Huh. Every single time I have had my large pad blocked - as in, I'm cleared to land there, yet a ship is sitting there - it has been a by a Beluga. They're a menace!
Orca should be a medium ship, t7 too
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Huh. Every single time I have had my large pad blocked - as in, I'm cleared to land there, yet a ship is sitting there - it has been a by a Beluga. They're a menace!
There should be an engineer who can shorten the landing gear of the Type-7 so it can land on a medium pad, but can no longer deploy an SRV.
I appreciate what you're saying here, but I'm not sure I see why we players should have to settle for a compromise like that when it comes to this issue.
Personally, I would rather live in a game-world where the ship manufacturers don't look stupid. I mean, there are a grand total of 3 landing pad sizes in all of human inhabited space and somehow Gutyauma, Saud Kruger and Lakon don't know that?
You almost get the impression that the ship manufacturers were surprised by this fact somehow.
My vote goes along with those that say the T7, Orca, and Clipper should be able to land on medium pads.
Not necessarily. My understanding is that most ships in E
have a huge excess of volume compared with modules and cargo capacity
Not necessarily. My understanding is that most ships in E
Source?
I can't remember exactly, but I vaguely recall a picture where someone has superimposed the stated cargo load of a ship in canisters next to said ship. But we also have the cases of FD adding extra capacity to the T7 and T9 without having to change the exterior model.
I very nearly grabbed a Beluga the other day instead of my python because I wanted to maximize my bulk passenger ability.
So I went on Coriolis to see how much it would cost.
That ship makes NO sense. It BARELY carries more people than a Python and yet costs almost twice as much.
That wouldn't even be necessary. A ship landed on a pad already squats lower than a ship landed on a planet (that is ready to deploy a SRV). Just make it squat a little more than it already does.
Well, to be precise, I think that a ship landed on a planet with SRV bay extends its gear to get some extra height, not the other way around. It's more obvious on the Sidewinder cause there's that funky part at the top of the gear that looks like it was added in after-the-fact and on the Type-10 because there's a gap where the "piston rod" part of the gear's feet extends out of and hovers below the "cylinder barrel" on the upper part of the gear.
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It took me two or three tourist runs for my Beluga to pay back the money I'd spent on it (two or three hours tops). The Beluga is a good tourist ship.
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_Interiors
Those are the concept art of ships and the interiors seem to be pretty taken up. They might have changed interior load outs but I suspect that is due to them changing "tons" to "units" a while back. Each ton/unit is always stored into a container/connex that is the same size since every station uses an auto load/unloading system and that size box is the standard lorewise. So a shipment of x amount of stuff is always going to take up more space than the raw space it takes up outside of the storage containers. The Viper interior shows those boxes clearer than the older Anaconda interiors. Also the concept art of the living area shows it as a multi faceted living area for living due to the lack of space.
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It took me two or three tourist runs for my Beluga to pay back the money I'd spent on it (two or three hours tops). The Beluga is a good tourist ship.
Nah I'd rather just grab a Conda and then I can carry more people and still use it for other things if I wanted to.
If the Orca fit on a medium pad, I'd use mine quite frequently. As it is, mine just collects dust, because if I'm going to use something that lands on a large pad, I'll just use my Type-10.
I think it would make a good medium-sized ship. As it stands, I think its internals are really lacking for a large-pad ship.
I think it would make a good medium-sized ship. As it stands, I think its internals are really lacking for a large-pad ship.
Largest Small Ship Dimensions:
Length: 50m (Dolphin)
Width: 48m (Cobra Mk IV)
Height: 14m (DBX)
An extra 1m height allowance would allow both the Type-6 (48x27x15) and Keelback (50x40x15) to use Small pads.
Largest Medium Ship Dimensions:
Length: 88m (Python)
Width: 59m (Asp Scout/Chieftain)
Height: 23m (FAS/FGS)
An extra 2m height allowance would let the T7 (82x56x25) fit on a Medium.
The Orca (130x51x23) is 42m longer than a Python, so not even close.
The Clipper (107x104x25) is longer, wider, and higher than all the medium ships.
They would need to be scaled down completely to even come close but they would make more sense as mediums though.
Length: 50m (Dolphin)
Width: 48m (Cobra Mk IV)
Height: 14m (DBX)
An extra 1m height allowance would allow both the Type-6 (48x27x15) and Keelback (50x40x15) to use Small pads.
Largest Medium Ship Dimensions:
Length: 88m (Python)
Width: 59m (Asp Scout/Chieftain)
Height: 23m (FAS/FGS)
An extra 2m height allowance would let the T7 (82x56x25) fit on a Medium.
The Orca (130x51x23) is 42m longer than a Python, so not even close.
The Clipper (107x104x25) is longer, wider, and higher than all the medium ships.
They would need to be scaled down completely to even come close but they would make more sense as mediums though.
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I think this is the image being referred to
from: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...he-space-cow?p=5318830&viewfull=1#post5318830
And you've only just scratched the surface of the insanity that is the Beluga. Underpowered, overheating, size EIGHT life support... ugh.
If you want to maximize bulk passenger shipping, the ship you want is... <dramatic pause> ... the Anaconda. I know, shocking, right? Who would've thought the Anaconda would be the best choice in yet another category?
3 patches ago I would have completely agreed with you. The T7 was comparable to a Python & didn't even have the same mass locking abilities. It should have been a medium back then. But now with the buffs it's had over the course of a year. I wouldn't agree. The T7 carries alot, has had hull buffs, and has a decent jump range for your trucker type ship.
I don't fly a orca so I don't know so much about how it is spec'd & how pilots fly it. However, my biggest gripe about M & L ships is the fact that a Python mass locks a T9. I have no idea how a medium ship like a Python mass locks a cow.
Yeah those are canisters and not the actual boxes used inside the ships. On top of all the automation required to move it and hardware to store it. Convert those canisters and add in all of that and the volume of space that same payload takes up would be drastically larger.
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For sheer numbers, not jump range, the vette hauls more people than cutter or conda.
even if you were to double the size taken by those canisters (which would be some massively inefficient storage mechanisms), you could still fit all of that in one wing of the Type-9; what is the other wing doing?