Planet Zoo 2 Keep/Not Keep Game

[Cynogale bennettii II]

Keep

• Striped hyena
• Chinese pangolin
• African crested porcupine
• Red ruffed lemur
• Malayan tapir
• Giant forest scorpion
• Mexican redknee tarantula
• Spectacled caiman
• Dhole
• Red-crowned crane

Delete

• Tamworth pig
• Hill Radnor sheep
• Alpine goat
• Sussex chicken
• American standard donkey
• Alpaca
• Puff adder
• Titan beetle
• Himalayan brown bear
• Wild water buffalo

Add

• Yellow-throated marten
• Ocellated turkey
• De Brazza's guenon
• Prevost's squirrel
• Giant Asian pond turtle
• Black-capped squirrel monkey
• Southern ground hornbill
• Victoria crowned pigeon
• Long-nosed potoroo
• Goliath heron

 

[NZFanatic]

They've already developed all the animals

Let's hope they redevelop them.

Using what we have as a core is fine, but if they mass produce them the same way they'll just end up with more frustration. E.g. the orangutan, the okapi, the lion/wolf/bears, even later animals like the highland cattle, the donkey, the African wild ass.

 

[USzoofan42]

Everyone deleting the Wisent for why? It’s one of the most gorgeous models we have, a great addition for a zoo game, and absolutely essential for Europe’s roster.

I think it's better as a DLC animal.

 

[USzoofan42]

Keep:
Dhole
Pronghorn
Blue Penguin
Plains Zebra
Giant Anteater
Coquerel's Sifaka
Red Ruffed Lemur
Tasmainian Devil
Wolverine
African Wild Ass

Remove:
Himalayan Brown Bear
Formosian Black Bear
Tamworth Pig
Alpine Goat
Hill Radnor Sheep
European Badger
African Leopard
Bengal Tiger
Goliath Frog
Saiga

Add:
American Black Bear
Atlantic Puffin
Grevy's Zebra
Bush Dog
Mexican Spider Monkey
White Nosed Coati
Matchies's Tree Kangaroo
Greater Rhea
Patagonian Mara
Allen's Swamp Monkey

 

[stonegarden]

Everyone deleting the Wisent for why? It’s one of the most gorgeous models we have, a great addition for a zoo game, and absolutely essential for Europe’s roster.

Because European species are "boring". Not the ones from North America! Those cannot be missed at any price. And as this community is under the influence of a large group of North American players, the NA species will remain, just as it was in PZ 1 since the launch of the game. Lots of species from NA and none clearly assigned to Europe. We cannot have Grizzly and European brown bear together right at the launch of PZ 2. One of the species becomes a clone. The same with Bison and Wisent.

 

[Angeł]

Because European species are "boring". Not the ones from North America! Those cannot be missed at any price. And as this community is under the influence of a large group of North American players, the NA species will remain, just as it was in PZ 1 since the launch of the game. Lots of species from NA and none clearly assigned to Europe. We cannot have Grizzly and European brown bear together right at the launch of PZ 2. One of the species becomes a clone. The same with Bison and Wisent.

all the more reason to have them in the base game.
If we get the EBB or Wisent as DLC animals, people will complain that they are clones. If we get them all in the base game, everyone’s happy.

 

[TheYeti]

Dump:

1. Himalayan Brown Bear
2. Arctic Wolf
3. Black Wildebeest
4. Springbok
5. Saiga
6. Formosan Black Bear
7. Dingo
8. Dall Sheep
9. Nile Monitor
10. Nyala

Keep:

1. Hamadryas Baboon
2. Capybara
3. Asian Water Monitor
4. African Penguin
5. Asian Small-Clawed Otter
6. California Sea Lion
7. Mute Swan
8. Komodo Dragon
9. Emu
10. Takin

Add:

1. Great White Pelican
2. South-American Coati
3. Patagonian Mara
4. Greater Rhea
5. White-Faced Saki
6. Mantled Guereza
7. Grey Crowned Crane
8. Helmeted Guineafowl
9. Victoria's Crowned Pigeon
10. Sulawesi Crested Macaque

 

[J-Double U]

I hope they treat the animal roster like they did the dinosaur/extinct reptile roster for JWE when JWE2 came out.

All existing animals currently in PZ1 (regardless of whether they are base game or DLC) form the base game roster for PZ2, with some new additions (habitat mammals, reptiles & birds, flying birds and small/medium fish for tanks). Some of the animals from PZ1 would get a much-needed visual and rig makeover (the orangutan brachiating on smaller pieces immediately springs to mind) and the exhibit animals would get a complete re-tool for an improved exhibit system which allows for more realistic exhibit sizes instead of just giant glass boxes. Sure, some animals in the game aren't very common or even present in zoos (Proboscis Monkey and Saiga Antelope, for example), and some animals don't resonate with the players very much but they might as well keep them in the game since they've already created the animations, textures, models, and sounds, and to give players as much choice as possible to build the zoo that they want to build.

