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Doran

Doran
I appreciate your best efforts to defend knuckle walking siamang, but they just dont do that. What concerns me the most is fact, that this climbing frame is also traversable area for smaller animals. Unless its part of hilariously bad animation there is possibility siamangs are quadrupedal in game, because animals in game are using their walk animation also on climbing structures. Maybe i could this buy this version (black image), but animals in planet zoo arent that complex to grab objects. They just casually walk on this.

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I just want to raise awareness.
There is no more need for your feedback, becaus its pointless looking for answer for this. Lets just hope its bad animation, photo or something. I wonder whats the purpose of this animation tho.
 

Ozian

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Doran said:
I appreciate your best efforts to defend knuckle walking siamang, but they just dont do that. What concerns me the most is fact, that this climbing frame is also traversable area for smaller animals. Unless its part of hilariously bad animation there is possibility siamangs are quadrupedal in game, because animals in game are using their walk animation also on climbing structures. Maybe i could this buy this version (black image), but animals in planet zoo arent that complex to grab objects. They just casually walk on this.

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I just want to raise awareness.
There is no more need for your feedback, becaus its pointless looking for answer for this. Lets just hope its bad animation, photo or something. I wonder whats the purpose of this animation tho.
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Having the looked again, in the attached picture from the initial announcement, they seem to be walking upright on the climbing frame. I’m wondering if, in the new pic, they are still walking upright and it’s just the way their arms are positioned or swinging when the screenshot was taken (I.e. they are not actually putting weight on or leaning on the climbing frame with their knuckles - it’s just a result of the picture angle).

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Doran

Doran
Doran said:
There is no more need for your feedback, becaus its pointless looking for answer for this. Lets just hope its bad animation, photo or something. I wonder whats the purpose of this animation tho.
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Perhaps I would care to elaborate further, but since its only 2 days to find out ill wait and see it. Up to this point i got not single good answer and bunch of very hilarious ones (how do you defend clearly visable knucle-walking gibbon?). At this point I wonder what this siamang in background is doing, but its certain its doing something it shouldnt supposed to do.
 

raf8655

raf8655
Doran said:
I appreciate your best efforts to defend knuckle walking siamang, but they just dont do that. What concerns me the most is fact, that this climbing frame is also traversable area for smaller animals. Unless its part of hilariously bad animation there is possibility siamangs are quadrupedal in game, because animals in game are using their walk animation also on climbing structures. Maybe i could this buy this version (black image), but animals in planet zoo arent that complex to grab objects. They just casually walk on this.

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I just want to raise awareness.
There is no more need for your feedback, becaus its pointless looking for answer for this. Lets just hope its bad animation, photo or something. I wonder whats the purpose of this animation tho.
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But I just want to increase YOUR awareness...

There is no need for your feedback anymore, because there is no point in looking for an answer for it!

You are creating a thought out of thin air, since this is not about evaluating something visual that can be clearly deduced from a screen (such as the length of the hair, the size of an arm, the shape of an eye, etc.), you you are making a hypothesis on a movement, on a mechanic, which cannot be evaluated from a screen, this thing can only be evaluated in-game, so it is useless to continue, we will see it when the game is released, only then can you be sure than what you guess...but until then you can't say "We don't need your feedback anymore, because there's no point looking for an answer for this!"
 

Markiz

Markiz
I mean, I have an answer, and it's been brought up already

If Siamang ends up knuckle walking it's because it retained some of the Chimp animations because it's using that rig.

And again if that's the case I believe enough has already been done to make Siamang unique, and to make Siamang - Siamang that I wouldn't have problem with that
 
