Though the direction has been to increase the Optional and Core internals of the Type 7 so my guess is she will stay a large pad ship
Orca should be a medium ship, t7 too
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Though the direction has been to increase the Optional and Core internals of the Type 7 so my guess is she will stay a large pad ship
I don't recall anything specific, but they have said they are "looking at" some of the existing ships again, as well as providing new ships, in the Beyond series.
I suspect a simple misunderstanding or lack of planning in early development stages. One person created ships of different sizes, another person created the landing pads and hangars.
At some point there were finished art assets for everything, someone probably found out that the sizes don't match but it was too late to redo the models. So the simple solution was to restrict some ships to larger pads.
It's a consequence of effectively designing 4 different sizes of ships but only 3 sizes of landing pads. It was probably too late to change things by the time anyone realised there was an issue.
You know, instead redoing the existing assets to properly fit in form and function on medium pads, they could as well just create new ships that fill those niches and adapt the Orca and T-7 more as large pad ships. Or keep them as alternatives to the new ships in power level with the downside of them using large pads as a balancing point.
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T7 used to be a medium ship, then they tweaked the model back in 2 point something that made the ship slightly taller and one of the devs admitted in a livestream that the *only* reason it was now a large ship was because it now clipped in the medium docking bays.
Imho they should have either left it as it was or made it shorter and fatter.
I still love it though, wouldn't be seen dead trading in anything else.
Edit: RE the title.... i hate touch keyboards.
T7 used to be a medium ship, then they tweaked the model back in 2 point something that made the ship slightly taller and one of the devs admitted in a livestream that the *only* reason it was now a large ship was because it now clipped in the medium docking bays.
Imho they should have either left it as it was or made it shorter and fatter.
I still love it though, wouldn't be seen dead trading in anything else.
Edit: RE the title.... i hate touch keyboards.
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I'm fine with the Orca being the large ship it is.
Just give us a nice, Medium-sized Saud Kruger ship for me to collect.
Something with a bit more firepower and fewer locked slots would be flawless.
Just give us a nice, Medium-sized Saud Kruger ship for me to collect.
Something with a bit more firepower and fewer locked slots would be flawless.
Hell. Yes.
I want the space equivalent of a bullet proof limo from Saud Kruger. (Yes I know there are other ships that can be made to do that but I want a dedicated passenger ship)
Yes. The T7 is a about 1m too tall to fit in the medium docking bay without clipping the roof, if they had designed the model just a smidgen shorter then it would easily fit the medium pad.
Just look at how ridiculous the T7 is sitting on a large pad. It makes me cry.
The T7 should be the cargo competitor to the multipurpose Python, because currently there isn't one. The T7's height of less than one meter too much is the only thing stopping it.
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To repeat my comment from another thread, the Python really needs some decent competition. As things stand, as a medium pad passenger/trader and general purpose ship, it is peerless.
A decent T8 could do the trick, and I also think it's a real shame that the T7 and Clipper weren't made for medium pads, it seems like a missed opportunity.
Remember the original Renault Espace. It was winner in a market of one until all the other car manufacturers caught up. So, it's about time the other ship manufacturers caught up. Then we can all start moaning that the new ships are better/worse...... #MakeThePythonGreatAgain
A decent T8 could do the trick, and I also think it's a real shame that the T7 and Clipper weren't made for medium pads, it seems like a missed opportunity.
Remember the original Renault Espace. It was winner in a market of one until all the other car manufacturers caught up. So, it's about time the other ship manufacturers caught up. Then we can all start moaning that the new ships are better/worse...... #MakeThePythonGreatAgain
The difference, of course, being that Azimut aren't the only boat builder in the world.
Company A makes a 35ft boat with certain features so company B makes a 40ft boat with similar features for all those who want something a bit bigger.
And then company A makes their own 40ft boat to compete with company B for sales.
And then company C shows up, sees a hole in the market and makes a 37ft boat which fills the "gap" between 35ft boats and 40ft boats.
Rinse and repeat.
Again, there's only company A in ED: Saud Kruger.
As far as I'm concerned, this is pretty much true - I spend most of my time in one of their ships or another.
But the ONLY real difference here lies in the use of the often-not-used Luxury Cabin. Only Saud Kruger ships can equip these.
Any ship can equip an Econo-cabin, Business-Class Cabin or First-Class cabin, thus SK are not the only options for transport ships.
They're not the only boat builder. Just the only Luxury-capable boat builder.
But they are not, suck on it.
Well, yeah.
My point was that real-world yacht builders aren't competing with themselves. They're competing with other companies who make similar products.
In ED it seems baffling that SK would bring out 2 ships which both fill the same market sector when there's no competition for either ship - aside from another SK product.
Would have made far more sense for the Orca to have been a medium-pad ship.
True story: After buying an Orca, one of the first things I did (after getting attacked) was try to stop at a platform for repairs.
It was only then that I realised the Orca was a large-pad ship.
it's something that's baffled me ever since.
Well, yeah.
My point was that real-world yacht builders aren't competing with themselves. They're competing with other companies who make similar products.
In ED it seems baffling that SK would bring out 2 ships which both fill the same market sector when there's no competition for either ship - aside from another SK product.
Would have made far more sense for the Orca to have been a medium-pad ship.
True story: After buying an Orca, one of the first things I did (after getting attacked) was try to stop at a platform for repairs.
It was only then that I realised the Orca was a large-pad ship.
it's something that's baffled me ever since.
I'm not really sure it qualifies as competition... a large ship with fewer hardpoints and smaller internals or a large ship with more hardpoints and more internals...
But I do get it... there are a few ships that the pad size and ship dimensions just don't quite seem to add up. The just-too-tall for a medium pad Type-7.. I'm sure a few pixels from the model could be sacrificed to make it fix. Likewise, the Orca could go for a little of the same... but then...
There is the matter of Weapon Class vs. Ship Size. Smaller weapons less effective against larger ships... a benefit I'm not so sure I'd really want to trade off for either of these.
The funny thing is that - using your Ford Analogy - the Orca is either a Mustang or Explorer/Expedition/Excursion, depending on how you want to look at it while the Beluga is the equivalent of the Edsel or the Pinto. The Orca is fast and does it's job very well. The Beluga is an underpowered, overheating, piece of *&^(*%. It's the most agile of the BIG large ships yet hogs the mailslot everytime. Argh, I hate that ship! I infrequently go to Anarchy systems with Tourist beacons just to "thin the herd" of those monstrosities.