Permian animal ideas for JWE2

With a mixture of inspirations from JP/JW toylines, other JP/JW video games, and even the Lystrosaurus that was teased to be in Jurassic World: Dominion by associates on Twitter, other Permian animals came in mind for consideration, assuming none of them will ever be in Dominion or anything else tied into the franchise itself this year. Maybe for a Permian based pack (but without any marine animals), or something else entirely. Note that some of these are amphibians rather than reptiles, so I'm not sure how plausible they can be, but the ones I added here were personal favorites.

1. Edaphosaurus
2. Scutosaurus
3. Estemmenosuchus
4. Moschops
5. Cotylorhynchus
6. Diadectes
7. Sphenacodon
8. Ophiacodon
9. Secodontosaurus
10. Elginia
11. Diictodon
12. Cacops (amphibian)
13. Eryops (amphibian)
14. Platyhystrix (amphibian)
15. Tiarajudens
16. Lycaenops
17. Titanophoneus
18. Gorgonops
19. Inostrancevia
20. Coelurosauravus (Aviary)
21. Weigeltisaurus (Aviary)

The aviary reptiles options I added were based on a separate idea I posted on the Ideas/Suggestions forum about live insects as a new but optional food source for small pterosaurs, current and maybe more.
 
Meganeuropsis permiana (aviary)
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Would be interesting. Though I personally think only reptiles and synapsids would be a more ideal suit, (maybe) including my exceptional amphibian ideas.


On a side note, if a hypothetical 4+ pack were to be made, perhaps there won't be anything for lagoons? Unless they decide on fish or arthropods, both of which I don't think so.
 
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On a side note, if a hypothetical 4+ pack were to be made, perhaps there won't be anything for lagoons? Unless they decide on fish or arthropods, both of which I don't think so.
Considering how the largest options for Permian fliers are tinier than a Compsognathus--and that few of them actually flew--it seems unlikely there'd be aviary animals either...
 
For a while, there wasn't anything Permian related I could think of for the lagoons. Like, I don't think they'll be adding fish partly for realism sakes to a degree for how you treat your lagoon reptiles. But now, I have a single lagoon idea that might be realistically possible.

