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I play in open and have never been drawn into PvP. I really do not understand your problem with open mode. The only time I have been drawn into PvP was in a CZ playing in Mobius group mode. That's why I now play in open, now I know any CMDR is possibly hostile.

Yah, conflict zone PvP is allowed on Mobius. Just not anywhere else.
 
I play in open and have never been drawn into PvP. I really do not understand your problem with open mode. The only time I have been drawn into PvP was in a CZ playing in Mobius group mode. That's why I now play in open, now I know any CMDR is possibly hostile.

It's ok Commander. Understanding is not a requisite for respecting others views. You fly in Open and prefer that. Great. Others fly in PvE and prefer that. Great again. Now all we need is for FD to react. Having one civilian hosting for so many is not reasonable.
 
It's ok Commander. Understanding is not a requisite for respecting others views. You fly in Open and prefer that. Great. Others fly in PvE and prefer that. Great again. Now all we need is for FD to react. Having one civilian hosting for so many is not reasonable.

I was making a point. PvPwhile in a private group mode = 3-4 times. PvP since I have left the group and gone to open = 0

I have already made myself clear on a PVE/Co-op mode, I totally agree with it, I just don't want to see a PVE flag in open.
 
I was making a point. PvPwhile in a private group mode = 3-4 times. PvP since I have left the group and gone to open = 0

I have already made myself clear on a PVE/Co-op mode, I totally agree with it, I just don't want to see a PVE flag in open.

Ah. We agree then. :)

Fly safe
 

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I Agree that mode switching should not be possible.

I have only gone in open 1-2 times since launch, in beta I was always in open combat zones (since release i play differently)

I thought (as many others did) when released we would have multiple saves and also a pure (offline mode but we wont go there) until there are multiple saves i'm staying in solo or group with the occasional switch to open in my sidewinder (to re live some of the old beta fun).

As we don't have multiple saves yet then you cant expect anyone to be locked in any mode.

*why* do you want multiple save, if you don't mind me asking. I only ask because I genuinely can't think of any good reason to want or need it other than having a 'no consequences' griefer mode......
 
*why* do you want multiple save, if you don't mind me asking. I only ask because I genuinely can't think of any good reason to want or need it other than having a 'no consequences' griefer mode......

One good reason is to have an explorer save. It's bad enough spending an hour to fly over to your friend when you want to team up. If you're out exploring and want to jump on and wing up with a friend it's pretty much impossible.
 
*why* do you want multiple save, if you don't mind me asking. I only ask because I genuinely can't think of any good reason to want or need it other than having a 'no consequences' griefer mode......

I would like to try out different roles, I kept my current save as crime free as possible

Since launch i have not done any smuggling exploring bounty hunting or pirating NPC's(are they even worth it with the pitiful cargo they carry) but would like to try those other available roles out.

no to griefer I've only ever defended myself from player attacks never launched one (except back in beta at the Aulin Apocalypse event)
 
*why* do you want multiple save, if you don't mind me asking. I only ask because I genuinely can't think of any good reason to want or need it other than having a 'no consequences' griefer mode......

Although there are some bags out there. Open is far from a no consequences grief-er mode.
 
Although there are some bags out there. Open is far from a no consequences grief-er mode.

This is what open is for:
... try this Attitude:
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1.) Equip a Ship with LESS then 100k Rebuy total, ill suggest a Cobra (you want the extra Speed, kiting is king) with C,D, or E Equipment.
2.) Look for a System you like, and declare it to your Territory. Stay in there. Ist YOURS from now!
3.) If solo, go for Signal Sources. Kill every Wanted you see, as well as every Police Unit. Rob every unwanted with Cargo hatch - then destroy them after. Pick up every 1k+ Loot, and smuggle it into the Bases. Dont care for the consequences. You want to be wanted. Never ever pay your Bountys. Youre proud of them!
4.) If your Mates (if they share this whole Attitude, otherwise ist senseless) come online, form a Group. Go to RES and/or Beacons, and swarm a single BIG Playership. Focus it down at all costs, ill suggest a Rocket-Spam. Money (Ammo) is nothing you aim for.. Again, this is YOUR Territory! Let them pay the big rebuy. It was their fault being there. its YOUR Territory!
5.) Do only Missions which spread chaos, anarchy and war over your Territory. Youre a criminal, justice and law is what you fight against.
6.) Never retreat, never surrender, never Combatlog. Stay in Open at 100% of your time. Put your Balls on the Table.
7.) Enjoy that you and your fellow criminal friends change a hole System to a place, where you wanna be. As a criminal, as a proud one....
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This is how me and my friends play. The Fun is endless. The Game is aSandbox - Create your own way to play the game. Do NOT play for Credits, being rich is the part which destroys the fun for 99% of the Players in the long run. If you can buy enough Ammo to spread Havoc, its all fine.
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Rhazul Redman and the A.C.A.B. CREW

I actually repped that! It was a brilliant suggestion for open players that might be bored. I might actually try that my self some time. But that play style, even though there is nothing wrong with it, doesn't really fit in a PVE open mode now does it. We need to respect players like "Rhazul", he's not a greifer. He's just a PVP minded player. If PVE minded players respect folks like him. I have a hunch he'll respect us.
 
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This ^^^^^ is exactly why people should not be allowed to mode switch.... It sounds to me like you play your main game in Solo and go into open just for some combat action.... That is just wrong in so many ways.....

I don't get it? Why is it wrong? Wait, I think I get it, you feel the need for me to be available in Open, as I build up, so I can get my fair share of lickens, as I go. So you can have a fair chance of stomping me when I'm weak, and chasing me from open to another mode.
 
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It seems to me that the biggest issue with this is the disparity between the "cost" of destruction. If for example FD set it up that if another pilots federation member destroys another then ALL losses will be covered. i.e. someone gets pk'd and they lose nothing, the game respawns them with EVERYTHING they had (cargo, exploration data etc) at the nearest friendly station. A bit of inconvenience, maybe a little bit of time loss but not millions upon millions of credits and hours upon hours of gaming time lost.

Do that and we wouldn't really need an open PvE mode as PvP wouldn't have the awful consequences that victims currently have.

Surely not too hard to implement as the game already knows what state a players craft is in for saves and it could fit in with the lore quite easily (I think).
 
It seems to me that the biggest issue with this is the disparity between the "cost" of destruction. If for example FD set it up that if another pilots federation member destroys another then ALL losses will be covered. i.e. someone gets pk'd and they lose nothing, the game respawns them with EVERYTHING they had (cargo, exploration data etc) at the nearest friendly station. A bit of inconvenience, maybe a little bit of time loss but not millions upon millions of credits and hours upon hours of gaming time lost.

Do that and we wouldn't really need an open PvE mode as PvP wouldn't have the awful consequences that victims currently have.

Surely not too hard to implement as the game already knows what state a players craft is in for saves and it could fit in with the lore quite easily (I think).

Have you been smoking my Meds?
 
Why isn't this in the Open vs Solo vs Groups thread?

because it's not about Open vs. Group (or shoudn't be)

it's about making PvE group play possible without one single commander needed to maintain it.

open play has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

Edit: should read "open play as it is at the moment"
 
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