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PC Pirates in Yembo - beware traders!
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Completely agree; the Solo franchise of the game was great and what the original was all about.
Hey djamila people don't do sustainable piracy you take what you can, if the guy doesn't come back good for him even better if he was smart enough to drop 30t and go instead of getting destroyed. It isn't about "farming" a trader going past to get the beans he's grown since last time.
Also i can say with absolute certainty so far that requesting less cargo has absolutely zero increased chance of success, people who are willing to drop drop, be that 10 20 or 30t whatever, people who aren't generally die protecting 10t and trust me i've tried I always ask for a reasonable % of cargo but i've had a T9 refuse to drop 5t and another happily dropped 50t and wished me a good day (love you btw if your reading). these are just examples but I've pirated a fairly large number of people by now.
I would say 20% drop and leave without damage, 20% drop something after they take some damage and the remaining 60% won't drop a single thing except what you can force out, even if they are in a python or a conda and you cause 5mil of damage.
Also i can say with absolute certainty so far that requesting less cargo has absolutely zero increased chance of success, people who are willing to drop drop, be that 10 20 or 30t whatever, people who aren't generally die protecting 10t and trust me i've tried I always ask for a reasonable % of cargo but i've had a T9 refuse to drop 5t and another happily dropped 50t and wished me a good day (love you btw if your reading). these are just examples but I've pirated a fairly large number of people by now.
I would say 20% drop and leave without damage, 20% drop something after they take some damage and the remaining 60% won't drop a single thing except what you can force out, even if they are in a python or a conda and you cause 5mil of damage.
I think they should also beef up security in the system if such a community event is organizated. Maybe three times for security forces that are in Elite class while rewarding bounty hunters 10x the credits for Yembo wanted. This should encourage more fun for the bounty hunters, not just for the traders and pirates.
you already get interdicted every minute lol, or I do if you make it too high it'd just be unplayable, the npcs being elite anacondas would have no impact as the AI isn't setup to chase currently (in any ship).
They could have though, no joke the most dangerous encounter i've ever had was with a psycho npc anaconda that interdicted me, completely threw me off though I did choose to turn round thinking it was the usual viper/eagle lol.
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Hi Tigga,
I was one of the traders that got interdicted by you.
I just bought a ASP and had it stripped down to cover for insurance.
Was a nice thrilling experience.
Fortunately for me someone in a Anaconda was chasing you down and came to the rescue ...
Great multiplayer interaction
Someone was bounty hunting players in a conda?.... Lol just wow wrong on so many levels.
I was in Yembo trying to collect anti-piracy protection fees from traders, first T6 i interdicted i thought 5t of metal cargo will suffice..... next minute two player ships, clipper and cobra have jumped in hardpoints deployed wha tha f..... then my T6 jumps out uhhh
Oh please. Selectively quoting bits of my posts to make it appear I was saying something else is at best impolite. At no stage have I ever bemoaned solo play. What I have consistently bemoaned is the fact that FD have not delivered an AI that makes solo play other than a very safe doddle.
Probably a trader who can make 4 mill/ an hour so he can waste money in an anaconda for fun.
He did. His post has been edited by a mod (as has mine since I quoted it - note they have been edited to say different things - you just can't get the staff these days).
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Hello Everyone! Im Falcons "Nice Pirate" and im making quite the killing stopping traders in Yembo.
I've done a bit of everything in Elite Dangerous and the most fun I've had yet has been whilst pirating. I primarily play multiplayer games for the interaction of players and none compare to traders under pressure from a pirate or being chased by a bounty hunters.
There seems to be a lot of unjustified hate towards pirates. I would rather this hate not be blanketed upon all of us due to the few bad examples that incite it.
Fly Safe CMDRs!
your friendly neighbourhood pirate.
Hello Everyone! Im Falcons "Nice Pirate" and im making quite the killing stopping traders in Yembo.
I've done a bit of everything in Elite Dangerous and the most fun I've had yet has been whilst pirating. I primarily play multiplayer games for the interaction of players and none compare to traders under pressure from a pirate or being chased by a bounty hunters.
There seems to be a lot of unjustified hate towards pirates. I would rather this hate not be blanketed upon all of us due to the few bad examples that incite it.
Fly Safe CMDRs!
your friendly neighbourhood pirate.
its not fun its the slowest ship with any combat ability, its monumentally expensive to repair and it steers like a pregnant buffalo in a bathtub like i'd be gobsmacked if a player conda bounty hunting had any player kills, if he did those players chose to suicide lol.
In this night I am a little bit piriating in Yembo,
i take max 10% of the Cargo and if the trader have no Cargo inside he can go his way.
I meet many nice traders who give me a few tons of metal.
After it we chat a few minutes and then we go ouer ways
But bad traders will be shoot a little bit... but i don`t kill him directly. He get a second chance to drop cargo.
Fly save Comanders!
i take max 10% of the Cargo and if the trader have no Cargo inside he can go his way.
I meet many nice traders who give me a few tons of metal.