I'd much rather the DLCs and updates for PZ2 be filled with brand-new animals rather than re-releases of animals in PZ1. I'm not too bothered by "clones". For example, the Bison and the Wisent aren't clones because they look distinct enough in the game and they have their own sets of animations that play out as behaviours. The same would be if we actually get tamarins and marmosets in PZ2. Behaviourally they would be very similar and Frontier could get away with exact copies of the rig and animations, but they would be visually different from each other so I'd be absolutely fine with that. Hell, I'd buy a Tamarin & Marmoset DLC, as long as we have them in the game and they are as true to life as possible, that's fine by me. Whilst I wouldn't be a fan of a Zebra DLC, for example, I'm not opposed to having the Plains Zebra from PZ1 and then maybe Grevy's Zebra in a DLC. Though the 2 would look similar in-game, and probably behave mostly similarly, there are size differences, differences in conservation status and differences in some behaviours such as harems and herds.

 

[Narwhaler]

Sounds like a fun game

Keep

• Przewalski's horse
• Capybara
• Mute swan
• Giant otter
• Spurred tortoise
• Red river hog
• Eurasian lynx
• Emu
• Giant anteater
• Kiwi

Dump
Can't really think of up to 10 but

• Skunk
• Alpaca
• Quokka
• HBB

Add

• Grey crowned crane
• Mountain hare
• Brown pelican
• Mallard
• Walrus
• Sea otter
• Reeve's muntjac
• Northern tamandua
• Patagonian mara
• Alpine marmot

 

[Fossa]

I hope they treat the animal roster like they did the dinosaur/extinct reptile roster for JWE when JWE2 came out.

All existing animals currently in PZ1 (regardless of whether they are base game or DLC) form the base game roster for PZ2, with some new additions (habitat mammals, reptiles & birds, flying birds and small/medium fish for tanks). Some of the animals from PZ1 would get a much-needed visual and rig makeover (the orangutan brachiating on smaller pieces immediately springs to mind) and the exhibit animals would get a complete re-tool for an improved exhibit system which allows for more realistic exhibit sizes instead of just giant glass boxes. Sure, some animals in the game aren't very common or even present in zoos (Proboscis Monkey and Saiga Antelope, for example), and some animals don't resonate with the players very much but they might as well keep them in the game since they've already created the animations, textures, models, and sounds, and to give players as much choice as possible to build the zoo that they want to build.

I'd much rather the DLCs and updates for PZ2 be filled with brand-new animals rather than re-releases of animals in PZ1. I'm not too bothered by "clones". For example, the Bison and the Wisent aren't clones because they look distinct enough in the game and they have their own sets of animations that play out as behaviours. The same would be if we actually get tamarins and marmosets in PZ2. Behaviourally they would be very similar and Frontier could get away with exact copies of the rig and animations, but they would be visually different from each other so I'd be absolutely fine with that. Hell, I'd buy a Tamarin & Marmoset DLC, as long as we have them in the game and they are as true to life as possible, that's fine by me. Whilst I wouldn't be a fan of a Zebra DLC, for example, I'm not opposed to having the Plains Zebra from PZ1 and then maybe Grevy's Zebra in a DLC. Though the 2 would look similar in-game, and probably behave mostly similarly, there are size differences, differences in conservation status and differences in some behaviours such as harems and herds.

I disagree with every thing being said here, if they use every animal from planet zoo 1 in pz 2 the graphics won’t improve at all, you could just add more dlc to pz1 then... I hated the switch from jwe1 to jwe2, so little changes in graphics.

I hate realistic zoo’s and realistic players that think this game is only meant for them to re-create their own boring local zoo, this game is sooo much more and animals like Saiga, Leopard Seal, Proboscis Monkey, Pronghorn and Shoebills have just as much rights to be there as all animals kept at realistic real world zoos, not all maps should be realistic...


And clones are cheap and I don’t like spending money on something a modder can create in one second and for free

They should do it like this: Every pack they release comes with 7 new animals, if there are clone animals in this pack they don’t add to the number, for example.


A pack is this:
1 : Waterbuck
2: Pygmy Hippo
3: Shoebill
4: Nile Crocodile
5: American Flamingo
6: American Beaver
7: Nile Monitor

We get some extra animal clones extra in this pack, some extra clone models for the flamingo (like 3 in total) and maybe some extra water based monitors and an European beaver model if that is a thing, don’t waste future dlc with these same animals...

 

[Mjmannella]

The graphics aren't what need improvement with PZ in my opinion. What we need is fun gameplay that gives you more than just building architecture.

 

[Marvinb]

I actually dont want the graphics (getting old animals to modern standard aside ofc) to improve. Its already a demanding game, and making it even more demanding would just cause people with lower end computers to not be able to play it.

 

[zom03]

Here's my hot takes...

Keep:

• Babirusa
• Southern White Rhino
• Siberian Tiger
• Gemsbok
• Jaguar
• Malayan Tapir
• American Buffalo
• Blue Wildebeest
• Llama
• Dromedary Camel

Delete Forever:

• Black Wildebeest
• African Spurred Tortoise
• Formosan Black Bear
• Sable Antelope
• Dall Sheep
• Red Fox
• Wisent
• Amur Leopard
• Tamworth Pig
• Asian Water Monitor

New for Base Game

• Sea Otter
• Secretary Bird
• Walrus
• Marabou Stork
• Emperor Tamarin
• Honey Badger
• Chinstrap Penguin
• Burrowing Owl
• Coconut Crab
• Shoebill Stork

 

[Fossa]

Here's my hot takes...