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Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
NZFanatic said:
It's weird that the word 'primate' is just 'monkey' in some languages.
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That's not exactly how it is. We have the word "Primaten", but they are still "Affen" = monkeys in german. So "monkey" is the umbrella term for any monkey, primate , gibbon, etc. species. The word that would be used in a picture book.
Animal nerds would go with the groups name, like "Menschenaffen" , "Neuweeltaffen" (new world monkeys), "Altweltlaffen (old world monkeys) etc.
The whole taxonomy english speakers use are really confusing for us, I even have trouble finding a good research source to help me what term to use when, honestly. That's why most german speakers here would just go with "monkey", because in our language that at least is never wrong ;) I know it is in english, but for us it's weird that you guys do not have an umbrella term.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Swjosdotschka said:
That's not exactly how it is. We have the word "Primaten", but they are still "Affen" = monkeys in german. So "monkey" is the umbrella term for any monkey, primate , gibbon, etc. species. The word that would be used in a picture book.
Animal nerds would go with the groups name, like "Menschenaffen" , "Neuweeltaffen" (new world monkeys), "Altweltlaffen (old world monkeys) etc.
The whole taxonomy english speakers use are really confusing for us, I even have trouble finding a good research source to help me what term to use when, honestly. That's why most german speakers here would just go with "monkey", because in our language that at least is never wrong ;) I know it is in english, but for us it's weird that you guys do not have an umbrella term.
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I mean, I guess monkey would be the term, since a lotta people use that word for apes and lemurs as well.
In my case I always was an animal nerd, so I knew the correct terms because of all I read, but equally confusing is when we use the term ape for actual monkeys, like the Barbary ape.

I dunno, I'm just gonna stick with primates. It's easier for me


Edit: you know, I'm trying to think, but does Spanish have a word for ape? I know "mono" means monkey and some have used that for apes, but is there an actual word for ape?
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
KönigDerKaffeebohnen said:
I like the german way, if you talk about all monkeys, apes, lemures and stuff, you got Primaten.
If your talking about lemures and relstives its half monkeys (Halb Affen).
If you mean monkeys, its monkeys (Affen).
And Apes are Human Monkeys (Menschenaffen).
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Isn't "Halbaffen" outdated? I never hear anyone use that term anymore.
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

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Swjosdotschka said:
Isn't "Halbaffen" outdated? I never hear anyone use that term anymore.
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Its not that its outdated, just not really needed in casual speech.
If you mean lemurs, you just call them Lemuren, same for the other groups like Loris or Tarsiers.
Only rarly the whole group gets adressed, making the word rather uncommon in actual use.
But whats outdated is Halbaffen as a taxonomic group.
Thats debunked
 

KellyL

KellyL
KönigDerKaffeebohnen said:
I like the german way, if you talk about all monkeys, apes, lemures and stuff, you got Primaten.
If your talking about lemures and relstives its half monkeys (Halb Affen).
If you mean monkeys, its monkeys (Affen).
And Apes are Human Monkeys (Menschenaffen).
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There is also a small dog breed called Affenpinscher because of its (sort of) monkey-ish facial expression. 😊
 

Aramar

Aramar
Swjosdotschka said:
That's not exactly how it is. We have the word "Primaten", but they are still "Affen" = monkeys in german. So "monkey" is the umbrella term for any monkey, primate , gibbon, etc. species. The word that would be used in a picture book.
Animal nerds would go with the groups name, like "Menschenaffen" , "Neuweeltaffen" (new world monkeys), "Altweltlaffen (old world monkeys) etc.
The whole taxonomy english speakers use are really confusing for us, I even have trouble finding a good research source to help me what term to use when, honestly. That's why most german speakers here would just go with "monkey", because in our language that at least is never wrong ;) I know it is in english, but for us it's weird that you guys do not have an umbrella term.
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Swjosdotschka said:
That's not exactly how it is. We have the word "Primaten", but they are still "Affen" = monkeys in german. So "monkey" is the umbrella term for any monkey, primate , gibbon, etc. species. The word that would be used in a picture book.
Animal nerds would go with the groups name, like "Menschenaffen" , "Neuweeltaffen" (new world monkeys), "Altweltlaffen (old world monkeys) etc.
The whole taxonomy english speakers use are really confusing for us, I even have trouble finding a good research source to help me what term to use when, honestly. That's why most german speakers here would just go with "monkey", because in our language that at least is never wrong ;) I know it is in english, but for us it's weird that you guys do not have an umbrella term.
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It's the same in Spanish. 'Mono" means "monkey" but can be use for any kind of primates. Scientists have specific terms, but the general public just use "mono" for everything.
 
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