Opinion: Engineers is a side activity which rewards varied playing style
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Basically, keep the rare stuff (materials), nerf the rest to a degree much like PL offerings. That's game knowledge as in what you need and not, learnt by playing the game. It's why we can pin blueprints.
If it's a "commodity", well they can be bought or identify which can't be bought...haven't seen a commodity yet that can't be bought. If like painite then you gotta hold onto it until best price and if you have it then cash it in quickly. Imagine if they made these things illegal in certain systems beyond just piracy conerns...would be fun?
Could be a lot worse.
Like every boy scout knows, be prepared. Oh, and with learning any new system then there is homework to be done. That's part of the challenge. Pretty sure I'm no expert but I like mysteries and working things out for myself. One of the reasons I game.
I'm not opposed to players having their own storage.
I am opposed to them being able to trade with others. Need I mention other games and how bad that can be.
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Good thread with many good opinions, thank you Cmdr's
When I am in bubble again I will put a finger in the air (?) and see what way the wind is blowing and make the best of it. I may not like it and if I dont I will be whining and moaning on the forums incessantly
. It is my right. I might even christen my FAS " The Moaner"
But honestly give this update a few days, changes have already been made, somebody is listening.
Maybe this is another storm in the cup
Cheers Cmdr's
When I am in bubble again I will put a finger in the air (?) and see what way the wind is blowing and make the best of it. I may not like it and if I dont I will be whining and moaning on the forums incessantly
. It is my right. I might even christen my FAS " The Moaner" But honestly give this update a few days, changes have already been made, somebody is listening.
Maybe this is another storm in the cup
Cheers Cmdr's
How about a tradition of meeting at 10pm daily (local time) at engineer bases for players who want to buy/sell/trade blueprint commodities instead of grinding for them. (Thoughts for and against are in the link )
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Hmmm ... yes and no. Even with their engi-mods removed, I still get regularly humiliated by even small ships with Deadly/Elite rank. While I can usually beat or run away from attacking NPC ships, the engi upgrades will go a long way to reducing the stress. If you're a combat oriented pilot, that's one thing. When you're a trader of explorer, those engi mods, *especially* to your thrusters, is pretty much a must.
And here you are, not outside doing a healthier hobby, but posting on a game forum.
*chuckle*
Meso
This is my feeling. Say you grind for 6 months then uprgade every ship to the max. Then what? Smuggle some slaves, do some mining, haul some freight or...
Totally agree!
After about an hour of searching for specific bits and materials, I quickly decided that it wasn't much fun. Then I realised that if I just went about doing the varied stuff I would usually do, I'd build up a nice collection of various bits and materials - you can't really avoid them!
Every now and again I'll check what I've got, see what upgrades I can get and visit the appropriate engineer.
It reiterates something I've always found true for this game - it's more about the journey than the destination
I hope this approach works, because that's what I plan on doing. I also quickly got bored when I started actually looking for materials. I hope all engineer materials are saved as persistent materials, because I've just been selling all the other junk that actually takes up cargo space.
I wish there were a few less things with very similar names. Every time I see a mission for Blah Blah Firmware, I have to go and look up if it is one of the interesting ones, or one that falls into your lap all the time. It is quite immersion breaking, I nearly need a separate PC to run all my spreadsheets.
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So, like power play, more stuff to not do because it is layer after layer of RNG frustration. The difference is that, this time, I paid extra for it
Just because you pay for a game doesn't mean that you'll be good at it.
You "seem" to be arguing a P2W thing when you're guaranteed winning if you pay when this game does not work in that way.
If anything, this game now makes players involve themselves in more aspects of the game, rather than play it in a one-dimensional fashion.
I like that kinda variety.
Dedicated players of any particular playstyle are gonna find it hard though because they will have to do other things to get their candy.
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With Storage of Engineering Commodities, I am sure this will be redoubled as well, as the ones you gain from missions go into a warehouse and every so often you will be able to peruse you supplies and fill up your ship and head off to an Engineer to see what that pinned blueprint brings.
I have been surprised, pleasantly surprised, how even the Tier 1 Blueprints make noticeable changes to your ship. A half light year increase in jump range may not see like much, be meant a 4 jump detour became a 1 jump crossing of a gap previously just too large.
I have been surprised, pleasantly surprised, how even the Tier 1 Blueprints make noticeable changes to your ship. A half light year increase in jump range may not see like much, be meant a 4 jump detour became a 1 jump crossing of a gap previously just too large.
Ok. Not even close to what I said. I said I paid extra for content that people are saying just ignore. What's the point of extra for stuff that isn't there to be used? It is a cool concept with a horrible execution.
In other words: horizons cost extra. Ignoring extra content kinda defeats the purpose of paying for extra content.
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Wow. The only honest answer to that is: just because you learned to read at school doesn't mean that you're good at it?
Please read again what he said. His point is, both PowerPlay and now Engineers are designed as "the normal player best don't care for it and never use it". Frontier is building up a serious reputation here: whatever they deliver, it is built to be ignored. But why should i buy something ever again, if the basic information is: making a candle out of the money and burning it gives me more for if than if i give it to Frontier? There are other games out there, where we actually get something fun for our money.
So I took the plunge and reset my save... Have to say it's a freeing feeling being back at the start.
Now I'm slowly building up my cash & materials. The missions make a big difference. In a way it's sad I had to lose 18 months of playing, but I guess it's a reflection of how I get my enjoyment from games..
Now the engineers are a side action to me, whereas before they were primary because I didn't want to do anything else.
Now I'm slowly building up my cash & materials. The missions make a big difference. In a way it's sad I had to lose 18 months of playing, but I guess it's a reflection of how I get my enjoyment from games..
Now the engineers are a side action to me, whereas before they were primary because I didn't want to do anything else.
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You make a good argument, but I still disagree though
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These updates are launched to expand the base experience of the game.
In my opinion the base game is severly lacking in features.
One look at the DDF archives shows exactly what this game could have been.
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The expansions thus far have added very little to the game that I actually enjoy.
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Powerplay looks a lot like my regular day job, so I don;t bother with that.
Wings is not for me, I have no friends.
CQC has nothing to do with Elite IMO.
Horizons is a good thing, but the way POIs and random stuff is implemented really turns me off.
Engineers is an excercise in frustration for me so far. All these nice goodies hanging in front of your face but they're all attached to strings that pull them up when you try to reach for them.
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FD needs to get their act together and add fun stuff that adds depth to the base game.
I understand that fun and depth are subjective though.
