Okay, I admit it. I don't know how to find Raw Mat's.

I seem to remember that bombing brain trees for selenium was nerfed in a patch a while back. I haven’t tried it (ever) but I thought I’d post this. Maybe someone will confirm or refute this.
 
If you're not already aware (I think you are, but just in case) these days people use limpets to collect from brain trees en masse from their ships (after area-effect shells shake down every tree in the area.)

It was an interesting way to vacuum up an entire forest in a few minutes, however I seen reports that Wednesday's Trailblazers update has changed limpet behavior in a way that prevents this method, so it's probably dead now ...which means a lot of people will soon be trying to figure out new ways to find/harvest raw materials, so now is a good time to be thinking about raw materials again; no-one is an expert any more so anyone can become the guru that others learn from

(At least once people take a pause from busily colonizing systems :D )
 
Can confirm this. Tried to get some selenium from brain trees in HR 3230 2h ago using the flak launcher and limpets. The flak functioned like I remembered, the limpets do head toward the material but then crash into the ground and vanish. Didn't have a SRV with me so I have to return :LOL:, but I did observe the above by getting really close to the brain trees.
 
BTW - I have been at the spire sites yesterday and today and the collector gathering technique is not working there either - using flak or flechette launcher same result - collector fails each time - outside draw distance and within collector range - so collectors must be being destroyed by contacting ground or spires.
 
I used to know, but apparently not any more. 😟

I used to look for a planet that was rich in whatever I was looking for and had surface Volcanism.
I'd scan the planet and that'd reveal a bunch of geological POIs on the surface.
I'd head down to one of the POIs and it'd be an area of Geysers, Fumaroles or whatever.
Deploy SRV, spend a bit of time shooting stuff and I'd collect a dozen or so of the thing I was looking for, along with a big pile of "lesser" things too.

I know this got changed just before I took my break from ED and, since I got back, it's all been "crashed Anaconda sites" and "Brain Trees" followed by visits to a mat' trader.
Thing is, I don't want to rely on "loot crates" to find stuff.
I want to know how to find it naturally... like I used to.

I've just been trying to find a handful of Selenium, for example, to finish a bit of engineering.
Went to Wardhr A9a, which I have bookmarked as being a source of Selenium.
It still has Volcanism.
Scan planet and most of it turns blue with a few patches of white.
No Surface Geo' POIs, though, even though the map says I can choose between All, Geysers and Fumaroles.

Surely we're not expected to just fly down to the surface and just eyeball for whatever we need, or go back to randomly driving about in an SRV, looking for randomly spawning outcrops etc?

I used to enjoy driving the SRV to get raws but the terrain changes made that a bit harsh. 🤷‍♂️
The terrain generators introduced with Odyssey essentially broke surface mining on procedurally generated bodies. FDEV didn't care any more than they have ever cared about the rocks floating in the entrances to hangar bays on surface establishments introduced by the same terrain generators. Which is to say there's no way of knowing how much they do or don't care because they've never said or done anything about it.

Worlds developed by hand have not suffered as badly, so the planets with biological sources are still good. HIP 15669 A 3 is a body in the bubble that is still almost as drivable as it was before. You can spend some time chasing signals for metallic outcroppings and pick up a little Selenium if you feel like driving. It's a high gravity world, so they just crumble where the rock was and don't fly all over. Unfortunately, Odyssey also introduced the bug where if you touch a mat with an SRV wheel, it will shoot away into oblivion, so you have to scoop carefully when you are driving over a cluster.

Or, of course, missions reward raw mats now. Sometimes I just go to a mission board where I am allied with all factions and look for something that rewards selenium. It's probably less frustration in the long run to just go shoot brain trees.
 
I've since seen reports that limpet collection of brain trees is still possible but is (obviously) now trickier to get it to work. I haven't tried it myself but IIRC the tips were to be 45 degrees away from the trees (not 90 degrees / above them), and the ship must be absolutely still with regards to altitude; the slightest change in height will doom the limpets. I assume that being outside of tree render range is required.
 