Assuming nothing Permian related for a 4+ dino pack is planned out at the moment, what came to mind was a small aquatic reptile called Mesosaurus. Assuming lagoons are saltwater due to them being used to house sea reptiles, Mesosaurus was thought to inhabit salty, if not saltier, water habitats, but not really a coastal environment. Or at least, some populations did.
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I like some of your suggestions, particularly Inostrancevia, Edaphosaurus, Scutosaurus, Moschops, and Gorgonops. Some species that might make nice additions to the game if they get added include:
Euchambersia, a therapsid that lived during the Late Permian period in what is now South Africa and China. It is widely believed to have possessed a venomous bite, which right now the only two venomous species we have in this game are Trodon and Scorpios Rex. It would be nice to have some more species.
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Moschorhinus, a carnivorous synapsid that lived in the Late Permian period to Early Triassic period in South Africa. It should be noted that Moschorhinus were the only large therocephalians.
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Tapinocephalus, large herbivorous dinocephalians that lived during the Middle Permian Period in the South African Karoo. They are considered to be one of the largest animals alive during the time they lived; and it is believed they engaged in head butting either for mates and or to control territory, kind of like the Pachycephalosaurs.
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Deuterosaurus, a dinocephalian therapsid, one of the non-mammalian synapsids dominating the land during the late Permian period, that lived in Russia. It grew to be around the size of a Grizzly Bear, and, like them, they are thought to have been possibly omnivorous. It is thought they head butt each other to fight over territory and or mates.
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Estemmenosuchus, a large, early omnivorous therapsid that lived during the middle part of the Middle Permian around 267 million years ago in Russia. They have distinctive horn-like structures that are thought to have been used for display. Many remains from different individuals were found together.
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Anteosaurus, a large carnivorous dinocephalian synapsid in the Middle Permian period, about 265 to 260 million years ago in what is now South Africa. Anteosaurus was the largest known carnivorous non-mammalian synapsid and the largest terrestrial predator of the Permian period. It is thought that thy head butt each other. Its name means before lizard in Latin.
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I think a Permian Species Pack could be a nice idea bring more non dinosaur species into the game. Personally, the species I would pick for this pack are:
1: Either Inostrancevia, An extinct genus of large carnivorous therapsids who lived during the Late Permian in what is now European Russia and South Africa. The first known fossils of this gorgonopsian were discovered in the Northern Dvina, where two almost complete skeletons were exhumed. Inostrancevia is the biggest known gorgonopsian, the largest fossil specimens indicating an estimated size between 3 and 3.5 meters (9.8-11 feet) long.
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2: Scutosaurus, An extinct genus of pareiasaur parareptiles. Its genus name, which means shield lizard, refers to large plates of armor scattered across its body. Fossils have been found in the Sokolki Assemblage Zone of the Malokinelskaya Formation in European Russia, close to the Ural Mountains, dating to the late Permian (Lopingian) between 264 and 252 million years ago. It grew to be about 2.5–3 meters (8 – 9 feet) in length and weighing up to 1,160 kilograms (2,560 lb.).
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3: Either Edaphosaurus, A genus of extinct edaphosaurid synapsids that lived in what is now North America and Europe around 303.4 to 272.5 million years ago,[1] during the Late Carboniferous to Early Permian. Edaphosaurus is important as one of the earliest-known, large, plant-eating (herbivorous), amniote tetrapods (four-legged land-living vertebrates). It grew to be around 0.5 to 3.5 meters (1.6 to 11.5 ft.) in length and weighed over 300 kilograms (660 lb.). Its genus name means pavement lizard, a reference to the "dental pavement" on both the upper and lower jaws, which is derived from the Greek edaphos έδαφος ("ground"; also "pavement") and σαῦρος (sauros) ("lizard").
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Gordodon, An extinct genus of non-mammalian synapsid that lived during the Early Permian of what is now Otero County, New Mexico. It grew to be around 1 meters (3 ft.) in length excluding the tail and 34 kilograms (75 lb.) in weight. The unique jaws and teeth of Gordodon amongst early synapsids suggest that it was one of the first herbivorous tetrapods to have specialized in selectively feeding on high nutrient, low-fiber plant fructifications (seeds and fruit-like structures). The generic name is from the Spanish word "gordo", meaning "fat", and the Ancient Greek suffix "-odon" to mean "fat tooth", referring to its characteristically large front teeth. The name is also a play on "Alamogordo", the name of the city close to where the fossil was discovered. The specific name kraineri was chosen in honour of Karl Krainer, a geologist of the University of Innsbruck in recognition of his extensive work on paleontology and geology in New Mexico. If it gets added, the developers should require it to have a lot fruit vegetation in its enclosure.
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4: One of the species bellow as the last option:
Tapinocephalus, A large, herbivorous dinocephalian that lived during the Middle Permian Period in the South African Karoo. They could grow over 3 meters (10 feet) in length and massed around 1.5 to 2 tons (3,300 to 4,400 lb.). They are considered to be one of the largest animals alive during the time they lived; and it is believed they engaged in head butting either for mates and or to control territory, kind of like the Pachycephalosaurs. Its name means humble head.
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Biarmosuchus, An extinct genus of biarmosuchian therapsids that lived around 267 mya during the Middle Permian period. It grew to be around the size of a large dog, around 1.5–2 meters (4.9-6.5 feet) in length. It was named for Bjarmaland, the name for the White Sea region in Old Norse literature.
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Estemmenosuchus, A large, early omnivorous therapsid that lived during the middle part of the Middle Permian around 267 million years ago in Russia. They could grow to around 3 meters (10 feet) long. They have distinctive horn-like structures that are thought to have been used for display. Many remains from different individuals were found together. Its name means crowned crocodile in Greek.
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Tiarajudens, An extinct genus of saber-toothed herbivorous anomodonts which lived during the Middle Permian period (Capitanian stage) in what is now Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It grew to be around the size of a wild boar. The most prominent features of Tiarajudens are its two large saber-like canine teeth. These teeth are unlike the tusks of dicynodonts. It is one of the earliest therapsids to have a heterodont dentition. Its name means Tiaraju tooth, which is a reference to Sepé Tiaraju, an indigenous Guaraní leader in the Jesuit reduction mission of São Luiz Gonzaga who led the fight against the Portuguese and Spanish colonial powers in the Guarani War.
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Inostancevia received attention in Dino Crisis 2; what are the chances that the way Jurassic World: Evolution 2 depicts this species will be more accurate if it is added?
 
