
2) Restore/reactivate missions are also entirely legal, but you might have more scavengers to fight. Again, you can take them out with SRV or ship, and they'll stop coming once the base is powered back up. These are good sources of all sorts of loot because no-one is going to stop you taking the bits which aren't nailed down.
3) Combat is much easier once you've got G2 or G3 gear - the starting G1 gear is really weak if you're not an FPS expert. On Thursdays, have a look around Pioneer Supplies for G2 gear on sale (if you're out in Colonia for Dayette, you'll have to get very lucky to get G3 - but you should be able to upgrade your Maverick and Dominator suits to G2, and get a few G2 weapons, after a bit of looking around ... the systems on the edge of the region are generally better)
4) Do the tutorial if you haven't already. It doesn't cover everything you need to know in Odyssey by a long way, but it'll help with restore-type missions at least.
5) If all else fails, exobiology is perfectly safe and a good excuse to walk/drive/fly around and enjoy the scenery.
One big thing to remember is that assumptions from playing Horizons for years don't necessarily hold in Odyssey. It works in its own way - and one of the differences is its approach to danger. In Horizons, it's very hard to fail once you've had a bit of practice - all enemies can be avoided, most activities are legal, etc. - but failure can be extremely costly, if you die with lots of exploration data aboard, or without the cash for a rebuy. In Odyssey, it's the opposite - it's very easy to fail in a wide range of interesting ways, especially when you're learning - but the costs of failure are generally a token fine and some flight time. (In this respect, Odyssey is much closer to how the first three games approached space flight) Similarly, low-intensity CZs (and once you've mastered them, the higher-intensity ones) are very good places to learn combat and test new loadouts, because if/when you die on foot in one you just respawn and carry on. The absolute worst that can happen is you lose the battle and only get paid for your kills ... if you're thinking of Horizons CZs which are some of the toughest NPC combat available, Odyssey ones are nothing like that.
And, don't forget you can do 'bad guy bowling'... drive at them full speed and hit the hand brake as soon as you hit them to see how far they fly!
Almost certainly.
Absolutely. The bugs are annoying, but improving.
Most missions are illegal, for combat ones. Your best bet if you want to pewpew is to check on https://edtools.cc/pve for a system with "guaranteed nearby anarchy faction to beat up". Then check if said anarchy faction have any online settlements in the system the "good" guys send you in. If the answer is yes, then you likely will have "kill pirates" and "assassinate pirate dude" as mission.
The "online" part is important, if the settlement is offline, you'll still get mission to kill the pirates there, but there won't be any. Not a bug I was told, probably a feature then
Or you can do the CZ, if you can handle the discount multiplayer shooter gameplay, but singleplayer. The skybox is pretty with the ships pewpewing. Not that it matters for the gameplay, but still.
It's ok in limited exposure. Plant scanning is the best part IMO, since it actually deepened an existing gameplay loop, even if it's very repetitive very fast.
The rest is still full of bugs, issues, poor optimization, grind, RNG, strange decisions and limited content. Even now. It's like CQC, cheap and not really part of the game. Feel like some cheap game addon glued to it. Like all those big MMOs/license who did a cheap battle royale to try to milk the PUBG's players for their money. Or DUST 514 for Eve online.
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Running away without returning fire is the way Not to get bounties...
And if you do it in an anarchy settlement, like Joshi's Laboratory in Ogmar, you won't even receive a fine for getting seen stealing something, or trying to clone an ID, so once you run back to your ship, dodging and weaving if necessary, you can just SC up 40 ls or so, and come back down again. Elsewhere, you'd have to land on a pad, and pay that fine before disembarking, or pew pew all over, IIRC.
'Citation needed', here, but I think it's impossible to find yourself in a correction centre, far from your ship, if you are killed/shot into unconsciousness at an anarchy settlement. You just find yourself in your ship (as it's a good bet it survived your 'death'), above the settlement. The biggest likely loss is an SRV, if it was left out of the ship. Possibly what you were carrying, though I recall keeping the stuff I got in trouble for taking?
I'm not sure about this, because I haven't been 'killed' at Joshi's for a while. I'm back there now combining massacres with assassination missions, so I start by sniping anyone who might catch me breaking into the command centre to disable the alarms and even though I sometimes misjudge how far out of 'sight' other NPCs are, and can't kill them all in time when they aggro, getting away has never been a problem.
One thing I have noticed is that, as cool as it might look moving around a building with your sight lined up, you turn much slower than when you're 'firing from the hip', which sucks when you're trying to draw a bead on a guard, even a worker, who's dancing around. There's a mod that speeds that up (but also an increased accuracy hip fire mod, so tough call), but as so long as you have a good weapon, if you also 'dance like nobody's watching' (who'll live to tell about it, anyway) and shoot from the hip, you're probably just as well off, with good shields, anyway.
It's quite easy to find g3 suits and weapons in the bubble. Unfortunately if they have a mod it might not be the best one for the suit.. I even found a G3 Maverick with exp backpack on a wednesday evening. IMO it's worth checking the concourse on a station when you dock for the first time in a week, at least until you have g3 of what you want or need (at least for edh players that have a lot of spare cash laying around)..
Also don't dump too much on the anarchies, they are under heavy fire from players and the bgs consequences.. Maybe even do some inf+ missions for them..
Also don't dump too much on the anarchies, they are under heavy fire from players and the bgs consequences.. Maybe even do some inf+ missions for them..
The mechanics of so much of ED are unexplained and very complex, so you really need this forum and the wider internet of commanders to make sense of any of it! But I'd also recommend Stealthboy's marvellous videos. I was impressed he got such a strong handle on everything so quickly.
Legal missions (or those where you don't get bounties and notoriety) take place in Anarchy settlements, and most of those have been farmed to extinction across the bubble.
However, if you get yourself to Dainayiman or Xianchiem (next door to each other), or any systems in a 20ly radius around, you'll find a load of legal missions targeting the 25-28 anarchy settlements. (I manipulated influence, won wars and manipulated things to set up those two systems with a large number of guilt-free settlements for all to enjoy.)
One system has the Dainayiman Blue something or other as the anarchy faction, and the second one is the Xiancheim Drug Empire. (NOT Xiancheim Empire League)
Dying is another matter. It's more of a stealth game than a Rambo vs half the army sort of shooter.