I used to know, but apparently not any more. 😟

I used to look for a planet that was rich in whatever I was looking for and had surface Volcanism.
I'd scan the planet and that'd reveal a bunch of geological POIs on the surface.
I'd head down to one of the POIs and it'd be an area of Geysers, Fumaroles or whatever.
Deploy SRV, spend a bit of time shooting stuff and I'd collect a dozen or so of the thing I was looking for, along with a big pile of "lesser" things too.

I know this got changed just before I took my break from ED and, since I got back, it's all been "crashed Anaconda sites" and "Brain Trees" followed by visits to a mat' trader.
Thing is, I don't want to rely on "loot crates" to find stuff.
I want to know how to find it naturally... like I used to.

I've just been trying to find a handful of Selenium, for example, to finish a bit of engineering.
Went to Wardhr A9a, which I have bookmarked as being a source of Selenium.
It still has Volcanism.
Scan planet and most of it turns blue with a few patches of white.
No Surface Geo' POIs, though, even though the map says I can choose between All, Geysers and Fumaroles.

Surely we're not expected to just fly down to the surface and just eyeball for whatever we need, or go back to randomly driving about in an SRV, looking for randomly spawning outcrops etc?
One of the easiest and natural ways to find raw materials is to do so in the missions panel. Filter the list by materials, find missions with raw materials as rewards & repeat. =) I prefer to get mine via mining primarily & some missions.
 
Well, I just filled up Encoded at Jameson Crash Site, using the fly up close and use the ship's scanner, it still works. Leaving the planet outside of orbit, then back does work to reset.

I'm now at Dav's Hope driving the loop, relog to menu does work to reset. Just have to do it MANY times for volume, but it does still work.

Raw? That's going to be my next adventure. Oh joy, can't wait!

I'm going to figure this stuff out, somehow. Materials are too important not to!
 
Some raw mats have been added to mission rewards, but even with this "improvement" sourcing them in EDO is terribly implemented.
 
Honestly don't think I'd mind the new terrain so much if I could get out, laser nodes off, pick them up by hand. But for some reason I have to crawl over everything in my SRV. 🤷‍♂️
 
I've since seen reports that limpet collection of brain trees is still possible but is (obviously) now trickier to get it to work. I haven't tried it myself but IIRC the tips were to be 45 degrees away from the trees (not 90 degrees / above them), and the ship must be absolutely still with regards to altitude; the slightest change in height will doom the limpets. I assume that being outside of tree render range is required.
Has anybody tried to launch Horizon (not Odyssey), and see if it still works there as it used to?
 
OK, update: tried fetching selenium from brain trees using flak & limpets again, nada doesn’t matter if I go at it in a 45°, 90°, 20° or 30° angle and even tried upside down – limpets head toward materials and crash into the ground. Not saying it can’t be done anymore, just saying I couldn’t anymore and would need detailed instructions.

The flak still shakes it out of the tree, so maybe teaming up is an idea? One uses a ship flak, the other collects with SRV than switch. Reason: The brain trees can easily be shot at from SRV, but one doesn’t know if the three will give selenium or magnesium. If they have been flaked the stuff lies on the ground and you can filter in ‘left pane, contacts’. Haven’t tried teaming up (new player, just 2,5 months into the game).

Gathering selenium was a bit of a pain, but I also went for the other 4G elements in HIP 36601 & Outotz LS-K D8-3 from crystal shards. Collecting materials from the crystal shards in a SRV was ok and somewhat fun. I like playing efficiently (I try :geek:), all in all this was IMHO faster the doing mission.

But suum cuique, that’s what I like about this game – everyone can play with their own play-style :).
 
Has anybody tried to launch Horizon (not Odyssey), and see if it still works there as it used to?
That was the solution when Odyssey launched, but it was killed when Horizons was migrated into the 4.0 environment and support was dropped for legacy. They share the same planet surfaces now. It still works in legacy, but that is a separate save now, so it doesn't do you any good in live.
 
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