Yes you can buy guns in the UK if you have a license but you also need a company/trader to import those guns to the UK for you to be able to buy them. So my point was that in Elite the Import of guns to the Station is illegal therefore there would be no stock at the vendor for you to buy. As you can't have one without the other.
Overlooked, lazy or don't care?
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If you buy them all at once, sure. Just spread it out over a week or so
Its just....lazy. Even Warframe with its millions of add ons and features is consistent across them.
You're not paying for the suit, you're paying for the fitting. Tailoring in the future is very expensive.
Joking aside, just change Personal and Battle weapons to Personal and Battle Munitions. Ammo is so cheap there's multiple boxes of infinite supply on every base. Immersion restored. Now FD can focus on something important, like fixing actual critical bugs.
It's the "Designer Label"... People always pay silly money for those...
Now that you mention it, Takada firearms look like they should have an Apple logo on them...
To a certain extent. If Sentients resist to powers, it's simply because Limbo was completely cheesing up Scarlet Spear event
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That'd work and be REAL easy yeah.
You can be freelance pilots without being member of the pilots federation ?
I can't think of any other lore that would need changing right? The sudden legality of Firearms themselves could be handwaved away with the still-regulated Ammunition trade in those places. After all, a gun without ammo is just a very cumbersome crackpipe.
Yes, most of the NPC's are this, seemingly.
Back in Elite 1, Firearms were illegal to trade at all ports. It was nevertheless legal to fit military-grade lasers, missiles, and energy bombs to your ship, fly that ship in any system, and use the weapons subject to not attacking a proscribed target.
And likewise in Elite Dangerous, most Federal and Alliance systems (and many independents) restrict the trade in lethal weapons but are quite happy for you to fly around with 16t plasma accelerators, cannons, lasers, and everything else. They'll even sell them to you!
The Elite series has never been a place for someone who wants consistent weapon-ownership/use laws to exist. We've been joking about smuggling weapons into stations by bolting the crates onto the outside of the ship since before Elite Dangerous was announced.
I will note that trade in weapons and other prohibited goods is a Fine rather than a Bounty offence - it's not a serious crime like Loitering where you can be shot on sight for it - so presumably it's some paperwork violation rather than anything people actually want to prevent outright. Odyssey is actually slightly better for this than Horizons in that carrying certain illegal items on foot does generate a death-level offence when scanned, rather than a "you know those e-breaches are illegal, right? 1000 credit fine for you" reaction.
And likewise in Elite Dangerous, most Federal and Alliance systems (and many independents) restrict the trade in lethal weapons but are quite happy for you to fly around with 16t plasma accelerators, cannons, lasers, and everything else. They'll even sell them to you!
The Elite series has never been a place for someone who wants consistent weapon-ownership/use laws to exist. We've been joking about smuggling weapons into stations by bolting the crates onto the outside of the ship since before Elite Dangerous was announced.
I will note that trade in weapons and other prohibited goods is a Fine rather than a Bounty offence - it's not a serious crime like Loitering where you can be shot on sight for it - so presumably it's some paperwork violation rather than anything people actually want to prevent outright. Odyssey is actually slightly better for this than Horizons in that carrying certain illegal items on foot does generate a death-level offence when scanned, rather than a "you know those e-breaches are illegal, right? 1000 credit fine for you" reaction.
Lazy solution... but that work
They all work for factions, corporations, govs,... no ?
If you're freelance, you're independant, no ?The Pilots Federation is a secretive organization that oversees and represents the galaxy's independent pilots, almost all of whom are licensed members and granted the title “commander”.
Pilots Federation
The Pilots Federation is a secretive organization that oversees and represents the galaxy's independent pilots, almost all of whom are licensed members and granted the title "commander". Since its founding in 2805, the Pilots Federation has amassed enormous wealth and influence, but always...elite-dangerous.fandom.com
(Off topic, but "secret" is pretty amusing since they own GalNet and manage permit restriction. That would deserve a little retcon
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Pioneer is the licensed seller for those otherwise prohibited weapons with their own licensed supplier. Us transporting weapons is just dirty smugglers.
Not adding non-lethal weapons was a choice I think. Maybe the idea was to have deadly gunfights and not inspire people to have shootouts with stun-guns.
No clue. I don't do the gunfights in Elite, so I wouldn't mind any kind of weapons. I carry a plasma rifle though, because it's cool.
Ok, so i get your point about the Pioneer contract. But then, given the price difference, i would have tried a gun deal for my own needs. Like 150 tonnes of weapons fall from the ship
The Pioneer store having it's own license does solve the issue and ironically it's something I overlooked. As for the non lethal I just feel that it could have added other gameplay options that we currently don't have. When there technically already in the game it's just we don't have the use of them in Odyssey and I would have liked the option to take a non lethal approach to a stealth or heist mission.
I don't think the developers claimed there would be significant integration between the two.
It'd be nice if there was a nonviolent option of course. But tying the ship hauling commodities to Pioneer supplies seems a bit superfluous for game play reasons. There could be some CZ variant that asks players (and NPCs) to haul these to the battle in order to boost respawn numbers or something. But I think that'll do it.
The big failing of integration in Odyssey is in the other direction - there is no point to any of the new Odyssey mats other than to make things better in Odyssey, so it is a dead end and makes Odyssey less compelling. I'd rather we could do things like use Graphene etc to improve our ships before I will care that we can't crack open a case of Reactive Armour and put it on and save a few CR on going to a Pioneer store.
As was discussed many weeks ago - trying to balance something like Battle Weapons, that you can buy for a Ton for a few k CR, against any type of progression system would be pointless and only save a few 'My immersions!' posts. Of which yours is one
So that brings me back to the original question in the title of this thread, so it was too much work to integrate the game assets into Odyssey in a way that they could be usable by the player base, so lazy?. Although lazy I admit is a harsh term when in reality it just means they had bigger fish to fry like the bugs.The big failing of integration in Odyssey is in the other direction - there is no point to any of the new Odyssey mats other than to make things better in Odyssey, so it is a dead end and makes Odyssey less compelling. I'd rather we could do things like use Graphene etc to improve our ships before I will care that we can't crack open a case of Reactive Armour and put it on and save a few CR on going to a Pioneer store.
As was discussed many weeks ago - trying to balance something like Battle Weapons, that you can buy for a Ton for a few k CR, against any type of progression system would be pointless and only save a few 'My immersions!' posts. Of which yours is one
Easy : tax. Look at the price of, for exemple, cigarets in some countries.