On behalf of pirates everywhere...

Space is dangerous and adds content. Pirating is a lifestyle choice and you have a choice , pay or not , either is content. Someone just wanting to kill you is still content as there are , no rules.
 
You are too kind. I'd take out his thrusters, pulled up beside him and explain to him how the self-destruct mechanism work :)
 
As we cannot tell a True Scotsman, I mean 'pirate' from a twonk I'm afraid you all get treated as potential twonks, especially as there is no penalty to being a twonk. Anyone other than a security patrol that interdicts me gets fired upon.
 
Anyone that takes my cargo from me by force is still some lazy pilot that wants the easy way. So you get nothing. Not now, not never. Pirating is wrong anyway you slice it. Your labels like another said is pointless since you all are the same thing.

So prepared to see the back of my ship as it flies off. Or the front of my weapons as they fire back at you. I will never submit. I will never surrender. I will never give you my cargo.

What on Earth makes you think that is the lazy, or easy way?

Managing a ship and it's upgrades and ammo, isn't cheap, yet booty is more rare than rares.

The easy way is Trading. All these guys making millions per hour, by undocking, hitting FSD, docking, rinse and repeat. That seems much easier to me, than flying around trying to eek out a living of couple of tons of cargo, that you may manage to get from a hold-up whilst avoiding Bounty Hunters etc.

Yep, Pirates are lazy and are surely going to win big money and fast! Not.
 
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In my oppinion trading in elite without pirates is very boring. I am trading myself and have been interdicted some times by other players. The "real" pirates communicate with you and you have a chance to "trade" with them... .

Definitely. It keeps me interested and alert. I need to think some strategy and tactics. Otherwise the rare goods circuit is just like wandering around with a shopping cart. Boring.

Tigga caught me at Fujin recently, and let me go because my hold was (not accidentaly) almost empty at that point. In another situation I would probably try to run. Not sure how that would turn out with him. A few times I've escaped pirates with shileds gone and a couple of seconds from destruction, but that's exciting, and if they give me the choice then it's OK.

Better than that idiot in a Viper who interdicted me in Leesti and started shooting immediately shouting "A present from the federation" or some such nonsense. Fortunately he wasn't competant and did no damage.

The only player who's killed me was a CMDR who texted me a greating on approach to a station. I was too busy trying to figure out how send a reply that I forgot to request docking permission, with fatal consequences. I expected "Quick Comms" would reply to last sender, but apparantly not.
 
I was interdicted yesterday by what could be the worst pirate in the game. I know about the name and shame rule so let's call this numpty Cmdr 'give cargo'. Tootling along in my pretty much A rated Cobra and see a hollow contact blasting up behind me, sure enough get interdicted. Was greeted with 'Give cargo', hum, I don't have any, 'Give cargo or I kill u, I got rail gun' no, you don't, I've scanned you, you've got 2 pulses and no brains. 'U warned, CARGO'.

This went on until I got bored, turned round and started to fly off. Yes, my Eagle driving buddy decided to spark up their little lasers and let me have it. I wiped off his shields twice and in the end I got, 'you cheat in game, I am reporting'


You pirate types should use this guy for advertising.


I think you met a Brazilian, this is the Elite Dangerous versions of "gibe moni" -> http://i.imgur.com/4QpQDmT.png
 
What on Earth makes you think that is the lazy, or easy way?

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Because pirates get to pick what targets they want and can clear the minor consequences with a few credits. It's practically a risk free profession done properly. There's less risk than trading in solo. At least there you might get interdicted by a good npc while in an under-armed ship and face millions in losses.

Just to take a wild guess.

By all means, be a pirate, just don't think you're doing anything 'daring', difficult or in need of the rest of the game bending you the knee.
 
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Because pirates get to pick what targets they want and can clear the minor consequences with a few credits. It's practically a risk free profession done properly. There's less risk than trading in solo. At least there you might get interdicted by a good npc while in an under-armed ship and face millions in losses.

Just to take a wild guess.

By all means, be a pirate, just don't think you're doing anything 'daring', difficult or in need of the rest of the game bending you the knee.
Have you ever done it for a sustained period of time? How much money did you make? A lot of people seem to think piracy is about "winning" the fight. It is not. It's about taking as much cargo as you can from those who don't want to give. This is a lot harder than "winning" the fight.

Furthermore, you will pick up fines which are not trivial to clear, you'll also make a lot less than traders. The fines are fairly unavoidable unless you're happy to only scoop part of the drop, which will make you a lot less money.
 
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Sorry OP, from an RPG perspective, regardless whether pirates get pleasure or not from their sub-human, negative life-choice, if I find myself being pirated I wouldn't be too pleased about it (i.e., miserable). So where's the difference? IMO, there is none. ;)
 
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Have you ever done it for a sustained period of time? How much money did you make? A lot of people seem to think piracy is about "winning" the fight. It is not. It's about taking as much cargo as you can from those who don't want to give. This is a lot harder than "winning" the fight.

Furthermore, you will pick up fines which are not trivial to clear, you'll also make a lot less than traders. The fines are fairly unavoidable unless you're happy to only scoop part of the drop, which will make you a lot less money.