Inostrancevia received attention in Dino Crisis 2; what are the chances that the way Jurassic World: Evolution 2 depicts this species will be more accurate if it is added?
Given how well the developers made Tarbosaurus, I think they would probably make it better than the other game did. It would be nice if got added here because I think a lot of people know of Gorgonopsia clade, but they don't know the names of many of the animals in it. Even in the Life on Our Planet series, the narrator refers to Inostrancevia as the Gorgonopsid without mentioning the genus name. I'll include the link for the scene I found here:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSV4Rkct5Y
Just out of curiosity what species would you pick if you were going to make a pack of Permian species?
 
Given how well the developers made Tarbosaurus, I think they would probably make it better than the other game did. It would be nice if got added here because I think a lot of people know of Gorgonopsia clade, but they don't know the names of many of the animals in it. Even in the Life on Our Planet series, the narrator refers to Inostrancevia as the Gorgonopsid without mentioning the genus name. I'll include the link for the scene I found here:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSV4Rkct5Y
Just out of curiosity what species would you pick if you were going to make a pack of Permian species?

@Vanguard 1998 Thank you for the video clip about Inostrancevia. If this species is added and require prey, I hope it would be fast enough to take down a goat.

Unfortunately, I do not know much about the Permian period other than the three species. So far, Lystrosaurus and Dimetrodon are added since their debuts in the film Jurassic World: Dominion.
 