After it we chat a few minutes and then we go ouer ways
But bad traders will be shoot a little bit... but i don`t kill him directly. He get a second chance to drop cargo.
Fly save Comanders!
agreed,
Ai is to easy and this whole switching between solo/open doesn't sit well with me. It basicly means that players who play open always have a disadvantage, and yet they are the ones that bring some 'life' into the universe.
It doesn't feel right if i would grind my way up in easy mode (solo)... untill i have the best weapon loadout and can start fighting real players. Kinda feels like mixing 2 different difficulty levels.
What happens in solo should stay in solo and what happens in open should stay in open. Players in solo can have an effect on the universe while at the same time escaping from all dangers.
I have no problem people preferring solo but i question this mix developed by FD.
It's a very, very big universe. I've made millions trading in Open in a remote little corner of it with only 2 human interactions. I think the only reason some of us have switched to Solo around Yembo is because of the highly-skewed risk/reward generated by huge numbers of criminals in the system. We still want to contribute to the cause - and honestly, Type 6s and Type 9s provide the backbone for making this goal happen.
There were CMDR pirate hunters last time I was there. I was on the receiving end of one recently.
Seems like it's very random based on who's online. Aggregating across multiple threads, it seems that pirate count far exceeds bounty hunter count most times.
Well, not a single interdiction in todays run...
What people often forget is that pirats look for week ships...
I noticed i saw a lot less type 6's today in open... and a lot more people where running ASP's and cobra's.
This is the main problem with having open/solo mixed together: you can never get a right balance because if it gets a bit to hard or people can not get their profits like they are used to they just run away into solo.
Traders will keep complaining about pirates in open... go to solo... and pirates start complaining the profits are not big enough. After a while when things settled down in open the same cycle begins again...
How can ships/items be balanced properly if weak ships (no shields or defences because this equals more earnings) are able to find a safe heaven in solo...
Finding a balance between professions is impossible and if they don't change this aspect of the game i see no solution to end these silly discussions.
This would be less of a problem if the AI where any decent but this is just not the case.... the difficulty lvl goes from 10 to 1 if you switch to solo...and the few challenges in this game evaporate.
Another major flaw is that trading profits where to high from the beginning but once people are used to something it is very hard to take it away. It doesn't make sense at all that trading is the best way to earn money especially if you consider there is no risk involved (in solo). I believe the best thing to do is up the earnings for all other professions because as it is now most just fall into this 'grind' trap to earn more money for the next 'blingbling' ship.
If i murder someone who has a bounty on its head i expect a good pay and it should be more then a trading run from point A to point B because i put my ship in serious risk. A pirate should be able to make a decent living but the high risk should also be there for getting cought. How can we ever do a proper bounty hunt if people can escape to solo and pay of their bounties easily as if nothing happened? Everything needs to be balanced perfectly and if one chain breaks the whole circle collapses.
The problem at the moment is this: 1000 traders earn 100$/hour -> 50 pirates earn 50$/hour each -> 25 bounty hunters earn 25$/hour
In reality it should be like this: 1000 traders earn 100$/hour -> 50 pirates earn 100$/hour each -> 25 bounty hunters earn 100$/hour
What people often forget is that pirats look for week ships...
I noticed i saw a lot less type 6's today in open... and a lot more people where running ASP's and cobra's.
This is the main problem with having open/solo mixed together: you can never get a right balance because if it gets a bit to hard or people can not get their profits like they are used to they just run away into solo.
Traders will keep complaining about pirates in open... go to solo... and pirates start complaining the profits are not big enough. After a while when things settled down in open the same cycle begins again...
How can ships/items be balanced properly if weak ships (no shields or defences because this equals more earnings) are able to find a safe heaven in solo...
Finding a balance between professions is impossible and if they don't change this aspect of the game i see no solution to end these silly discussions.
This would be less of a problem if the AI where any decent but this is just not the case.... the difficulty lvl goes from 10 to 1 if you switch to solo...and the few challenges in this game evaporate.
Another major flaw is that trading profits where to high from the beginning but once people are used to something it is very hard to take it away. It doesn't make sense at all that trading is the best way to earn money especially if you consider there is no risk involved (in solo). I believe the best thing to do is up the earnings for all other professions because as it is now most just fall into this 'grind' trap to earn more money for the next 'blingbling' ship.
If i murder someone who has a bounty on its head i expect a good pay and it should be more then a trading run from point A to point B because i put my ship in serious risk. A pirate should be able to make a decent living but the high risk should also be there for getting cought. How can we ever do a proper bounty hunt if people can escape to solo and pay of their bounties easily as if nothing happened? Everything needs to be balanced perfectly and if one chain breaks the whole circle collapses.
The problem at the moment is this: 1000 traders earn 100$/hour -> 50 pirates earn 50$/hour each -> 25 bounty hunters earn 25$/hour
In reality it should be like this: 1000 traders earn 100$/hour -> 50 pirates earn 100$/hour each -> 25 bounty hunters earn 100$/hour
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