Actually the situation is not as bad as it seems. Sure, there are combat loggers, but it's not like 9 out of 10 players will combat log. I did some PvP lately and from my experience most players are not combat logging. It's more like 9 out of 10 players will stay in the instance, which positivley surprised me.
Pirates combat logging in open
- Thread starter Globusdiablo
- Start date
Actually the situation is not as bad as it seems. Sure, there are combat loggers, but it's not like 9 out of 10 players will combat log. I did some PvP lately and from my experience most players are not combat logging. It's more like 9 out of 10 players will stay in the instance, which positivley surprised me.
Dark Souls 2 bans players to Offline mode for a specific time if they combat log from online play. Elite: Dangerous could do that as well... Wait... No they couldn't.... 
Nothing about pirates. Guyz doing combat-logging are not gamers, they are scammers and bad losers : Report them.
Yes, a game that makes you wait 5 mins or plan ahead before you want to quit. Great idea champ, frontier should snap you right up
Also I can count on 1 hand the number of players who have combat logged against me in the last 3 months. It's not a big a problem as people make out. Also try to relax, it's just a game, go out and have some fun
Also I can count on 1 hand the number of players who have combat logged against me in the last 3 months. It's not a big a problem as people make out. Also try to relax, it's just a game, go out and have some fun
Last edited:
The game is P2P, the session are hosted by the peers themselves. If one of them quits, their session is de facto terminated and there is nobody you can trust with hosting it in their stead to keep them in the game. Most respectable MMOs go around this by hosting virtually everything on a master (well, a farm of) server which they 100% trust, but FD decided to cut corner and trust everybody with their own little bubble in which they can do whatever they please with the exception of a few things covered by the transactions server. That's the price you pay for a one-time purchase without monthly fees. You can't make a competitive open world game on that model because people will simply exploit the hell out of it and you can do nothing but put stop gap solution in place with no real fix, because the issue is a fundamental one. All the solutions FD will put in place will have flaws easily exploited, because they will either rely on the clients themselves sending telemetry data to spy on themselves and others, data which you can both stop from being sent or even fake to protect yourself or lie about other users, or be intrusive anti-cheat solutions like Punkbuster, which can only protect against old known cheats and take away the users right to have total control over his computer and have been known to spy on users regarding things not related to the game.
FD certainly shot themselves in the foot going for a P2P design instead of the tried and tested solution of a server farm; if it's good enough for the biggest MMO's in gaming history, it should certainly have been good enough for FD.
But, to clarify, I know the game is P2P but this doesn't automatically stop one from telling the clients how to behave. They still need to communicate with the server; even if they do act as their own mini-servers for instancing.
My comment implied ( or, I thought it did,
) that some control would have to be moved over to the server. The server doesn't need to control everything, only the session states. The client talks to the server regularly anyway, therefore the client could send through a "I'm still alive" flag with every (or every other) packet (if it doesn't already). If the server doesn't receive that notification from the client, then the server flags that connection in an "idle" state; during this state the server notifies the other clients in the instance; which in turn forces the clients still connected to simply show a ship floating in space, perhaps with a "disconnected" icon above it. AI stop targeting it; but players can still attack if they want. During this idle state, the server logs the state of the ship (health etc). If the ship is destroyed, then the next time the client logs in, the server sends that packet through with the updated ship information which the client then knows what to do with. I can imagine the cries of frustration when the combat logging chickens log back in with a smug look on their face only to find a "Your ship was destroyed" message waiting for them.
Granted this won't completely remove the problem and neither is it fool-proof, but it will at the least (I hope) make the concept of combat logging less inviting.
Last edited:
Dark Souls 2 bans players to Offline mode for a specific time if they combat log from online play. Elite: Dangerous could do that as well... Wait... No they couldn't....
Could ban you to Solo mode though. That would work.
If you had read the thread you are posting in, you would know why this is not possible.
Now that would be Elite: Dangerous.
Thankfully there would still be group and solo for all the PvE softies... (like me
) I prefer my game time infused with less punks. 
I agree. The lag is a more serious issue than people trying to save a little bit of coin.
They already do that for certain reasons.
My comment implied ( or, I thought it did,
You're right, after rereading carefuly it is much clearer. My bad for reading the forums while at work!
As for your suggestion, I can't see anything wrong with it, apart from it requiring FD to dedicate some computing power to it... and I guess that's the culprit.
What? I haven't heard or read anything about this. Please elaborate.
actually mass lock is broken.
from your text, i get you are not aware, but mass lock only kick in if you try to SC out, not if you jump out.
would you have selected another system, no mass lock.
this is bad design imao, but since FD won't fix it, let's use it.
anyhow, props to you for having honor, and to the other cmdrs for being fair play
Last edited:
People have been banned for using cheat scripts, i.e. "infinite ammo" "infinite health" "log off when about to die" I think it's only 1 or 2 so far, but I doubt that FD would publish the figures. There ARE still issues of course, in that a banned-to-solo player could use the 2000Ly jump hack to mess up exploration data.
Crikey. What a mess. Thanks for sharing.
It's the FD equivalent of the Naughty Step, it won't really be mentioned here so much, more likely to be found in the ED Reddit.
Ok. Thanks for enlightening me.
One logging pirate =/= all pirates. More simple math fun later!