I said nothing about money, only risk. Of which there is little or none. If pirates want to engage in risk-free, low reward activities that's up to them. If they could do it with the minimum of preening and chest-beating it'd be even better.
 
I said nothing about money, only risk. Of which there is little or none. If pirates want to engage in risk-free, low reward activities that's up to them. If they could do it with the minimum of preening and chest-beating it'd be even better.
Honestly, it's still more risky than trading. Assuming of course you're trading in a tooled up combat ship, which is will still make more money than piracy and won't have any risks the pirates face.
 
I said nothing about money, only risk. Of which there is little or none. If pirates want to engage in risk-free, low reward activities that's up to them. If they could do it with the minimum of preening and chest-beating it'd be even better.

It does not matter if you like it or not. Pirating as in robbing others for cargo is a valid playstyle.
What we the "honorable" Pirates dislike is beeing put in the same bag as those that do it for "s***s and giggles and plain killing".
 
Good lord...people are actually complaining about Pirates being a thing? That strikes me a bit like logging into a PvP server on any other game and then whining about another player killing you.

Honestly I kinda wish there were MORE players willing enough to be pirates (at least out in my neck of the woods) cause then I'd actually give Bounty Hunting another go, as it stands it gets a tad boring plinking shots at NPCs with wanted statuses. But for now I'll just stick with trading til I get a clipper or a python or something shiny like that.

I mean sure, I haven't been pirated by a player...don't know if I've been interdicted by one cause I usually don't check my scanner but I've yet to fail a non-glitched interdiction (the escape vector just went poof on me once. Hasn't happened since.) but I would honestly LOVE that kind of interaction. And given that I fly in a cargo fitted ASP atm I would be willing to part with 10t or even 20t. But alas...so far while trading my only other interaction with other players has been chats while waiting in a queue for the medium pad at outposts.

And as for insurance...since it's a part of the game it's only a persons fault for not flying with enough to cover it. I always always always always fly with insurance + half in the bank whenever possible. Sure that might mean there's times (especially after buying a new ship) that I'm not always filling up my hold. But that way I know that if I get shot down, or crash into a station....or a bigger ship, I'll have enough to pay for my ship back and have enough left over to start eeking out a profit again.


As for more on topic. If they're after cargo...I'll call them a Pirate. If they just open shot then I'd be more apt to call them either a Marauder or Butcher.
 
People don't play as pirate for the profits - there's little enough profit in it. They play pirate because its fun.
 
It does not matter if you like it or not. Pirating as in robbing others for cargo is a valid playstyle.
What we the "honorable" Pirates dislike is beeing put in the same bag as those that do it for "s***s and giggles and plain killing".

I don't mind pirates. i just wish some of them would stop pretending it's not the EZ-Mode option. Knock yourself out.

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Honestly, it's still more risky than trading. Assuming of course you're trading in a tooled up combat ship, which is will still make more money than piracy and won't have any risks the pirates face.

No it's not traders don't get to pick who attacks them. pirates get to pick who they attack and then get to pay off the consequences. If they choose beyond their abilities then that's a danger they chose.
 
I will attempt combat with any player that enters my system and fails to communicate. I almost always let them live however, since i'm more interested in how human players handle a fight than killing them or taking their stuff. It's not an act of piracy, think of it more like a street race. A semi-forced involuntary street race.
 
Good lord...people are actually complaining about Pirates being a thing? That strikes me a bit like logging into a PvP server on any other game and then whining about another player killing you.

Honestly I kinda wish there were MORE players willing enough to be pirates (at least out in my neck of the woods) cause then I'd actually give Bounty Hunting another go, as it stands it gets a tad boring plinking shots at NPCs with wanted statuses. But for now I'll just stick with trading til I get a clipper or a python or something shiny like that.

I mean sure, I haven't been pirated by a player...don't know if I've been interdicted by one cause I usually don't check my scanner but I've yet to fail a non-glitched interdiction (the escape vector just went poof on me once. Hasn't happened since.) but I would honestly LOVE that kind of interaction. And given that I fly in a cargo fitted ASP atm I would be willing to part with 10t or even 20t. But alas...so far while trading my only other interaction with other players has been chats while waiting in a queue for the medium pad at outposts.

And as for insurance...since it's a part of the game it's only a persons fault for not flying with enough to cover it. I always always always always fly with insurance + half in the bank whenever possible. Sure that might mean there's times (especially after buying a new ship) that I'm not always filling up my hold. But that way I know that if I get shot down, or crash into a station....or a bigger ship, I'll have enough to pay for my ship back and have enough left over to start eeking out a profit again.


As for more on topic. If they're after cargo...I'll call them a Pirate. If they just open shot then I'd be more apt to call them either a Marauder or Butcher.

The problem with human bounty hunting is that the target has to allow you to claim the bounty first. ED features no mechanics/very weak measures to prevent a pirate from escaping. Pirates mostly use cobras (can masslock up to t6), sometimes vipers. There is no ship in the game that can masslock escaping cobra (4 pips engine, nonstop boosting) for enough time to deal the damage needed. I mean sure, you can get a very lucky hit with rails... but what are the chances.
Basically FD dropped the ball on this one.
 
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