Planet Zoo: Conservation Pack arriving 21 June 🌻

[NZFanatic]

we have already a perfectly identical Oryx, with the same behavior, the new one differs only in color. I would have preferred Wisent

I'm sorry, do you honestly not see the irony here?

The scimitar-horned oryx and the gemsbok are very different animals in shape and colour - to say otherwise tells me you need to look at both animals a lot more closely. Whereas the European bison is morphologically almost identical to the American bison. Your post basically says, "This reskin is a wasted slot, it should have been this even worse reskin."

I think I would have preferred the addax to the scimitar-horned oryx in any case, but I'd prefer either over another bison.

 

[abigenius]

we have already a perfectly identical Oryx, with the same behavior, the new one differs only in color

Mmmmm.... No. Both oryx are totally different species in fact, they are so different and it's a iconic animal of the conservation projects, one live in the North Africa ( a place with almost any animals in the game) and the other live in south Africa

Meanwhile the European bison it's too similar to the American version, yes, they have their differences but that animal would be a "perfectly identical bison"

 

[ElectricMonk]

. Unfortunately, the pursuit of exoticism predominates in preferences here, although many animals in the northern hemisphere, which make up the predominant species in the zoos we visit, are still missing from the game. North America and Europe probably have the most zoos in the world, many of which are small and cannot afford a wide variety of exotic animals, so the dominant species are those of local wildlife. It's just a personal opinion.

Many zoos, however, are not in Europe or North America. The open range zoo nearest me (Melbourne, Australia) has Oryx but not Wissent. What counts as ‘exotic’, obviously depends on where in the world you are. Even within that context, zoos tend to have exotic animals from similar climates as those where they’re located. I don’t know, but would be surprised if zoos in the warmer areas of the USA or even Europe are more likely to have Wissent than oryx.

 

[stonegarden]

I'm sorry, do you honestly not see the irony here?

The scimitar-horned oryx and the gemsbok are very different animals in shape and colour - to say otherwise tells me you need to look at both animals a lot more closely. Whereas the European bison is morphologically almost identical to the American bison. Your post basically says, "This reskin is a wasted slot, it should have been this even worse reskin."

I think I would have preferred the addax to the scimitar-horned oryx in any case, but I'd prefer either over another bison.

I never thought we had so many zoologists here. That's ironic! If you don't notice the big differences between Wisent and Bison, be it as experts say. I actually saw both Wisent and Bison. The difference is very big. Have you seen a real Wisent? Regarding the two species of Oryx, the anatomical differences are not noticeable, at least in appearance, less the color. That they belong to different areas, this is obvious, being two different species. It is a very exotic species and this fascinates some, it is true. The irony starts from the perspective you look at.
Here is a short and remarkable history of the attempt to save Wisent, a huge conservation effort, even in the very modern era was in great danger of extinction, maybe that's why they can not be seen in zoos outside Europe: https://blog.nature.org/science/2017/08/22/remarkable-story-how-bison-returned-europe/

 

[SalamAnders]

Meanwhile the leopard walks by whistling an innocent melody, hoping nobody will notice its genus is already strongly represented in the game

 

[peafowl]

Meanwhile the leopard walks by whistling an innocent melody, hoping nobody will notice it's genus is already strongly represented in the game

shhhh

 

[NZFanatic]

I never thought we had so many zoologists here. That's ironic! If you don't notice the big differences between Wisent and Bison, be it as experts say. I actually saw both Wisent and Bison. The difference is very big. Have you seen a real Wisent? Regarding the two species of Oryx, the anatomical differences are not noticeable, at least in appearance, less the color. That they belong to different areas, this is obvious, being two different species. It is a very exotic species and this fascinates some, it is true. The irony starts from the perspective you look at.
Here is a short and remarkable history of the attempt to save Wisent, a huge conservation effort, even in the very modern era was in great danger of extinction, maybe that's why they can not be seen in zoos outside Europe: https://blog.nature.org/science/2017/08/22/remarkable-story-how-bison-returned-europe/

Are you serious?

You think the differences between these:

Are more striking than these:

And that's being generous, I looked for the most 'different' wisent I could.

 

[NZFanatic]

Meanwhile the leopard walks by whistling an innocent melody, hoping nobody will notice its genus is already strongly represented in the game

Representation isn't in question here. Stonegarden would have us believe that a wisent would be a worthier contender than the scimitar-horned oryx because the oryx is basically identical to the gemsbok.

 

[stonegarden]

Are you serious?

You think the differences between these:
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Are more striking than these:
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And that's being generous, I looked for the most 'different' wisent I could.

Do you really see in reality both species, Wisent and Bison? Because I did. Not only în the photos that can be tricky. Than you can say if they are different or not în appereance!
I just said that wisent would have been a better candidate than the oryx because it has a much more interesting history of conservation, directly related to what we call western civilization. For a minimum information, read the article that I linked above.