Keep:

• Babirusa
• Southern White Rhino
• Siberian Tiger
• Gemsbok
• Jaguar
• Malayan Tapir
• American Buffalo
• Blue Wildebeest
• Llama
• Dromedary Camel

Delete Forever:

• Black Wildebeest
• African Spurred Tortoise
• Formosan Black Bear
• Sable Antelope
• Dall Sheep
• Red Fox
• Wisent
• Amur Leopard
• Tamworth Pig
• Asian Water Monitor

New for Base Game

• Sea Otter
• Secretary Bird
• Walrus
• Marabou Stork
• Emperor Tamarin
• Honey Badger
• Chinstrap Penguin
• Burrowing Owl
• Coconut Crab
• Shoebill Stork

Why would I take this post seriously? Sable Antelope in delete? Yeah right, just to me off probably... No person on earth would keep Bonobo's which are clones of Chimps over a freaking unique antelope like the Sable, why would you delete it? Nyala is right there... it is insane.

 

[Britches]

Keep:

All cats. Why? Because I love cats. I don't care if they are clones or realistic or if there are "enough of them already". I just love cats and every one of them!

Delete:

None. Because I can't say, let's keep more cats when I don't let others keep their favorite animals.

Add:

More cats! x) And of course more other animals, including fully aquatic ones and birds.

 

[Angeł]

Why would I take this post seriously? Sable Antelope in delete? Yeah right, just to me off probably... No person on earth would keep Bonobo's which are clones of Chimps over a freaking unique antelope like the Sable, why would you delete it? Nyala is right there... it is insane.

Because it’s on your thread where you tasked is to ‘keep 10, remove 10, add 10’. So every answer is valid?
Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answers to!
Quit throwing your toys out the pram just because people don’t agree with your choices. Not many people do.
I for one don’t care about the Sable Antelope, as I’m sure a lot of people don’t. But will I be mad if it makes it in game again? No! I don’t care! Hopefully we can all get our favourites ingame for PZ2, and everyone’s happy.

 

[Fossa]

Going to be controversial here but people are allowed to disagree with you, I like the amur leopard but I am not freaking out because one person put it in the delete category on their list, its really not that serious its not like that single person is going to cause it to be deleted from a sequel, just chill man

It's not the first person to mention it. For some silly, wrong reason people dislike the Sable Antelope, and when I ask why, they just don't give any useful answers.

They probably just hate it because the Lion is their favorite animal and even those predators don't often attack Male Sable Antelopes and live.

 

[RabidOkapi]

It's not the first person to mention it. For some silly, wrong reason people dislike the Sable Antelope, and when I ask why, they just don't give any useful answers.

Posting this thread and then getting angry at opinions of others is quite the contradiction.

I, too, dislike the Sable. I have no reason whatsoever, but I have used it once in 10 zoos and quite frankly was uninspired compared to other options. My opinionated reasoning for why I do not like something cannot be "wrong." Just as your reasoning for liking it can't be wrong.

"Nobody with the right taste" is a wild statement for a thread on animal dislikes and likes.

People like different animals than you; crazy world.

 

[Fossa]

Posting this thread and then getting angry at opinions of others is quite the contradiction.

I, too, dislike the Sable. I have no reason whatsoever, but I have used it once in 10 zoos and quite frankly was uninspired compared to other options. My opinionated reasoning for why I do not like something cannot be "wrong." Just as your reasoning for liking it can't be wrong.

"Nobody with the right taste" is a wild statement for a thread on animal dislikes and likes.

People like different animals than you; crazy world.

Some opinions are just soooo annoying to me.

 

[RabidOkapi]

Some opinions are just soooo annoying to me.

Yeah, based on past interactions with you, I'd argue any opinion that is not yours is quite the conundrum for you to deal with.

You hate the Bonobo. I like chimpanzees more as well, but I see the draw of the Bonobo. Some love it for the following: 1. It's a less common variant of an ape so its more novel than a chimp. Building a zoo, chimps are almost an expectation. When someone has Bonobos I think "That's neat. I'm gonna make sure we stop by. 2. It was the last ape discovered so the mysteriousness of it may appeal to people. 3. The more matriarchal society and how they interact with another is unique. 4. They are considered more empathetic and less violent than traditional ape groups, so they are interesting to study. 5. Their method of movement is more bipedal, which combined with empathy makes them seems more human like at times compared to other apes.

You can't say it's wrong to like Bonobos or want them in game. Just like you can't say it's wrong for someone to have a negative opinion of the Sable in game.

You feel like must bring backs are Sable Antelope, Fossa, and the Pronghorn. I wouldn't be angry at all if all 3 were not in PZ 2. I'd happily trade them for say any New World Monkey, Blackbuck, and Grey Crowned Crane. Here is the thing: we are both right. because an opinion on what we like that is based on subjectivity, is, well, subjective.