Opinions on $99 Lenovo WMR headset...

I've been waiting for some time now to get a VR headset for playing elite, and FWIW I don't have any other games I'm planning on using VR with. I've been eyeing the Oculus Rift, but for $399, it's not a small investment when you consider that the market is still growing. Adding in the SDE and limited FOV, I'm still not sold that it's completely worth it.

I've also been keeping an eye on the Pimax 8K, and given the recent reviews on the machine it'd take to run reasonably, I won't be there for a while.

I came across this deal: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...0a20001ww_explorer_mixed_reality_headset.html

I've read mixed reviews on the Lenovo, but they haven't been horrid. However, the price point is excellent, but my main question for those that have tried the Vive/Rift vs the Lenovo headset, is the additional $300 (or more) worth what you get?

And if it makes any difference on my PC specs, I've got a GTX1080 and Ryzen 2800x.

Thanks!

I have one, it's good, and imho worth $99. I've also seen the whole kit for $179.

Mine recently broke (grandkids use it a lot) and I sent it back to get fixed (1 year warranty!!!)

When it came back last week I gave it a go in Elite and was impressed how similar it is to my Rift.

Like all gen 1 HMDs you need to get the headset in the correct position, and you need to look straight ahead. I also run with SS at 1 and HMD qual at 1.25 or 1.5 depending on the PC.

Good luck!
 

We're not so lucky here in Canada, still $599, ridiculous.

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/lenovo...le-with-windows-mixed-reality/PRD4V3H5E3XT6XL

Should say, the bundle is cheaper elsewhere in Canada, but there's no excuse for the price difference at Walmart. For me to get it elsewhere it would have to be shipped, and isn't there a Walmart around every corner.[smile]
 
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Ah, you know more than me then, nice one and hope you enjoy.

Could you let me know how you get on with the 1080? I'm planning on upgrading the gpu soonish and haven't been able to figure out I if the 1080 will allow max settings or not. I'd like to make the best of the explorer but don't want to go overboard. Thanks

Just wanted to follow up and give you a quick update.

Got the headset working last night, haven't pushed the limits for the graphical settings yet, but it's been buttery smooth so far. Very impressed with the quality and tracking. I agree that the sweet spot is on the small side, but I'm very happy with the purchase.

IMO, for the cost of the 1080 right now, it's a great card for this. I'll push my settings to the maximum tonight to see how it is and report back.
 
Just wanted to follow up and give you a quick update.

Got the headset working last night, haven't pushed the limits for the graphical settings yet, but it's been buttery smooth so far. Very impressed with the quality and tracking. I agree that the sweet spot is on the small side, but I'm very happy with the purchase.

IMO, for the cost of the 1080 right now, it's a great card for this. I'll push my settings to the maximum tonight to see how it is and report back.

Good to hear and cheers, what settings did you wind up with?
 
Just wanted to thank OP for highlighting this deal. I am similar, want to try out VR for sims but not room scale, this is a great option. I ordered on Monday from UK, arrived Thursday. £138 total including postage and import.

I have been trying out ED and Assetto Corsa. Like many in this forum have already said, VR has to be experienced to understand the difference. Am really pleased.
 
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Good to hear and cheers, what settings did you wind up with?

I ran all of Dr Kaii's settings from min to ultra and they all worked great. A slight bit of frame drop at the ultra setting in stations, but not too bad IMO. I'm keeping it on high as I did start to experience a touch of motion sickness and stopped immediately to give myself a break.

I had a hard time seeing a difference between high and ultra, so that's the setting I decided to leave it at. I've not started tweaking individual settings quite yet as just playing in VR is rewarding enough.
 
Just wanted to thank OP for highlighting this deal. I am similar, want to try out VR for sims but not room scale, this is a great option. I ordered on Monday from UK, arrived Thursday. £138 total including postage and import.

I have been trying out ED and Assetto Corsa. Like many in this forum have already said, VR has to be experienced to understand the difference. Am really pleased.

Glad you were able to pick one up! I really was on the fence with spending $400 or more for the oculus or vive, knowing the limited resolution and especially the limited FOV. There's clearly a lot of room for VR to improve. Pimax is attempting to do so, but from what I've been reading, you really need the latest 2080ti to get decent frame rates.

This headset isn't without some pitfalls, the lack of mechanical IPD adjustment and small 'sweet spot' leave for some things to be desired, but for the price point, I personally don't think it can be beat. Plus the resolution improvement over the oculus/vive is nice, though I've not tried either to compare directly with Elite.
 
I ran all of Dr Kaii's settings from min to ultra and they all worked great. A slight bit of frame drop at the ultra setting in stations, but not too bad IMO. I'm keeping it on high as I did start to experience a touch of motion sickness and stopped immediately to give myself a break.

I had a hard time seeing a difference between high and ultra, so that's the setting I decided to leave it at. I've not started tweaking individual settings quite yet as just playing in VR is rewarding enough.

Thanks for that vidslo. I totally agree about it being rewarding, even on my current 970.
 
Got the full kit for $240. Regular price in Norway is $570[blah]

It fits my head well and the IPD seems spot on, without adjustment.

Plug it in, install Steam, install StemVR, install MR in Steam and start ED with VRMedium in DrKai's profiler.

Thanks DrKai. You have made it easy for me. :)
 
Got one without controllers, €145 including taxes and shipping to Belgium. Easy to setup, works great. Text is super readable, so changing controls for example in vr is easy, as is reading comms. I have a reasonably high IPD (66-68), and I feel that you cant have a much higher IPD without it becoming a problem.

All in all very happy. Its an amazing experience, been just dorking around, gather mats, driving on planets etc and its fantastic. Many thanks OP!
 