 

[NZFanatic]

Do you really see in reality both species, Wisent and Bison? Because I did. Not only în the photos that can be tricky. Than you can say if they are different or not în appereance!
I just said that wisent would have been a better candidate than the oryx because it has a much more interesting history of conservation, directly related to what we call western civilization. For a minimum information, read the article that I linked above.

Their conservation history was never in question, nor do I need education on it.

Your initial post was going on about the oryx being identical to the gemsbok, which is patently false. You presented the wisent as a better choice, even though it is undeniably more of a reskin than the oryx is.

 

[ElectricMonk]

, maybe that's why they can not be seen in zoos outside Europe:

leaving aside the (mostly subjective) question of whether wisent differ more from bison than oryx do from gemsbok, your comment above noting that they’re not seen in zoos outside Europe rather undermines your argument that the Wissent should be included because it’s more common (or less ‘exotic’) doesn’t it? Most zoos, after all are NOT in Europe.

 

[yoav_r]

For me, and it's just a personal opinion, the Oryx is a wasted slot because we have already a perfectly identical Oryx, with the same behavior, the new one differs only in color. I would have preferred Wisent who has an equally extraordinary conservationist history (was almost extinct and even now their number is not too large, although efforts are being made to introduce small groups in different areas) and is very different from Bison in appearance, behavior and the complex environment in which he lives. Unfortunately, the pursuit of exoticism predominates in preferences here, although many animals in the northern hemisphere, which make up the predominant species in the zoos we visit, are still missing from the game. North America and Europe probably have the most zoos in the world, many of which are small and cannot afford a wide variety of exotic animals, so the dominant species are those of local wildlife. It's just a personal opinion.
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You: the two oryx species are too similar

Also you: I'd like a wisent

 

[nutrit]

All of us have their own preferences. I am so happy we finally got the Scimitar oryx it was one of my most requested species. Looking at the popularity of the antelope species in zoo’s around the world and their diversity I still don’t think we have enough of them.

There are so many amazing antelopes that I think we could still use - at least 5 more of them.
But now we’ve received Scimitar oryx so the one that I think is still crucial to the roster is Addax. We lack desert species and Addax tick all the boxes: it’s critically endangered, distinct, beautiful and from desert/shrubland environment - biome that is still neglected in the roster.

I hope it will come with very anticipated and often mentioned Desert / Middle East animal pack. It would be easy to make and would enhance the game in my opinion.

Other desert species that could be included in that pack are: Dromedary, Hamadryas baboon, Caracal, Striped hyena, critically endangered Somali wild donkey, Secretary bird and Honey badger.

 

[yoav_r]

Do you really see in reality both species, Wisent and Bison? Because I did. Not only în the photos that can be tricky. Than you can say if they are different or not în appereance!
I just said that wisent would have been a better candidate than the oryx because it has a much more interesting history of conservation, directly related to what we call western civilization. For a minimum information, read the article that I linked above.

The Oryx actually has a more important "story", in it's being extinct in the wild. This is the first extinct in the wild animal in the game, which I believe also gave it edge over the addax and any other endangered ungulate.

If they wanted a "best conservation story", I'd argue the arabian oryx takes the crown, as it's the first species that went from extinct in the wild, all the way up to vulnerable. But the arabian oryx is actually somewhat similar to the Gemsbok, so I can see why it wasn't chosen.

 

[nutrit]

The Oryx actually has a more important "story", in it's being extinct in the wild. This is the first extinct in the wild animal in the game, which I believe also gave it edge over the addax and any other endangered ungulate.

If they wanted a "best conservation story", I'd argue the arabian oryx takes the crown, as it's the first species that went from extinct in the wild, all the way up to vulnerable. But the arabian oryx is actually somewhat similar to the Gemsbok, so I can see why it wasn't chosen.

Arabian oryx would be the perfect anniversary animal

 

[NZFanatic]

But now we’ve received Scimitar oryx so the one that I think is still crucial to the roster is Addax.

Totally agree. The addax is perhaps my most wanted antelope species (Addax, Blackbuck, then the Common Waterbuck).

 

[nutrit]

Totally agree. The addax is perhaps my most wanted antelope species (Addax, Blackbuck, then the Common Waterbuck).

Imagine having both - Scimitars and Addax in the game They complement each other so beautifully

 

[Kamal]

I really hope that the Greater Kudu will make it into the game one day, its my number one in my wish list, and its such a majestic creature. They have a very unique horns shape. Plus they are very common in zoos.

 

[Doran]

If they wanted a "best conservation story", I'd argue the arabian oryx takes the crown, as it's the first species that went from extinct in the wild, all the way up to vulnerable. But the arabian oryx is actually somewhat similar to the Gemsbok, so I can see why it wasn't chosen.

Actually wisent got extcint in the wild and came back into wild way before arabian oryx became extcint. His story is so old it dates both world wars. Wisent definitely takes crown in this regard. One of the first species in european breeding programmes.

 

[markun]

I am happy with the oryx. It is true that the wisent has a similar conservation story and it is also an animal I would like.

I actually think wisent and bison are more different than some people give them credit for but I wouldn’t use the argument that the oryx and the gemsbok are more similar as they are quite different.