I think a Permian Species Pack could be a nice idea bring more non dinosaur species into the game. Personally, the species I would pick for this pack are:
1: Either Inostrancevia, An extinct genus of large carnivorous therapsids who lived during the Late Permian in what is now European Russia and South Africa. The first known fossils of this gorgonopsian were discovered in the Northern Dvina, where two almost complete skeletons were exhumed. Inostrancevia is the biggest known gorgonopsian, the largest fossil specimens indicating an estimated size between 3 and 3.5 meters (9.8-11 feet) long.
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2: Scutosaurus, An extinct genus of pareiasaur parareptiles. Its genus name, which means shield lizard, refers to large plates of armor scattered across its body. Fossils have been found in the Sokolki Assemblage Zone of the Malokinelskaya Formation in European Russia, close to the Ural Mountains, dating to the late Permian (Lopingian) between 264 and 252 million years ago. It grew to be about 2.5–3 meters (8 – 9 feet) in length and weighing up to 1,160 kilograms (2,560 lb.).
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3: Either Edaphosaurus, A genus of extinct edaphosaurid synapsids that lived in what is now North America and Europe around 303.4 to 272.5 million years ago,[1] during the Late Carboniferous to Early Permian. Edaphosaurus is important as one of the earliest-known, large, plant-eating (herbivorous), amniote tetrapods (four-legged land-living vertebrates). It grew to be around 0.5 to 3.5 meters (1.6 to 11.5 ft.) in length and weighed over 300 kilograms (660 lb.). Its genus name means pavement lizard, a reference to the "dental pavement" on both the upper and lower jaws, which is derived from the Greek edaphos έδαφος ("ground"; also "pavement") and σαῦρος (sauros) ("lizard").
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Gordodon, An extinct genus of non-mammalian synapsid that lived during the Early Permian of what is now Otero County, New Mexico. It grew to be around 1 meters (3 ft.) in length excluding the tail and 34 kilograms (75 lb.) in weight. The unique jaws and teeth of Gordodon amongst early synapsids suggest that it was one of the first herbivorous tetrapods to have specialized in selectively feeding on high nutrient, low-fiber plant fructifications (seeds and fruit-like structures). The generic name is from the Spanish word "gordo", meaning "fat", and the Ancient Greek suffix "-odon" to mean "fat tooth", referring to its characteristically large front teeth. The name is also a play on "Alamogordo", the name of the city close to where the fossil was discovered. The specific name kraineri was chosen in honour of Karl Krainer, a geologist of the University of Innsbruck in recognition of his extensive work on paleontology and geology in New Mexico. If it gets added, the developers should require it to have a lot fruit vegetation in its enclosure.
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4: One of the species bellow as the last option:
Tapinocephalus, A large, herbivorous dinocephalian that lived during the Middle Permian Period in the South African Karoo. They could grow over 3 meters (10 feet) in length and massed around 1.5 to 2 tons (3,300 to 4,400 lb.). They are considered to be one of the largest animals alive during the time they lived; and it is believed they engaged in head butting either for mates and or to control territory, kind of like the Pachycephalosaurs. Its name means humble head.
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Biarmosuchus, An extinct genus of biarmosuchian therapsids that lived around 267 mya during the Middle Permian period. It grew to be around the size of a large dog, around 1.5–2 meters (4.9-6.5 feet) in length. It was named for Bjarmaland, the name for the White Sea region in Old Norse literature.
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Estemmenosuchus, A large, early omnivorous therapsid that lived during the middle part of the Middle Permian around 267 million years ago in Russia. They could grow to around 3 meters (10 feet) long. They have distinctive horn-like structures that are thought to have been used for display. Many remains from different individuals were found together. Its name means crowned crocodile in Greek.
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Tiarajudens, An extinct genus of saber-toothed herbivorous anomodonts which lived during the Middle Permian period (Capitanian stage) in what is now Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It grew to be around the size of a wild boar. The most prominent features of Tiarajudens are its two large saber-like canine teeth. These teeth are unlike the tusks of dicynodonts. It is one of the earliest therapsids to have a heterodont dentition. Its name means Tiaraju tooth, which is a reference to Sepé Tiaraju, an indigenous Guaraní leader in the Jesuit reduction mission of São Luiz Gonzaga who led the fight against the Portuguese and Spanish colonial powers in the Guarani War.
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Your frirst 3 are clear top Contenders for a Permian Pack !
1.) Inostrancevia
2.) Scutosaurus
3.) Edaphosaurus

But please let the first " Sabertooth" (Inostrancevia) look like a Sabertoooth and give it not this Hypolook...lol. !
My 4.) Animal would be Prionosuchus ( 9m Long )or Mesosaurus ( 1m Long )
 
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Your first 3 are clear top Contenders for a Permian Pack !
1.) Inostrancevia
2.) Scutosaurus
3.) Edaphosaurus

But please let the first " Saber tooth" (Inostrancevia) look like a Saber tooth and give it not this Hypolook...lol. !
My 4.) Animal would be Prionosuchus ( 9m Long )or Mesosaurus ( 1m Long )
I changed Inostrancevia photo so that it shows its saber teeth. To be honest, I was not sure what to pick for the fourth animal, which is why I listed four animals I thought could be unique additions to the game as possible options on the list I made.
 
Your frirst 3 are clear top Contenders for a Permian Pack !
1.) Inostrancevia
2.) Scutosaurus
3.) Edaphosaurus

But please let the first " Sabertooth" (Inostrancevia) look like a Sabertoooth and give it not this Hypolook...lol. !
My 4.) Animal would be Prionosuchus ( 9m Long )or Mesosaurus ( 1m Long )
Would be a little disappointed if they went with Edaphosaurus... if only because its basically a herbivorous Dimetrodon. My list would look more like:

::Generic Permian Pack::
  • Inostrancevia
  • Scutosaurus
  • Estemmenosuchus
  • Helicoprion
 
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