Got one without controllers, €145 including taxes and shipping to Belgium. Easy to setup, works great. Text is super readable, so changing controls for example in vr is easy, as is reading comms. I have a reasonably high IPD (66-68), and I feel that you cant have a much higher IPD without it becoming a problem.

All in all very happy. Its an amazing experience, been just dorking around, gather mats, driving on planets etc and its fantastic. Many thanks OP!

Who did you order it off.
 
HI vidslo, I'd typed a longer reply and then my tablet deleted it :/

In short I got one from the same place and love it running with a 970 at VR Medium in Elite, odd stutter but nothing too bad.
All menu text is very readable with the Explorer resolution, although the sweet spot is small.
You'll have a better experience with your 1080 (if it fits you, no manually adjustable IPD)

Felt like an idiot trying to get it working though, couldn't find a simple guide. Just in case
- plug in headset, Windows Mixed REality should just install. Close it down.
- Run Steam, install Steam VR and then the Windows Mixed Reality app in Steam. Reboot
- Install and run DrKaii's excellent EDProfiler found here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/262552-EDProfiler-A-New-Display-Switcher-Robust-Settings-Profiler-Switcher-Detector!. Use this to start the game with your chosen settings.

I hope you like it, my jaw was on the floor.

o7

I wish I would have seen this, or at least browsed the forum. Yeah, getting everything set up with my new HP WMR headset took a little work because I had no idea Steam VR *and* the Windows Mixed Reality App from Steam was the best and shortest way to getting things rolling. It took me an hour to figure it all out, as I am very new to VR. That said, once everything was in order, I was able to play immediately.

I would like to echo your jaw dropping sentiment. Sweet mercy, Elite is perfect in VR. ♥
 
I wish I would have seen this, or at least browsed the forum. Yeah, getting everything set up with my new HP WMR headset took a little work because I had no idea Steam VR *and* the Windows Mixed Reality App from Steam was the best and shortest way to getting things rolling. It took me an hour to figure it all out, as I am very new to VR. That said, once everything was in order, I was able to play immediately.

I would like to echo your jaw dropping sentiment. Sweet mercy, Elite is perfect in VR. ♥

Isn't it :D
After nearly a couple of months I'm still spending time just sitting taking it in.

and cheers o7
 
I have just ordered one based on the information in this thread so Thank You. Now have to hope that my 5 year old PC can cope...
 
Quick Little Lenovo Explorer Review

I recently bought a Lenovo Explorer, which only cost me $99 from B&H (without controllers), and that price for VR and for what the VR experience is, is absolutely incredible value for money. I did have an issue with my first one, and had to RMA it, but no issues with the replacement. Overall, it's amazing, though not perfect, and this is my priority list of what I wish was better:


  1. Sweet spot. It's fairly small, and you have to have the headset sitting just right on your head. Up down adjustments are what you need to get spot on, and I find myself adjusting this countless times per play session. Left right is usually ok (at least if your nose is in the middle of your face), and the tilt of the visor as well as the tightness of the strap doesn't have much impact either. Up/down is tough though, and to get it focused I've found that looking at the hexagonal pattern on the floor of my Type-6 is the best way to get the sweet spot just right.
  2. Resolution. Granted, it's better than the Rift and the original Vive, but I'd be curious to see how Pikmax 5k or 8k experience is compared to this. I think this is where the biggest improvement can come from, not just for this headset, but for any.
  3. FOV. It's not distracting in anyway, but if you look for it, you can see that you're looking through a circle, rather than having your full field of view filled.
  4. IPD. There's no hardware IPD adjustment, and I'd be curious to see if this would have improved my experience at all. There is a software adjustment in the Mixed Reality Portal settings, but I can try either extreme, and it seems to make little to no difference to the sharpness of anything. Meanwhile, my son can barely even find the sweet spot, so it seems a hardware IPD adjustment is important.

Other than that, I have no real complaints. Before buying this, my biggest concern was the Screen Door Effect (SDE), but you can't even see that unless you're looking for it. I was super excited about the release of the Odyssey+, which claims to almost eliminate the SDE, but after that being a non-issue with this, I'd be much more interested in trying a Pikmax 5k or 8k for the resolution improvement if I ever upgrade. Other than that, for Elite Dangerous, I can't see that there's anything significantly better on the market. Yes, the Odyssey & Odyssey+ have a marginally better resolution, but that's a big jump up in cost, and then the Vive Pro has the same resolution as the Odyssey's, but is an even bigger jump in cost. That's not worth it for me.

It's maybe worth mentioning that I haven't really tried to tweak anything in terms of VR settings. I tried the Med VR preset in ED, and everything was fine, then I tried the Ultra VR preset, and everything was still fine. There's maybe some fine tuning I could do which improves my experience ever further. Running on an i7-2600k @ 4.8 Ghz, 16GB RAM, and GTX 980 Ti. Is there a guide anywhere for optimal settings/tweaks?

Side note: I'll also add that I suffer from fairly bad motion sickness in a lot of aspects of life, and I bought this thinking that I was going to have to slowly build up a tolerance. Can't look down in a car for even 20 seconds, and can't go on any fairground ride that goes in circles or back and forth, boats are bad, etc etc. I bought the Rift on day 1, and I sold it on eBay two days later because of how nauseous I was from everything I had tried on it (though I never tried Elite back then beyond sitting in the cockpit). Amazingly, I have not felt this way playing Elite Dangerous since I got this headset. Occasionally, I feel a tiny bit unsettled when things are in close proximity to me; stations, mining etc, and I have so far stayed away from combat, but overall, it's been nearly a non issue. No idea if that's attributed to the headset, or just the game. I want to get into sim racing with it, but that just scares me right now. One step at a time.

So right now, yes, if you don't currently have a VR headset, but can get the Lenovo Explorer for $99, I 100% recommend it!
 
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