a massive amount of it HAS been visited, but also a massive amount of it hasn't.
Pah phooey - myth busted
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More quantitatively, as I've checked this recently, all stars within about 12 ly of Sag A* are discovered. The stars are so dense that there's a couple thousand stars just in that little sphere. Beyond that it very quickly drops off to mostly undiscovered.Here you go. Me looking at SagA, with only unvisited systems showing. This ONLY shows about 20-30Ly total distance (15Ly per direction).
Data is not inaccurate/broken, it literally is mostly undiscovered.
Take a look at the galaxy heatmap (https://edastro.com/galmap/) - Colonia is close enough that lots of traffic takes a straight line route. There's no single obvious waypoint coming from the bubble, plus most people are going to deviate off the center line so they can use neutron boosts. So the bubble-Sag A* traffic is much more diffused than the Colonia-Sag A* leg, even if it's a roughly comparable total amount of traffic.
You'll also find that some people will go off on a jaunt in a random direction from the bubble, and then decide to go SagA, so they will come from pretty much any direction.
Whereas people are likely to go straight to SagA from Colonia, or vice versa.
Whereas people are likely to go straight to SagA from Colonia, or vice versa.
Yeah its a bit like living in London or I suppose any other large city, the night sky is always Orange. I am just on the edge right now as i head upward from Sag A, you can just about see the orange on the left and the darker blacks on the right. I plan to get as high as my jump range will allow.
Bit late to the game with external cameras, but they make screen shots better. I was stocking up on Mats when I found this. It seems a bit out of place to me seeing as I am above the core and there is little to no space faring life out here - so why a satellite? I have found crashed ships before and they make sense, just another explorer like ourselves, but satellites would infer colonization of which there is none out here.
I'm currently doing the same. Left the bubble for the first time on Saturday, made it about 9kLYs from Colonia but I took a slight detour to a nebula some 2.5kLYs away first. Should hopefully get to Colonia tonight and then after I've seen what's what around there I'm planning my first Sag A* trip, but I'm going to take a more scenic route, rather than just beeline it.
Probably gona head high above or below the elliptical, get some shots from there and then dive straight down through the middle.
I’ve never been to colonia but this is my second trip to sagA. I need to upgrade my ship it’s limited to 48ly jump range and I want a 70k one soooo may go back to the bubble via Colonia.
On another note it’s quite exciting leaving the bubble. You realise how alone you are and how vast the galaxy is . Even though it’s a game it feels quite real
good luck
A system marked as discovered in EDSM could look undiscovered in game, if its last visit was before 3.3 released, as someone just passing through wouldn't have passively discovered the primary star enough to get first discovery tags.
(Obviously the reverse - discovered in-game but not in the EDSM data set - will be more common)
If you've unlocked the basic bubble engineers already, you can probably upgrade your ship in Colonia.
It is also possible - although uncommon outside of extremely difficult to reach locations - that a system was added to EDSM manually via trilateralization, even though it has never been visited.
Unfortunately in my haste to get back out to the void I only spent time with Felicity.
I could prolly do with a stint back in the bubble just to remind my self why I left
Yeah, but they're not included in my file, as they are not in classed as "SystemsWithCoordinates"
Well today I got about as far up as I can go. This is a zig zag path up from the core.
Quemeou YE-A EO A
@ grid level 2849
Discovered by Erimus
The problem was all the stars where Tauri so I could not refuel.
As I climbed higher more and more of the planets had been discovered, in fact the last few hops everything had been discovered. At the core its so dense that you can pretty much go tag yourself happy, whereas up high above the core humans have left their mark, blazing a trail of discovery through star system after star system.
So there you have it not quite the bubble but certainly not all green field sites either.
I took a bit of damage on a high G planet so think Ill head back to Explorers Anchorage, cash in the data, get some repairs and then head out into the black. I figure I am halfway to beagle point so may set out to end up there.
Got to use the jump boosts as well, that was interesting and an new item checked off the list.
Quemeou YE-A EO A
@ grid level 2849
Discovered by Erimus
The problem was all the stars where Tauri so I could not refuel.
As I climbed higher more and more of the planets had been discovered, in fact the last few hops everything had been discovered. At the core its so dense that you can pretty much go tag yourself happy, whereas up high above the core humans have left their mark, blazing a trail of discovery through star system after star system.
So there you have it not quite the bubble but certainly not all green field sites either.
I took a bit of damage on a high G planet so think Ill head back to Explorers Anchorage, cash in the data, get some repairs and then head out into the black. I figure I am halfway to beagle point so may set out to end up there.
Got to use the jump boosts as well, that was interesting and an new item checked off the list.
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If you think the ceiling above Sgr A* was well trod wait until you get to the last couple of kylies before Beagle Point
Humans have always sought to test how far they can go. This game is no different. While some parts of the perimeter are more fully explored than others, the galactic fringes are tagged at a far higher rate than most anywhere in the interior outside of the bubble. But there are definitely popular directions. Within 1k ly or so of Beagle Point, I'd say 90+% of systems are already tagged. But get past 11 or 1 o'clock on the fringe, and the "explored stars" view turns into a few blue trails snaking through a sea of red again.
Could I please ask, what's the 'suppression zone'? Ta.
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One (or several) pictures say more than a 1000 words … under certain assumptions regarding what information is and if the pictures have a certain minimum size … Yes, there is a scientific article about it … Let me cite the important part:
Anyway, regarding the suppression zone look at the "Body Distribution" maps at edastro.com.
For example this one. The cross is the suppression zone.
As far as I know was the original idea to suppress certain types of algorithm generated (a.k.a. NOT hand-placed) stars in the buble. Otherwise there would have been too many white dwarfs there and such. Unfortunately the code seems to have an < OR > instead of an < AND > in this logic and thus instead of suppressing just in the bubble, the cross appeared. Actually that must be two < OR > instead of two < AND > since the galaxy is three dimensional.
Edit;
So the code should be sth. like:
You see how this will suppress just in the bubble.
Instead it is.
You see how this generates the cross.
Anyway, regarding the suppression zone look at the "Body Distribution" maps at edastro.com.
For example this one. The cross is the suppression zone.
As far as I know was the original idea to suppress certain types of algorithm generated (a.k.a. NOT hand-placed) stars in the buble. Otherwise there would have been too many white dwarfs there and such. Unfortunately the code seems to have an < OR > instead of an < AND > in this logic and thus instead of suppressing just in the bubble, the cross appeared. Actually that must be two < OR > instead of two < AND > since the galaxy is three dimensional.
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So the code should be sth. like:
Code:
IF forbidden_star_type has bubble-X-coordinates AND bubble-Y-coordinates AND bubble-Z-coordinates:
DO_NOT_GENERATE_THE STAR()Instead it is.
Code:
IF forbidden_star_type has bubble-X-coordinates OR bubble-Y-coordinates OR bubble-Z-coordinates:
DO_NOT_GENERATE_THE STAR()
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